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Joe your envelop came today.? Will get your item out next week
when I get back from my coast home where I am heading to tomorrow morning.??
Dennis
?
?
I?
use 'Shield' from Bore Tech to protect my Charleville and Sharps. It's great on
precision tools as well. Leaves no oily film.
Not
a lick of rust on my set up blocks used in an unheated shop.
On Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM EST, Grey Pilgrim
<pilgrim23@...> wrote:
I agree Dennis. I also live in Oregon ?(A wee south of the
Turk steading) My shop is a separate building unheated. ?Each fall I douse
every machine and most tools in oil as a winter treatment. ?Come spring it
takes a week of clean up. ?Even at that I can get flash rust on things and
spend a lot of time ?with Scotch Brite. ? ?As to my guns, I got
tired of the cold gunsafe and built a dedicated, heated, Gun Room ?and
have had no problems ?with rust there since. ?
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Glen
in 1977 I moved into the home I built that was at 900 feet elevation.? I
had a shop that was at the back of the garage (separate building). The next
summer I got my first mill and old Induma.? That next winter we
experienced the coldest winter that anyone remembered up on the hill.? The
temp ran below zero with a high temp of 9 degrees over a two week period.?
Not what Oregon is all aboutL? Anyway after the cold spell it wormed up to 55 degrees
over night with a steady rain. That next morning I went out into the shop and
what I seen I could not believe.? There was a steady stream of water running
off the spindle of the mill.? Water was running off the mill in rivers,
the floor was covered with water.? So that much cast iron that cold for
that long and soon as the temp went above freezing water stared condensing out
of the air all over the mill.? What a rusty mess I had. Tools in the tool
box rusted every piece of metal in the shop had water standing on it or running
off it. Never seen that before or since but that is what can happen to frozen
metal then subjected to very worm most air.? Oh and learned to hate that
induma mill but it was the start of Turk Mfg.J?
Dennis
?
?
I have to say, my gun safe
which has about 40 pistols and a couple of long guns in it has done well using
a goldenrod. It keeps the environment inside around 140-150 F.
?Some of the rarer handguns also get petted with a rag with one of the
three rust killers.
?Being inside the house though seems to make the long guns that are not
inside the safe free of rust.
?Here's my understanding (FWIW) of what happens in an un-insulated shop.
All night long cooler air loaded with humidity wafts through the shop cooling
everything. The cast iron acts as a heat sink, only as a cold soak instead.
?In the morning the inside air is replaced with warmer (But still humid)
air, which, when it touches the colder cast iron condenses. I've watched it
happen often, sometime running tiny rivers, but most often just taking on a
duller cast which is the microscopic beads of water refracting the light.
?Seeing that a guy naturally grabs a paper towel and wipes it off, and
that also wipes off the protective film of rust prevention.
?My wife and I feed a number of feral cats outside the house, and of
course we made little boxes for them to sleep in. At the bottom of the boxes,
below the pallets they sit on, we place aluminum plates with old hot glue gun
elements clamped to the plates (One per 8X10 1/4" thick plate). The power
comes through a simple PID controller that turns the power on at 40 F and off
again at 65 F.
?That works real well but I can't buy 6 or 8 of those for the machines at
the hangar, they're $48 apiece.
?
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Dennis - are you going to bring your laptop back up home?tomorrow? I'd sure like to help you get going with a better email system!
Dan
Joe your envelop came today.? Will get your item out next week
when I get back from my coast home where I am heading to tomorrow morning.??
Dennis
?
?
I?
use 'Shield' from Bore Tech to protect my Charleville and Sharps. It's great on
precision tools as well. Leaves no oily film.
Not
a lick of rust on my set up blocks used in an unheated shop.
On Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM EST, Grey Pilgrim
<pilgrim23@...> wrote:
I agree Dennis. I also live in Oregon ?(A wee south of the
Turk steading) My shop is a separate building unheated.? Each fall I douse
every machine and most tools in oil as a winter treatment.? Come spring it
takes a week of clean up.? Even at that I can get flash rust on things and
spend a lot of time ?with Scotch Brite. ? ?As to my guns, I got
tired of the cold gunsafe and built a dedicated, heated, Gun Room ?and
have had no problems ?with rust there since. ?
?
