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i have a b4 lathe with original overhead shaft system which i want to set up wondering if anyone could help by way of diagram or photo; s showing drive shaft mounting and dimensions and what size drive pulley do i need for the moter i would like every thing to look period looking ;regards Darren

Hi guys, If you haven't seen it, there is a Dalton B-4 on ebay. It looks to have a set of change gears and cast iron legs. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-DALTON-SIX-B-4-Screw-Cutting-Lathe- Tooling_W0QQitemZ150045289638QQihZ005QQcategoryZ104241QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Jim

Hi, Today I purchased a Dalton B4 lathe, lot 4, S/N 2742, with a 36" bed. After I sort out, or figure out what all of the pieces are, I'll take some pictures and post them if anyone is interested. This lathe was advertised on Craigslist several weeks ago, here in Seattle

Hi All Well I have stopped crying for now so I thought I would let everyone know that Brian has made the score of the century. I will post one of Brian's pictures up for all to drool over. I just can't stop crying over what he has and I dont. Brian has come up with one of the most original pristine examples of old Hubert's art. I mean right down to a complete overhead planetary gear silent chain drive with original switch and all the guards. Ya and he even has a threading dial. Fantastic find. I wont it I wont it."-)))) Turk

Another Dalton listed on e-bay metal lathe "dalton six" antique beauty early 1900's !! Item number: 330056241444 Dirty Harry pulled his orginal listing and re-listed as a "Buy it Now" or "Best Offer" "Buy it now price" US $1,499.99 He must have checked Andy's site since he says it one of 73 left in the world Just my opinion

My lathe doesn't have a chip tray and I was wondering if anyone has the dimensions or maybe even a drawing of what one looked like. Just a basic size of the tray and an angular dimension with a length on the flanges would be great. Even a couple of good pictures would help. Over the next couple of weeks I'm sure I'll have some other questions. Thanks, Larry

Hi All I had nothing to do this morning so I posted some pictures of John Glands 1915 B-4 Lot 4 serial number 2270. For you guys that are looking for a drive for your Dalton take a look at the last couple of pictures and you will see the one I built for Johns Lathe. This lathe will fit on a 22 inch wide bench and is really compact. The frame is just angle iron and to it is bolted a Atlas vertical countershaft. These are always available on eBay and I actually have a couple of them here if anyone is interested in purchasing one for there lathe. As you can see in the photos I used a poly Vee drive belt. These are available from McMaster Carr for about $20 bucks and they come in a variety of lengths so you can match up with your drive. These belts really grip and they like to squeal before they start to slip. Run very smooth also. As to the post about a VFD or variable speed drive they will work just great but remember you will need to us a countershaft of some kind were you can reduce the speed of the motor by at least 2 to 1 if not 3 to 1. If you try and run direct to the lathe from a VFD equipped motor you will burn the windings out of your motor at slow speeds. There is just not enough air moving over the field windings to keep them cool. VFD's will really pump the power into your windings at very slow speed trying to keep the torque up and really heat things up in doing so. If you can not run a reduction on the motor then you will have to put an additional fan on the motor to cool it. With the price of VFD's coming down they are becoming a drive of chouse for many lathe owners. A 1 hp drive can be gotten off eBay now for under $100. These give you a lot of flexibility in setting up a simple drive but remember to set the top speed of the spindle at 1000 or less or you will be looking for someone to make you a new set of spindle bearings. Turk

What kind of motor's are you using on your lathe. Are you using the original motor or some kind of variable speed hook-up? I was thinking about using a treadmill motor with a controller for variable speed. Anyone have other idea's?

Brian Dennis has got it right, but, of course, so do you ;-} We do NOT control the value of our lathes -- while we might be able to refuse to sell them for "nothing," and that may raise the selling prices a small amount, anything is subject to the law of supply and demand (being another motorcycle nut, I could wax loquacious on the vagaries of THAT market, but you'd all be snoring in short order). The short, AM radio version is that anything you own is worth exactly what a buyer is willing to pay for it -- but you already knew that ;-} In any event, enjoy either your lathe or the funds it generates from its sale -- John Rosberg Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Hi fella's. Im new to the dalton owners group, and the computer. I,ve been reading the chat group and Ebay. I see people selling these Daltons for $1500. This makes no sense to me when I see tin trays, with Coca-Cola Painted on, selling for $500 to $800, or a doll selling for $1000. The reason this has come to my attention, is, as much as I hate to, I'm considering selling mine. I went to the Ebay store to ask questions. When I told her how much I wanted for it, she told me, she could'nt run it for that much. Based on 3 other ones that were selling for $1400 to $1500. Even after I told her the condition and rareity of this machine. It seems to me, that, as the owners of these 74 or so, machines, are'nt we in control of their value. As long as people keep selling them for nothing, then thats what their worth. Let me refer to that old German lathe that sold for $47000 and Turk said " we'll be proud when our daltons are worth that." Now, I know that was much older, bigger, and of better Quality, but, there is no way I'm selling mine for "nothing". I guess i'm looking for some feedback. Does this make sense to anybody else, or am I crazzzzy ?`

...cuz I'm too embarrassed to say :+. Anyway, can someone tell me about the different swings on these lathes. I was of the impression that there was a model with a 6" swing (a Dalton Six?). The one I have...and I repeat, I won't tell where it's at...has just shy of an 8" swing IIRC. Most of the pictures in the gallery resemble mine. Any Merry Christmas by the way.

