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Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

I have a Busy Bee and 10 mm 3/8" is maximum for premium performance.

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On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 4:21?PM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers=[email protected]> wrote:
A 1/2" shank is about as big as you need on smaller mills. You may be able to use a 5/8 endmill with a 1/2" shank. I have a couple in my stash, but not sure the smaller mills can drive them adequately.?

Bill in OKC

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On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 02:34:49 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


I???? bought a set of MT2 Weldon shankendmills from All Industrial tool a few years back . I think it was a 5 or 8 piece set . WHen? traded that mill & holders for a nice Mig welder a couple weeks ago I had only used the 3/8 & 1/2 holders in 5 years . I don't think I would buy anything larger that 3/4 for these mills & that may be pushing the machine too far . I found like may users that ya lost some real-estate when using the end mill holders over using collet's . Being on the conserve my energy club I was not a huge fan of? raising & lowering the head a bunch so I pretty much stick with the collets .

animal

On 4/5/25 9:59 AM, Bill in OKC too via wrote:
You can use MT2 collets as tool holders. LMS only has them with a 3/8-16 thread but you should be abke to find them with the M10-1.5 thread on Amazon or ebay. Amazon has an MT2 to ER25 collet holder with metric threads, too. And you could make a 3/8-16 drawbar, too, if you can't find metric threaded MT2 collets.?

You can probably find MT2 endmill holders for Weldon-shank endmills. I got a few years ago for an Atlas mill. Or you can get MT2 blanks that you can make into endmill holders.?

Good luck, and have fun!

Bill in OKC

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Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:25:00 AM CDT, Doug Pfaff via <justicekrieger@...> wrote:


Bruce,

Little Machine Shop should have everything you could possibly need.

Doug?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 9:05, Bruce via
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce



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Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

A 1/2" shank is about as big as you need on smaller mills. You may be able to use a 5/8 endmill with a 1/2" shank. I have a couple in my stash, but not sure the smaller mills can drive them adequately.?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Saturday, April 5, 2025 at 02:34:49 PM CDT, mike allen <animal@...> wrote:


I???? bought a set of MT2 Weldon shankendmills from All Industrial tool a few years back . I think it was a 5 or 8 piece set . WHen? traded that mill & holders for a nice Mig welder a couple weeks ago I had only used the 3/8 & 1/2 holders in 5 years . I don't think I would buy anything larger that 3/4 for these mills & that may be pushing the machine too far . I found like may users that ya lost some real-estate when using the end mill holders over using collet's . Being on the conserve my energy club I was not a huge fan of? raising & lowering the head a bunch so I pretty much stick with the collets .

animal

On 4/5/25 9:59 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
You can use MT2 collets as tool holders. LMS only has them with a 3/8-16 thread but you should be abke to find them with the M10-1.5 thread on Amazon or ebay. Amazon has an MT2 to ER25 collet holder with metric threads, too. And you could make a 3/8-16 drawbar, too, if you can't find metric threaded MT2 collets.?

You can probably find MT2 endmill holders for Weldon-shank endmills. I got a few years ago for an Atlas mill. Or you can get MT2 blanks that you can make into endmill holders.?

Good luck, and have fun!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:25:00 AM CDT, Doug Pfaff via groups.io <justicekrieger@...> wrote:


Bruce,

Little Machine Shop should have everything you could possibly need.

Doug?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 9:05, Bruce via groups.io
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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I could get a different drill chuck adapter or ER-32 adapter, but as these work I won't spend the extra money on that.

On 05-Apr-25 23:12, mike allen wrote:

Ca a change the arbor on either to make a matched set ?

animal




Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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Ca a change the arbor on either to make a matched set ?

animal

On 4/5/25 1:05 PM, Jerry Durand via groups.io wrote:

I ordered my new mill with an ER-32 chuck and set of collets.? I also have a drill chuck for it and use that when I have to change bits a lot, like center finder to drill to countersink...

The mill itself has an MT-4 spindle.

Funny thing, the drill chuck and ER-32 chuck use different diameter drawbars.? Not a big problem, just odd to have two.

On 05-Apr-25 22:34, mike allen wrote:
Being on the conserve my energy club I was not a huge fan of? raising & lowering the head a bunch so I pretty much stick with the collets .


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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I ordered my new mill with an ER-32 chuck and set of collets.? I also have a drill chuck for it and use that when I have to change bits a lot, like center finder to drill to countersink...

The mill itself has an MT-4 spindle.

Funny thing, the drill chuck and ER-32 chuck use different diameter drawbars.? Not a big problem, just odd to have two.

On 05-Apr-25 22:34, mike allen wrote:

Being on the conserve my energy club I was not a huge fan of? raising & lowering the head a bunch so I pretty much stick with the collets .


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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I???? bought a set of MT2 Weldon shankendmills from All Industrial tool a few years back . I think it was a 5 or 8 piece set . WHen? traded that mill & holders for a nice Mig welder a couple weeks ago I had only used the 3/8 & 1/2 holders in 5 years . I don't think I would buy anything larger that 3/4 for these mills & that may be pushing the machine too far . I found like may users that ya lost some real-estate when using the end mill holders over using collet's . Being on the conserve my energy club I was not a huge fan of? raising & lowering the head a bunch so I pretty much stick with the collets .

animal

On 4/5/25 9:59 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:

You can use MT2 collets as tool holders. LMS only has them with a 3/8-16 thread but you should be abke to find them with the M10-1.5 thread on Amazon or ebay. Amazon has an MT2 to ER25 collet holder with metric threads, too. And you could make a 3/8-16 drawbar, too, if you can't find metric threaded MT2 collets.?