Glen
in 1977 I moved into the home I built that was at 900 feet elevation.? I
had a shop that was at the back of the garage (separate building). The next
summer I got my first mill and old Induma.? That next winter we
experienced the coldest winter that anyone remembered up on the hill.? The
temp ran below zero with a high temp of 9 degrees over a two week period.?
Not what Oregon is all aboutL? Anyway after the cold spell it wormed up to 55 degrees
over night with a steady rain. That next morning I went out into the shop and
what I seen I could not believe.? There was a steady stream of water running
off the spindle of the mill.? Water was running off the mill in rivers,
the floor was covered with water.? So that much cast iron that cold for
that long and soon as the temp went above freezing water stared condensing out
of the air all over the mill.? What a rusty mess I had. Tools in the tool
box rusted every piece of metal in the shop had water standing on it or running
off it. Never seen that before or since but that is what can happen to frozen
metal then subjected to very worm most air.? Oh and learned to hate that
induma mill but it was the start of Turk Mfg.J?
Dennis
?
?
I have to say, my gun safe
which has about 40 pistols and a couple of long guns in it has done well using
a goldenrod. It keeps the environment inside around 140-150 F.
?Some of the rarer handguns also get petted with a rag with one of the
three rust killers.
?Being inside the house though seems to make the long guns that are not
inside the safe free of rust.
?Here's my understanding (FWIW) of what happens in an un-insulated shop.
All night long cooler air loaded with humidity wafts through the shop cooling
everything. The cast iron acts as a heat sink, only as a cold soak instead.
?In the morning the inside air is replaced with warmer (But still humid)
air, which, when it touches the colder cast iron condenses. I've watched it
happen often, sometime running tiny rivers, but most often just taking on a
duller cast which is the microscopic beads of water refracting the light.
?Seeing that a guy naturally grabs a paper towel and wipes it off, and
that also wipes off the protective film of rust prevention.
?My wife and I feed a number of feral cats outside the house, and of
course we made little boxes for them to sleep in. At the bottom of the boxes,
below the pallets they sit on, we place aluminum plates with old hot glue gun
elements clamped to the plates (One per 8X10 1/4" thick plate). The power
comes through a simple PID controller that turns the power on at 40 F and off
again at 65 F.
?That works real well but I can't buy 6 or 8 of those for the machines at
the hangar, they're $48 apiece.
?
-- Dan & Jeanne Linscheid
Salem, OR
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Dennis - are you going to bring your laptop back up home?tomorrow? I'd sure like to help you get going with a better email system!
Dan
Joe your envelop came today.? Will get your item out next week
when I get back from my coast home where I am heading to tomorrow morning.??
Dennis ?
?
I?
use 'Shield' from Bore Tech to protect my Charleville and Sharps. It's great on
precision tools as well. Leaves no oily film.
Not
a lick of rust on my set up blocks used in an unheated shop.
On Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM EST, Grey Pilgrim
<pilgrim23@...> wrote:
I agree Dennis. I also live in Oregon ?(A wee south of the
Turk steading) My shop is a separate building unheated.? Each fall I douse
every machine and most tools in oil as a winter treatment.? Come spring it
takes a week of clean up.? Even at that I can get flash rust on things and
spend a lot of time ?with Scotch Brite. ? ?As to my guns, I got
tired of the cold gunsafe and built a dedicated, heated, Gun Room ?and
have had no problems ?with rust there since. ?
?
Glen
in 1977 I moved into the home I built that was at 900 feet elevation.? I
had a shop that was at the back of the garage (separate building). The next
summer I got my first mill and old Induma.? That next winter we
experienced the coldest winter that anyone remembered up on the hill.? The
temp ran below zero with a high temp of 9 degrees over a two week period.?
Not what Oregon is all aboutL? Anyway after the cold spell it wormed up to 55 degrees
over night with a steady rain. That next morning I went out into the shop and
what I seen I could not believe.? There was a steady stream of water running
off the spindle of the mill.? Water was running off the mill in rivers,
the floor was covered with water.? So that much cast iron that cold for
that long and soon as the temp went above freezing water stared condensing out
of the air all over the mill.? What a rusty mess I had. Tools in the tool
box rusted every piece of metal in the shop had water standing on it or running
off it. Never seen that before or since but that is what can happen to frozen
metal then subjected to very worm most air.? Oh and learned to hate that
induma mill but it was the start of Turk Mfg.J?
