Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
An excellent program for
reducing, viewing and some editing of images is Jpegger and it's free.
??
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
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One other thing I would like all the
guys that post pictures to think about.? Try and be kind to your dial
up guys but reducing any picture files down to under 150KB as most of
these guys on dial up there servers will reject very large files.
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Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Verrrrrry nice Larry
?
Your lathe is a lot 5 machine and would have been
built after 1920 but before 1922.? In 1922 Dalton patent a special hinge
for the end door on the TL model lathe.? That patent is present on any
lathe built after 1921.? So I am going to say you have a low serial
number.? Remember Dalton used a separate set of serial numbers for each Lot
number of machine model. The lathe you see on my flicker site has the 1922
patent number but is serial number 263 so again is a low number as we have Lot 5
lathes with numbers?all the way to 6100.? Then ever time we think we
have old Hubert figured out he throws us a curve.??
?
You also have the bearing standards with the patent
oiling system.? What I mean is your countershaft setup.? You have the
cone pulley and the bearing standards that were part of the overhead
countershaft that came with these lathes.? The only difference it what you
have and what came with the lathe is your missing the forward and reveres
clutches and the handle to actuate them.? If you look inside the bearings
on the countershaft you will see a little ring about 1 1/2 inches in diameter
that rotates on the shaft.? This is what brings the oil up from the
reservoir under the bearing bore.? I have several of these and have yet to
find any wear in any of them.? Some of the old induction repulsion motors
used this same system for lubing the motor shaft bearings.? Only thing was
Dalton patent the idea for line shaft bearings.? South Bend used a very
similar bearing only they could not use the ring because of the Dalton patent so
they cut a keyway in the bearing and passed a felt wick from one end to the
other with the wick feeding down into the reservoir below the bearing.? I
just got a 10 inch Champion lathe built by the Blower and Forge company of
Lancaster Pa that has a different setup yet.? Champion used a flat spring
to hold a felt wick up against the shaft in the center of the bearing.?
This wick carried oil up from the reservoir below the bearing and as it ran out
the end of the bearing it was collected in groove around the end of the casting
and a drain back hole carried the overflow back to the reservoir.??
Lots of interesting things when it comes to all these old machines and all the
ways they came up with to lube them.
?
One other thing I would like all the guys that post
pictures to think about.? Try and be kind to your dial up guys but reducing
any picture files down to under 150KB as most of these guys on dial up there
servers will reject very large files.
?
Turk
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Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:15
AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5
Dalton now on display
hi dennis
the halfnut lever is the third type, clamped
with a slotted screw.? I have what looks like a clutch knob aka the
old south bend design. I have attached some pix that may be
helpful.
the jack shaft seems complete tho I lack a chaser
dial.
Yours,
Larry
--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Dennis Turk
<dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis
Turk verizon.net>
Subject: Re:
[daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To:
daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 7,
2008, 11:23 AM
Hi Larry
?
No its not important only tells me when
the lathe was built.? So if you patent tag is on the change door
then your lathe was built after 1918.? OK next question.?
How is the half nut handle afixed to the shaft?? There are three
versions.?? The first one the Handle is held on with a pin
pressed through the handle hub.? Second one the handle has a
keyway and there is a set screw that holds it on to the half nut
shaft.? The last one has the keyway but there is a boss cast onto
the handle hub that is split and there is a slotted screw that clamps
the handle hub onto the shaft. This was the last design and was used
to the end of production of the Lot 4 lathes as well as the Lot 5 6
and 8 machines. We only think the 9 1/2 inch machine is Lot 8 we have
not proved that yet as we only have one example here at my shop and
one in Washington?State but so?far that guy I cant even make
him?understand were the lot and serial number is located.?
Thats the 9 1/2 inch I am trying to talk him out of but he's not much
of a communicator.
?
Let me know if I can be of any help with
your?lathe work Larry.
?
Dennis?
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:41 AM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Thanks for the info. As i can't
find good stock for my tinshop i might as well start on the
lathe.? The pat. no was on the change gear cover.?
is this important?
yours
Larry
--- On Sat,
12/6/08, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@
verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot
5 Dalton now on display
To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups.
com
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 2:38 PM
Hi Larry
?
Yes I have the only stock of
spare parts.? If your latest patent date is 1917 then I
bet the patent tag is on the tail stock and not on the gear
door right????
?
Larry I have I think parts to
22 Daltons.? Complete machines in some cases but mostly
just parts lathes that were not complete when I got
them.? I do have some change gears but hate to let any
go especially a complete set.? You can also get gears
from Boston or Browning as they still make 20 pitch 14 1/2
degree change gears that you can use.? My very first
Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy Sargents web
site most of the change gears on that lathe I got from
Boston gear.? When I restored that lathe the only ones
Andy and I knew of was his and mine.? That was almost
ten years ago and now I think we have found over 110
machines now with an example of every model Dalton
made.? We have found six of the combination machines
but only two of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48 inch bed
models.? I have one and the other one I am trying
really hard to purchase but? have not talked the owner
into it yet."-))? His is incomplete as is mine but the
two would make one very complete cabinet based overhead
silent chain drive model.? Very much like the one you
see on my flicker photo site.? Just a lot
bigger.
?
As to the collet setup there
are several of the guys that have the draw bar setup like
you see on the 1922 machine.? The only known lever
collet closer setup is owned by a fellow in Indiana.? I
have not seen it personally but I do have pictures of
it.? Here is a picture of what it looks
like.