You can probably find MT2 endmill holders for Weldon-shank endmills. I got a few years ago for an Atlas mill. Or you can get MT2 blanks that you can make into endmill holders.?

Good luck, and have fun!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:25:00 AM CDT, Doug Pfaff via groups.io <justicekrieger@...> wrote:


Bruce,

Little Machine Shop should have everything you could possibly need.

Doug?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 9:05, Bruce via groups.io
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

You can use MT2 collets as tool holders. LMS only has them with a 3/8-16 thread but you should be abke to find them with the M10-1.5 thread on Amazon or ebay. Amazon has an MT2 to ER25 collet holder with metric threads, too. And you could make a 3/8-16 drawbar, too, if you can't find metric threaded MT2 collets.?

You can probably find MT2 endmill holders for Weldon-shank endmills. I got a few years ago for an Atlas mill. Or you can get MT2 blanks that you can make into endmill holders.?

Good luck, and have fun!

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, April 4, 2025 at 11:25:00 AM CDT, Doug Pfaff via groups.io <justicekrieger@...> wrote:


Bruce,

Little Machine Shop should have everything you could possibly need.

Doug?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 9:05, Bruce via groups.io
<wd9ghk@...> wrote:
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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Forgot to mention the top of my drawbar was traded 1/4 20 so i got a 1/4 20 coupler nut put on the hammer?? side , saves threads


animalOn 4/4/25 2:26 PM, mike allen wrote:

All Industrial HAS THE MT2 COLLET & ENDMILL HOLDERS THAT YA NEED? ( SORRY DAMN caps lock .)? Their stuff has been goog quality in my experience . I just traded my mill /dril that used those though mine used 3/8 16 on the drawbar threads .

animal

On 4/4/25 6:05 AM, Bruce via groups.io wrote:
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

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All Industrial HAS THE MT2 COLLET & ENDMILL HOLDERS THAT YA NEED? ( SORRY DAMN caps lock .)? Their stuff has been goog quality in my experience . I just traded my mill /dril that used those though mine used 3/8 16 on the drawbar threads .

animal

On 4/4/25 6:05 AM, Bruce via groups.io wrote:

Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

Bruce,

Little Machine Shop should have everything you could possibly need.

Doug?

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 9:05, Bruce via groups.io
<wd9ghk@...> wrote:
Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

Problem solved.
It is like a bigger mill, unscrewed the draw bar a little and hit it with a piece of aluminum and hammer. It came loose. It is a #2 Morse with a threaded hole of 10X1.5 MM. the other end had a chuck on it at one time. The mill is an older Harbor Fright model. I got it at an estate sale for $125 and came with two chucks with it. I can take one of them off and put on the shank. Now to find threaded shanks for end mills.
Thanks to everyone.
Bruce


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

The manual on the internet archive lists the spindle as #2 morse.? Looks like there is a drawbar, item 77 in the exploded view.

H Gilbert

On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:06?PM sapark123321 via <sapark123321=[email protected]> wrote:
If it is like mine it takes R8 collets/chucks.?? Loosen the Drawbar a few turns and whack the end of it with a mallet.


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

If it is like mine it takes R8 collets/chucks.?? Loosen the Drawbar a few turns and whack the end of it with a mallet.


Re: Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

I couldn't find that model number on the Harbor Freight web site - what is that machine?
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If it's a mill or "mill-drill", you may have received a wedge-shaped chunk of steel with the other accessories.? After loosening the drawbar, you can insert this through a slot in the side of the extended quill, where it should traverse just above the top end of the Morse taper of the chuck or collet.? Tapping it gently will dislodge the chuck/collet from the quill - make sure you're ready to catch it when it falls.
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Mark


Central Machinery micro mill model 47158

 

Thanks for letting me join.
Picked up a Central Machinery model 47158 sold by Harbor Freight. What is the thread dimension of the draw bar and how do you release the spindle?
Thanks,
Bruce H.


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On 15-Feb-25 2:15, Anthony Nagy via groups.io wrote:
Can¡¯t download or access tables???


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Worked for me on an Android phone with the Brave browser.?

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William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Friday, February 14, 2025 at 12:35:52 PM CST, Craig Treleaven <ctreleaven@...> wrote:


I¡¯m a member and logged in but still can¡¯t access this directory. ?Could be something to do with the ¡°%29¡± substitution in the URL?

Craig

On Feb 14, 2025, at 1:23 AM, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:



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Aha! ?The files are accessible in the _DrillMill_ area; not the _minilathe_ section!


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On Feb 14, 2025, at 6:34 PM, Hank Riley via <n1ltv@...> wrote:

Straightening out the confusion about these files and where they are.

Seven of the files Dave mentioned are?already?right here at Drillmill at this location:


The other two, files #8 and #9, I'll add very soon.

Hank
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Re: Charts and Tables

 

Straightening out the confusion about these files and where they are.

Seven of the files Dave mentioned are?already?right here at Drillmill at this location:


The other two, files #8 and #9, I'll add very soon.

Hank
one of the assistant moderators


Re: Charts and Tables

 

Can¡¯t download or access tables???