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Re: New to me Viking II
Dennis . . .
On Wed, 25 May 2022 06:43:29 -0700, "Dennis Shubitowski" <Shubitowski@...> wrote: Also, awesome hamfest pictures courtesy of Nick England. You will see all the Johnsons in the pics.Nice pics. I didn't see the Geiger counters from the civil defense era for sale this year, nor the fellow who sells Astron linear power supplies pulled from a commercial environment, inspected, repaired if needed, then sold as used. I got an Astron RS-70 (non-metered version) for $125 the last Hamvention back. It's VERY heavy!!! I also have an RM-35 that I have as a spare. My friend, who I paid for his admission, was very helpful to me. I run out of breath easily, and on a hot day I have trouble staying hydrated, but he was helpful with pulling my cage cart (looks like what some homeless people use to carry their stuff in) around the flea market. I picked up a Hickock tube tester on the way back to the car and he helped with that the last couple of hundred yards, too. I was surprised at the number of empty spaces in the flea market, despite the fact we didn't have one for two years. Maybe next year it will have more people selling. Now I go to the smaller 'fests and see what deals I can make. I was so worn out walking in the heat last Friday that I mainly focused on looking for tube testers. The one I got seems to work fine. I'd like to get information on how to calibrate these. I was told it was calibrated before the event, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, but I'd like to be able to keep it in calibration. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: New to me Viking II
Donald - This was the first Hamvention in two years post-COVID shutdowns. I talked with the bus drivers (we parked remote), and they were very happy with the turn out. They said the number of vendors were down, and it seemed like the commercial section was a bit less also, but they were very happy all things considered. They shut the town down for 4 days for Hamvention! All the schools are closed, and the whole town helps out. It is a huge and important event for their town.
Also, awesome hamfest pictures courtesy of Nick England. You will see all the Johnsons in the pics. -- Dennis NS8H |
Re: New to me Viking II
Here is the bottom of my Viking II. There was prior work done in there by a VERY good tech that I am happy with. The cap replacements are excellent with quality components. I plan to do the following:
1. The C9 oil cap looks dark around the terminals but is not leaking. Should this be replaced or are they normally OK if not leaking? 2. Replace the paper filter caps. 3.. Check/replace the 68K/1 W resistor in the buffer section. 4. Check/replace all resistors in the mic audio area and under the 6AU6. 5. Check/replace the 100 ohm resistors on the 807 tube and the 22 ohm plate resistors. 6. Clean the band switch as best able. -- Dennis NS8H |
Re: New to me Viking II
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBrian is correct, the Invader 2000 DID have a separate power supply. ?Also, it was engineered so that the 200 watt Invader could be converted to an Invader 2000. ?The faceplate changed out and the 200 watt PS slid out and went into the 2000 watt PS. ? The 2 x PL-175 (4-400) deck went where the 200 watt PS came out. ?? Rather slick. ? I miss my Invader 2000 and have been looking for another one for a few decades. ? 73 Jim N6OTQ? Sent from my quenched-gap spark transmitter.? On May 24, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Brian Pepperdine <busybrian@...> wrote:
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Re: New to me Viking II
Though in theory they are usually OK (from what I have been told)? I would advise to look underneath and ensure that the 'bathtub' oil-filled capacitor is not leaking at the seams. Usually do not, but the oil is likely corrosive to the chassis and anything it could leak into.. I suspect.
My original V II? I got for restoration (in progress) bathtub cap showed some gunk around the seam edge, but once I wiped it off nothing re-appeared afterwards. Given my sample of 2 Viking II units, 100% show some really nasty weird stuff added underneath - lazy and weird cap replacements.. odd layout.. bad workmanship (if you follow the D Labs and Mr. Carlson' Lab view of HOW NOT to do things!!!). So while I don't think the job is big (overall) there often can be found some stuff that just should GO away and be replaced. Seems? a lot of people take the fast, easy and lazy way... from what I have seen on the two that came here (and one of them came from a ham with over 50 years ham experience who had built LOT of stuff homebrew etc. that is fine from what I have seen, but he really don't take much critical notice of the bottom of his Viking II, IMHO). Brian VE3HI |
Re: New to me Viking II
I had an Invader (not Invader 2000). Its power supply was 'separate' within the chassis and could be removed (slid out) for servicing or whatever.. but it WAS contained in the cabinet.