Dennis ?
? I have to say, my gun safe
which has about 40 pistols and a couple of long guns in it has done well using
a goldenrod. It keeps the environment inside around 140-150 F.
?Some of the rarer handguns also get petted with a rag with one of the
three rust killers.
?Being inside the house though seems to make the long guns that are not
inside the safe free of rust.
?Here's my understanding (FWIW) of what happens in an un-insulated shop.
All night long cooler air loaded with humidity wafts through the shop cooling
everything. The cast iron acts as a heat sink, only as a cold soak instead.
?In the morning the inside air is replaced with warmer (But still humid)
air, which, when it touches the colder cast iron condenses. I've watched it
happen often, sometime running tiny rivers, but most often just taking on a
duller cast which is the microscopic beads of water refracting the light.
?Seeing that a guy naturally grabs a paper towel and wipes it off, and
that also wipes off the protective film of rust prevention.
?My wife and I feed a number of feral cats outside the house, and of
course we made little boxes for them to sleep in. At the bottom of the boxes,
below the pallets they sit on, we place aluminum plates with old hot glue gun
elements clamped to the plates (One per 8X10 1/4" thick plate). The power
comes through a simple PID controller that turns the power on at 40 F and off
again at 65 F.
?That works real well but I can't buy 6 or 8 of those for the machines at
the hangar, they're $48 apiece.
?
-- Dan & Jeanne Linscheid
Salem, OR
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Thanks for reminding me Dan.? Actually I am leaving to go down
tomorrow morning.
?
?
Dennis - are you going to bring your laptop back up
home?tomorrow? I'd sure like to help you get going with a better email
system!
?
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On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:39 PM Dennis Turk < dennis.turk2@...>
wrote:
Joe
your envelop came today.? Will get your item out next week when I get back
from my coast home where I am heading to tomorrow morning.?? Dennis
?
?
I? use 'Shield'
from Bore Tech to protect my Charleville and Sharps. It's great on precision
tools as well. Leaves no oily film.
Not a lick of rust
on my set up blocks used in an unheated shop.
On
Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM EST, Grey Pilgrim <pilgrim23@...>
wrote:
I
agree Dennis. I also live in Oregon ?(A wee south of the Turk steading) My
shop is a separate building unheated.? Each fall I douse every machine and
most tools in oil as a winter treatment.? Come spring it takes a week of
clean up.? Even at that I can get flash rust on things and spend a lot of time
?with Scotch Brite. ? ?As to my guns, I got tired of the cold
gunsafe and built a dedicated, heated, Gun Room ?and have had no problems
?with rust there since. ?
?
Glen in 1977 I moved
into the home I built that was at 900 feet elevation.? I had a shop that
was at the back of the garage (separate building). The next summer I got my
first mill and old Induma.? That next winter we experienced the coldest
winter that anyone remembered up on the hill.? The temp ran below zero
with a high temp of 9 degrees over a two week period.? Not what Oregon is
all aboutL? Anyway after
the cold spell it wormed up to 55 degrees over night with a steady rain. That
next morning I went out into the shop and what I seen I could not
believe.? There was a steady stream of water running off the spindle of
the mill.? Water was running off the mill in rivers, the floor was covered
with water.? So that much cast iron that cold for that long and soon as
the temp went above freezing water stared condensing out of the air all over
the mill.? What a rusty mess I had. Tools in the tool box rusted every
piece of metal in the shop had water standing on it or running off it. Never
seen that before or since but that is what can happen to frozen metal then
subjected to very worm most air.? Oh and learned to hate that induma mill
but it was the start of Turk Mfg.J? Dennis
?
?
I
have to say, my gun safe which has about 40 pistols and a couple of long guns
in it has done well using a goldenrod. It keeps the environment inside around
140-150 F.
?Some of the rarer handguns also get petted with a rag with one of the
three rust killers.
?Being inside the house though seems to make the long guns that are not
inside the safe free of rust.
?Here's my understanding (FWIW) of what happens in an un-insulated shop.
All night long cooler air loaded with humidity wafts through the shop cooling
everything. The cast iron acts as a heat sink, only as a cold soak instead.