Hi All Just to let you know Dirty Harry found another overhead drive Dalton. This is a Lot 5 with the next to the newest serial number. Beware of this machine as the front bearing cap is broken and has a repair strap on it to hold the bearing cap down. The overhead drive is just like the last one he offered that sold to the guy in California. The clutches and the silent chain as well as the reveres gear box are all missing from the drive. The end door top fixed gear guard is missing and in its place is a crud home build replacement. There is one unique feature on this lathe. This lathe has the lever collet closer bracket mounted to the back tee slot. If you take a look at the pictures of the gear door end you will see the bracket though there is no closer offered with the lathe. I would rate this lathe as well used to used up with all the amateur repairs I see to it. The lathe is a post 1924 with the tail stock it has but is a pre 1926 lathe as it still has the NY address. Here is the item number to the auction. 330067255208 Dennis Turk

If you have not yet registered your Dalton please go to Andy's site http://oldarn.com/dalton/ and REGISTER YOUR LATHE. Andy keeps a record on his web site which includes the Lathe Serial numbers, approx date of manufacturing and other information. Most of this list members were invited based upon Andy's list, but there are several members who found us by themselves or were refered. SOOOOOO REGISTER YOUR DALTON if you have not done so. http://oldarn.com/dalton/ Ron Peeler B-4 owner

Hiya folks. I've been looking around for a dirt cheap metal lathe for some time... I knew there was one sitting in my dad's barn he never uses, but I hate to take his toys away, so I kept looking for a really cheap little Atlas/Craftsman, which is what I thought he had... Well I picked his up yesterday due to impatience, and found it's a Dalton... Lot 3 #607 Haven't established the model yet, and I'm sorting through parts and accessories... I'll be picking your collective brain on a bunch of this stuff I suspect... Yes, I just registered over at oldarn.com. Having now spent a little time looking around, and reading some, I'm a little leery of this being my first lathe now... Everything seems complete, and I've got a ton of tooling, so I'm ok there, but naturally, one of the little Atlas types would be my preference to start on in the case that I manage to botch it up... Not that I'm an amateur at restorations as I have been doing older (mostly 30's, and 40's) woodworking machines for a while... The wood side of life is what pushed me to look for a lathe, as I need to make a couple little parts for a '48 table saw I can't beg borrow or steal from anyone else... Cheers!

A couple of good links came across the antique engine club today that may interest someone. http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/ http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi Ed Stoller New Fairfield, CT http://home.earthlink.net/~edstoller/

Ok, I got a few pictures of the lathe and parts up in the photos area. I've got more, but no need to clutter up space yet. So what have I discovered so far?.. Well someone had all the adjustments cranked on the dovetail ways, and the bed. I don't think there was any major wear as a result as the machine just hasn't seem much use in a long time... I backed off things until there was no play, but things seem to move more like they should... I've got a pretty good handle on any rust, and there isn't any major pitting anyplace that matters... My one major hang up to being able to just use the machine (and that's really what I need currently) is the pressure plate in the dovetail of the top slide that someone bent badly. You can see it in the second picture... Anyone have one from a beater lathe they would part with, or have an idea where to source one? Next question is, is anyone running the flat belts that have a splice point? The way this one was setup before, it looks like someone just took an old belt, and wired it together with copper wire... Not exactly elegant, but I guess it worked... I could pull the spindle and slide an endless on, but I'd prefer to let that sleeping dog lie as everything seems good there... The counter shaft would have to come apart as well, so I'm leaning toward the metal splice linkage, unless someone tells me its going to destroy the lathe... As for the countershaft, from the little bit of looking around I've done, I'm leaning toward it being a South Bend, but that's mostly a guess based on some similarities with a couple others I've seen... Cheers! -Tim

Hi all Just note about a Lot 3 that just came up for bid on English eBay. I have emailed the seller with additional information and also requesting the serial number and winning bidders name. Here is the item number but you do not have to go to the English eBay site you can just plug it in and it will take you there. 260076015993 Turk

Ok, I've had exactly zero luck finding something I can replace the gib in my top slide with. I'm going to run it by my neighbor tomorrow as he has a mill, but it might be a little too small to handle with his gear, and I don't know what tolerance I really need him to pull off... So, does anyone have a top slide gib they're willing to part with for a Lot 3? I think I could use the cross slide gib too, and just cut it shorter, but haven't confirmed that... I've got change gears bubbling away nicely in my electrolysis tank now, so they should come out nice and clean in another day or so... If that works out well, then there are a few other parts that will be getting the bath... Talk about better living through chemistry... I'll take sitting around and watching bubbles for a few days over chemical strippers, wire wheels, and abrasives any day... Cheers! -Tim

Hi all There is a B-4 Dalton steady rest up for bid on eBay. Unfortunately it has been modified to fit on a 6 inch Atlas lathe. They machined off the base and eliminated the V groove lowering it down to a 6 inch center hight. Buggers. It can be repaired and used again on a Dalton if you would like an original one. Dennis Turk Item number 290073916089 Link to auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&rd=1&item=290073916089&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019

Hi, i own 'Dalton Six' lathe that i'm thinking of parting with. Anybody in this group interested? I would really like to trade it for a combo machine. Its a great machine, but my interests lie more in restoring bikes than tools! Located in Ramsey, N.J.