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The Lightning Stripe Scheme


 

Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce


 

And don't forget the small blue numbers applied to the sideframes of most, if not all, of the 5000's in the late 1960's.??

Jeff Martin

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From: "Bruce and Dana Archer"
To: "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday May 26 2024 9:07:24PM
Subject: [DandH-Railroad] The Lightning Stripe Scheme

Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce


 

Good morning Bruce,

As Jeff stated, there was also a period where a side number appeared on the side of the running boards on some lightning striped engines. This was limited to the RS-11s, RS-36s and the SD45s. Starting by 2/68, Gothic numbers started showing up on most of these units. It was about centered on the RS units above the fuel tank and above the front axle of the rear truck on the SD45s. Because of the radiator flaring of the SD45s, the yellow number couldn't be applied there as on the other six axle units.

With the arrival of the C-628s, a yellow number appeared above the radiator. This continued on the U30Cs, U23Bs and U33Cs.

The Railroad Roman number started appearing on the side of all engines, under the "Delaware & Hudson" by 3/71. Eventually, they were changed to the Gothic type.?

The large number on the sides of the lightning striped units was generally a "patch job". This stared by 5/81.

These dates are from pictures I have found from sources published and unpublished. They are as accurate as I am able to discern.

I hope this helps.

Ed


On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:07:24 PM EDT, Bruce and Dana Archer <bad@...> wrote:


Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce

--
Ed Cox


 

Thanks, ED and Jeff. There seems to be as many schemes as there were locomotives, one reason why I like the D&H. I have a bunch of RS-3s in at least 8 differing schemes, and none are any of the rent-a-wrecks.

Then there are the U23Bs, GPs, and the RS-11/36s...

Bruce

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From: "Ed Cox via groups.io"
To: "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Monday May 27 2024 8:14:56AM
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] The Lightning Stripe Scheme

Good morning Bruce,

As Jeff stated, there was also a period where a side number appeared on the side of the running boards on some lightning striped engines. This was limited to the RS-11s, RS-36s and the SD45s. Starting by 2/68, Gothic numbers started showing up on most of these units. It was about centered on the RS units above the fuel tank and above the front axle of the rear truck on the SD45s. Because of the radiator flaring of the SD45s, the yellow number couldn't be applied there as on the other six axle units.

With the arrival of the C-628s, a yellow number appeared above the radiator. This continued on the U30Cs, U23Bs and U33Cs.

The Railroad Roman number started appearing on the side of all engines, under the "Delaware & Hudson" by 3/71. Eventually, they were changed to the Gothic type.?

The large number on the sides of the lightning striped units was generally a "patch job". This stared by 5/81.

These dates are from pictures I have found from sources published and unpublished. They are as accurate as I am able to discern.

I hope this helps.

Ed


On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:07:24 PM EDT, Bruce and Dana Archer <bad@...> wrote:


Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce

--
Ed Cox


 

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Ed, this is certainly a detailed reply, for all the modelers here! I always like the positioning of the unit number on the C-628 fleet, although I can't say quite why.? A number on the cab side, under the cab window, always has seemed to me to be more practical-- as more likely to be where the eye is first drawn.? In heavy rain, snow, or at night, anyway.? Just an opinion, though.

Dave Saums.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:14:51 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] The Lightning Stripe Scheme
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Good morning Bruce,

As Jeff stated, there was also a period where a side number appeared on the side of the running boards on some lightning striped engines. This was limited to the RS-11s, RS-36s and the SD45s. Starting by 2/68, Gothic numbers started showing up on most of these units. It was about centered on the RS units above the fuel tank and above the front axle of the rear truck on the SD45s. Because of the radiator flaring of the SD45s, the yellow number couldn't be applied there as on the other six axle units.

With the arrival of the C-628s, a yellow number appeared above the radiator. This continued on the U30Cs, U23Bs and U33Cs.

The Railroad Roman number started appearing on the side of all engines, under the "Delaware & Hudson" by 3/71. Eventually, they were changed to the Gothic type.?

The large number on the sides of the lightning striped units was generally a "patch job". This stared by 5/81.

These dates are from pictures I have found from sources published and unpublished. They are as accurate as I am able to discern.

I hope this helps.

Ed


On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:07:24 PM EDT, Bruce and Dana Archer <bad@...> wrote:


Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce

--
Ed Cox


 

You're welcome. I enjoy doing the research and sharing.

Ed

On Monday, May 27, 2024 at 05:06:29 PM EDT, Dave Saums <dsaums@...> wrote:


Ed, this is certainly a detailed reply, for all the modelers here! I always like the positioning of the unit number on the C-628 fleet, although I can't say quite why.? A number on the cab side, under the cab window, always has seemed to me to be more practical-- as more likely to be where the eye is first drawn.? In heavy rain, snow, or at night, anyway.? Just an opinion, though.

Dave Saums.

Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Cox via groups.io <edcox13@...>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 8:14:51 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [DandH-Railroad] The Lightning Stripe Scheme
?
Good morning Bruce,

As Jeff stated, there was also a period where a side number appeared on the side of the running boards on some lightning striped engines. This was limited to the RS-11s, RS-36s and the SD45s. Starting by 2/68, Gothic numbers started showing up on most of these units. It was about centered on the RS units above the fuel tank and above the front axle of the rear truck on the SD45s. Because of the radiator flaring of the SD45s, the yellow number couldn't be applied there as on the other six axle units.

With the arrival of the C-628s, a yellow number appeared above the radiator. This continued on the U30Cs, U23Bs and U33Cs.

The Railroad Roman number started appearing on the side of all engines, under the "Delaware & Hudson" by 3/71. Eventually, they were changed to the Gothic type.?

The large number on the sides of the lightning striped units was generally a "patch job". This stared by 5/81.

These dates are from pictures I have found from sources published and unpublished. They are as accurate as I am able to discern.

I hope this helps.

Ed


On Sunday, May 26, 2024 at 09:07:24 PM EDT, Bruce and Dana Archer <bad@...> wrote:


Hi!
?? While looking at images of Rs-3s and Rs-11/36s I noticed some changes. At first, it appears there were no side numbers. At some point, the side numbers were added. There were two styles, Railroad Roman and Gothic. So when were the side numbers added, and was there a plan to which loco received which lettering? Many, if not all of the 6-axel power received yellow numbers near the radiator exhaust. Did others receive the yellow numbers?

Lastly, when did the D&H start applying the large side numbers?


Bruce

--
Ed Cox

--
Ed Cox


 

It hasn't been mentioned yet, but the RS2's &3's also had small yellow numbers at the top center of ends of each hood at least during the early 70's.