?In the morning the inside air is replaced with warmer (But still humid)
air, which, when it touches the colder cast iron condenses. I've watched it
happen often, sometime running tiny rivers, but most often just taking on a
duller cast which is the microscopic beads of water refracting the light.
?Seeing that a guy naturally grabs a paper towel and wipes it off, and
that also wipes off the protective film of rust prevention.
?My wife and I feed a number of feral cats outside the house, and of
course we made little boxes for them to sleep in. At the bottom of the boxes,
below the pallets they sit on, we place aluminum plates with old hot glue gun
elements clamped to the plates (One per 8X10 1/4" thick plate). The power
comes through a simple PID controller that turns the power on at 40 F and off
again at 65 F.
?That works real well but I can't buy 6 or 8 of those for the machines at
the hangar, they're $48 apiece.
?
--
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Oh Poo on you Bart its your computer that has the problem.
Hahahahahaha
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Dan PLEASE help him!!!!
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?
Dennis - are you going to bring your laptop back up
home?tomorrow? I'd sure like to help you get going with a better email
system!
?
Joe
your envelop came today.? Will get your item out next week when I get back
from my coast home where I am heading to tomorrow morning.?? Dennis
?
?
I? use 'Shield'
from Bore Tech to protect my Charleville and Sharps. It's great on precision
tools as well. Leaves no oily film.
Not a lick of rust
on my set up blocks used in an unheated shop.
On
Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 04:27:32 PM EST, Grey Pilgrim <pilgrim23@...>
wrote:
I
agree Dennis. I also live in Oregon ?(A wee south of the Turk steading) My
shop is a separate building unheated.? Each fall I douse every machine and
most tools in oil as a winter treatment.? Come spring it takes a week of
clean up.? Even at that I can get flash rust on things and spend a lot of
time ?with Scotch Brite. ? ?As to my guns, I got tired of the cold
gunsafe and built a dedicated, heated, Gun Room ?and have had no problems
?with rust there since. ?
?
Glen in 1977 I moved
into the home I built that was at 900 feet elevation.? I had a shop that
was at the back of the garage (separate building). The next summer I got my
first mill and old Induma.? That next winter we experienced the coldest
winter that anyone remembered up on the hill.? The temp ran below zero
with a high temp of 9 degrees over a two week period.? Not what Oregon is
all aboutL? Anyway after
the cold spell it wormed up to 55 degrees over night with a steady rain. That
next morning I went out into the shop and what I seen I could not
believe.? There was a steady stream of water running off the spindle of
the mill.? Water was running off the mill in rivers, the floor was covered
with water.? So that much cast iron that cold for that long and soon as
the temp went above freezing water stared condensing out of the air all over
the mill.? What a rusty mess I had. Tools in the tool box rusted every
piece of metal in the shop had water standing on it or running off it. Never
seen that before or since but that is what can happen to frozen metal then
subjected to very worm most air.? Oh and learned to hate that induma mill
but it was the start of Turk Mfg.J? Dennis
?
?
I
have to say, my gun safe which has about 40 pistols and a couple of long guns
in it has done well using a goldenrod. It keeps the environment inside around
140-150 F.
?Some of the rarer handguns also get petted with a rag with one of the
three rust killers.
?Being inside the house though seems to make the long guns that are not
inside the safe free of rust.
?Here's my understanding (FWIW) of what happens in an un-insulated shop.
All night long cooler air loaded with humidity wafts through the shop cooling
everything. The cast iron acts as a heat sink, only as a cold soak instead.
?In the morning the inside air is replaced with warmer (But still humid)
air, which, when it touches the colder cast iron condenses. I've watched it
happen often, sometime running tiny rivers, but most often just taking on a
duller cast which is the microscopic beads of water refracting the light.
?Seeing that a guy naturally grabs a paper towel and wipes it off, and
that also wipes off the protective film of rust prevention.
?My wife and I feed a number of feral cats outside the house, and of
course we made little boxes for them to sleep in. At the bottom of the boxes,
below the pallets they sit on, we place aluminum plates with old hot glue gun
elements clamped to the plates (One per 8X10 1/4" thick plate). The power
comes through a simple PID controller that turns the power on at 40 F and off
again at 65 F.
?That works real well but I can't buy 6 or 8 of those for the machines at
the hangar, they're $48 apiece.
?
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Dennis Turk
Dan Linscheid