The higher power 2000 version I think DID have a separate outboard PS, as with the 500. I suspect the venerable EFJ Johnson Desk Kilowatt was the same (given its weight from videos and info I have read it would HAVE to break down somewhat I suspect). Brian VE3HI |
Re: New to me Viking II
Dennis . . .
On Tue, 24 May 2022 06:44:31 -0700, "Dennis Shubitowski" <Shubitowski@...> wrote: . Did you ask what price they had on that [Viking 500] rig? I thought about it, but I did not want to hunt down or build a PS.Did it seem like there was a lot less people selling in the flea market this year at the Hamvention compared to a few years ago? I wonder if hamfests will continue to get smaller and smaller over time? No, I wasn't looking for anything heavy like the 500 to take home, even if it was free. I was having trouble just making it through the whole flea market area. I run out of breath easily and took lots of rests. Fortunately, I had paid for my friend's ticket to get in and he did most of the pulling of my cart that I put the few things I bought. The Hickock 800 tube tester wouldn't fit in the cart so I got that last, on the way to the car. So anything bigger than the Rangers have an outboard power supply, then? I was looking for some cheap Heathkit SB radios to fix up, but none were reasonably priced. I go to our local hamfest Saturday and we'll see what's there. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: New to me Viking II
As with a lot of our BA gear, the manuals don't seem to stay with the gear.
So more than normal we (me) go to BAMA? Boatanchor Manuals site and download. That is where my Viking II manual came from, as well as much other gear I have from EFJ and elsewhere. A great resource and the manual is fine to use. On the other hand, my other Viking II (awaiting restoration) is a V II? CDC Civil Defence version with full coverage of HF .. and it did come with the military manual that the CDC was intended to complement ... it is a major manual with huge schematic... but sadly it is all re-named components and naming using mil spec numbers... so comparison for use with normal manual is required if one wants to use the big schematic... possible and useful but a bit more work! |
Re: New to me Viking II
If you saw the PS for the Invader at Dayton, the 500 has one equally as big. The PS for the 500 is HUGE. The Johnson Five Hundred puts out 500-600W as a transmitter. That needs some power behind it. Did you ask what price they had on that rig? I thought about it, but I did not want to hunt down or build a PS.
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Re: New to me Viking II
Dennis,
I saw that one, too. I didn't know it needed an outboard supply. I guess if the supply wasn't separate, you'd need two people to lift it. Donald KX8K On Mon, 23 May 2022 18:40:34 -0700, "Dennis Shubitowski" <Shubitowski@...> wrote: There was a nice Johnson 500 with no power supply, ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: New to me Viking II
I paid $150 for the Viking II with the VFO. It was the only Viking II I saw. There was a nice Johnson 500 with no power supply, a GORGEOUS Invader (and a spare one under the table!) with the PS. I saw a Viking I and Ranger I and II.
I have not powered the Viking II on yet although the fine gentleman I bought it from said he powered it up last week after sitting for a year from last use by the SK. He only used it on 160M.? It is a bit dirty inside but otherwise cleans easily. I have not peeked underneath yet. -- Dennis NS8H |
Re: New to me Viking II
Dennis . . .
On Mon, 23 May 2022 13:01:20 -0400, "Dennis Shubitowski" <Shubitowski@...> wrote: I picked up a Viking II with the VFO at Hamvention this weekend.I believe I saw that early Saturday. If you don't mind my asking, what did you have to pay for it, and does it work or does it need restoration? I have a Johnson Ranger (1) and am eventually going to restore it. I paid $40 for it since I had no way of knowing if it worked or not. This past weekend I picked up a Hickock tube tester since I will be restoring old radios and some of those will have tubes that will need tested. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: New to me Viking II
Dennis . . .
On Mon, 23 May 2022 13:01:20 -0400, "Dennis Shubitowski" <Shubitowski@...> wrote: Is there not a Files section here? This would be a good place to have the manuals available.This is a basic group created after a certain date (I don't remember the cutoff), so it has no file storage. It would cost $220 per year to make it a premium group and have file storage. I don't see that happening. The basic groups created before then have file storage. Basic groups created NOW will be charged a per-member fee after it reaches 100 members. I created several vintage equipment amateur radio groups in haste just before that happened. This is one of those groups. Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: programming cable for the EF Johnson 5100 ES portables
Hello Pete, I hope that you are well. Thank you for this reference, Yes, it will be
finding the connector on the radio side. I looked at some of the mics available on ebay to see if it might work to use the connector on them, however they are missing some of the needed pins to make that cable. Thank you again - very much appreciated. All The Best & 73's (too) Charlie - N6JOA On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 7:22 PM Pete D <peten2mci@...> wrote:
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Re: programming cable for the EF Johnson 5100 ES portables
Charlie, I see the service manual is out on repeater builder web site. A quick look shows the RS-232 chip is built into the radio, so it shows that it's a straight through cable from the RS232 to the radio.? The hard part might be finding the connector on the radio side. Hope this helps. 73, Pete N2MCI On Sat, May 21, 2022, 8:23 PM Charlie Porter <caribou42w@...> wrote: Hello All, Looking for a programming cable for the EF Johnson 5100 ES portables. RFGuys seems to be out of business even though their website is still running. BlueMax 49ers "temporally" out of stock. Can't find any on eBay. Anyone have a schematic? Any other sources? |
programming cable for the EF Johnson 5100 ES portables
Hello All, Looking for a programming cable for the EF Johnson 5100 ES portables. RFGuys seems to be out of business even though their website is still running. BlueMax 49ers "temporally" out of stock. Can't find any on eBay. Anyone have a schematic? Any other sources?
-- Charlie - N6JOA |
Re: [Johnson] Need information on original Ranger
Chris . . .
On Sat, 21 May 2022 19:19:41 +0000 (UTC), Chris Farley <kc9ieq@...> wrote: In your manual, there is a diagram showing tube locations, which are then identified in the parts list. In the event your manual is missing pages, it may be found as the first PDF file here:I see most of the tubes match and are in the correct positions. I see differences with these tubes between the manual and what's actually in the radio: V9 & V10 are both 6CL6 in the radio I have instead of 1614's V11 is a 5V4GA in this radio instead of 5R4GY (both are rectifier tubes--OK?) V12 is a 6AX5 instead of a 6AX5GT (probably OK?) I won't get to look inside the VFO box until I get the radio back out but it's probably got what's supposed to be in there. I'll need to know if I need to change V9, 10, and 11 to match the manual. I am pretty sure a tube suffix like GT doesn't normally have any importance with backward compatibility but let me know if it does. I'll look at the other information and save it for future reference. I'll also get the weak resistor in the VFO box. Is it the 56 Ohm one or the 100K one in the schematic around the VFO tube? Donald KX8K ---------------------------------------------------- Some ham radio groups you may be interested in: /g/ICOM /g/Ham-Antennas /g/HamRadioHelp /g/Baofeng /g/CHIRP |
Re: Need information on original Ranger
Donald Hello
?? Perhaps we might be able to help, we are Ranger specialists ( we strip and rebuild them, both wiring versions. ).
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From: Donald Hellen <donhellen@...> To: johnson@... Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sat, May 21, 2022 12:07 pm Subject: [EFJohnson-Amateur-Radio] Need information on original Ranger Can someone point me to a tube layout diagram for the original Johnson Ranger,
please?
I think there was some tube substitution done before I became the new owner of
this. It is not a Ranger II. The schematic I found online has some tubes that do
not match the one I have. I believe there were changes made throughout the years
so what I see may be correct for the iteration of the radio.
One other thing is that there is a 6146B in it. Do these neutralize with the B
version of the 6146? I know some radios made in that era would not work well
with the B version of this tube.
I checked the various tubes that were in the radio and will need to order some.
Several have low output, two of them have good transconductance but on one or
more switch positions on the short checker they show a short. Some are OK for
all checks. I want to make sure the correct tubes are in the radio and also in
the correct locations. A tube layout picture or diagram would help.
I did not open the VFO compartment, so are there two tubes inside there,
including a VR tube that I don't otherwise see outside the VFO box?
I did a variac slow power up and nothing burned but it did not work. I forget
what I saw when following the directions in the manual to tune up but I want to
work on the tubes first, then see about making other changes or repairs.
If you have a good source of tubes I would like to add it to my notes and
browser bookmark.
Donald KX8K
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