?
Dennis Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a
collet attachment. Interesting.
On another note, I
bought a Dalton B-4 with latest patent date 1917 for a
song. Are you the go to guy for parts (change gears) and
rebuild advice.
Nothing serious as she is in beautiful
condition but I will need the gears and advice on how to
mount the jack shaft. another winter project among many
others.
Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun,
11/30/08, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
wrote:
> From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on
display
> To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
>
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi
all
>
> I got the 1922 Dalton's restoration
complete and it has
> been moved up
> to the
front lobby at my business and is now a running
>
display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker
site.
>
>
>
> Dennis
Turk
>
>
> ------------ ---------
--------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups
Links
>
>
>
| |
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
hi dennis
the halfnut lever is the third type, clamped with a slotted screw.? I have what looks like a clutch knob aka the old south bend design. I have attached some pix that may be helpful.
the jack shaft seems complete tho I lack a chaser dial.
Yours,
Larry
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--- On Sun, 12/7/08, Dennis Turk wrote: From: Dennis Turk
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To: daltonlathes@...
Date: Sunday, December 7, 2008, 11:23 AM
Hi Larry
?
No its not important only tells me when the lathe
was built.? So if you patent tag is on the change door then your lathe was
built after 1918.? OK next question.? How is the half nut handle
afixed to the shaft?? There are three versions.?? The first one
the Handle is held on with a pin pressed through the handle hub.? Second
one the handle has a keyway and there is a set screw that holds it on to the
half nut shaft.? The last one has the keyway but there is a boss cast onto
the handle hub that is split and there is a slotted screw that clamps the handle
hub onto the shaft. This was the last design and was used to the end of
production of the Lot 4 lathes as well as the Lot 5 6 and 8 machines. We only
think the 9 1/2 inch machine is Lot 8 we have not proved that yet as we only
have one example here at my shop and one in Washington?State but
so?far that guy I cant even make him?understand were the lot and
serial number is located.? Thats the 9 1/2 inch I am trying to talk him out
of but he's not much of a communicator.
?
Let me know if I can be of any help with
your?lathe work Larry.
?
Dennis?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:41
AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5
Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Thanks for the info. As i can't find good
stock for my tinshop i might as well start on the lathe.? The pat.
no was on the change gear cover.? is this
important?
yours
Larry
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Dennis Turk
<dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To:
daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, December 6,
2008, 2:38 PM
Hi Larry
?
Yes I have the only stock of spare
parts.? If your latest patent date is 1917 then I bet the patent
tag is on the tail stock and not on the gear door
right????
?
Larry I have I think parts to 22
Daltons.? Complete machines in some cases but mostly just parts
lathes that were not complete when I got them.? I do have some
change gears but hate to let any go especially a complete set.?
You can also get gears from Boston or Browning as they still make 20
pitch 14 1/2 degree change gears that you can use.? My very first
Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy Sargents web site most
of the change gears on that lathe I got from Boston gear.? When I
restored that lathe the only ones Andy and I knew of was his and
mine.? That was almost ten years ago and now I think we have
found over 110 machines now with an example of every model Dalton
made.? We have found six of the combination machines but only two
of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48 inch bed models.? I have one and
the other one I am trying really hard to purchase but? have not
talked the owner into it yet."-))? His is incomplete as is mine
but the two would make one very complete cabinet based overhead silent
chain drive model.? Very much like the one you see on my flicker
photo site.? Just a lot bigger.
?
As to the collet setup there are several
of the guys that have the draw bar setup like you see on the 1922
machine.? The only known lever collet closer setup is owned by a
fellow in Indiana.? I have not seen it personally but I do have
pictures of it.? Here is a picture of what it looks
like.
?
Dennis Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet
attachment. Interesting.
On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4
with latest patent date 1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for
parts (change gears) and rebuild advice.
Nothing serious as she
is in beautiful condition but I will need the gears and advice on
how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project among many
others.
Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net> wrote:
>
From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
> To:
daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
> Date:
Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi all
>
> I
got the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
> been
moved up
> to the front lobby at my business and is now a
running
> display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker
site.
>
>
>
> Dennis Turk
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
>
Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
|
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Larry
?
No its not important only tells me when the lathe
was built.? So if you patent tag is on the change door then your lathe was
built after 1918.? OK next question.? How is the half nut handle
afixed to the shaft?? There are three versions.?? The first one
the Handle is held on with a pin pressed through the handle hub.? Second
one the handle has a keyway and there is a set screw that holds it on to the
half nut shaft.? The last one has the keyway but there is a boss cast onto
the handle hub that is split and there is a slotted screw that clamps the handle
hub onto the shaft. This was the last design and was used to the end of
production of the Lot 4 lathes as well as the Lot 5 6 and 8 machines. We only
think the 9 1/2 inch machine is Lot 8 we have not proved that yet as we only
have one example here at my shop and one in Washington?State but
so?far that guy I cant even make him?understand were the lot and
serial number is located.? Thats the 9 1/2 inch I am trying to talk him out
of but he's not much of a communicator.
?
Let me know if I can be of any help with
your?lathe work Larry.
?
Dennis?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:41
AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5
Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Thanks for the info. As i can't find good
stock for my tinshop i might as well start on the lathe.? The pat.
no was on the change gear cover.? is this
important?
yours
Larry
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Dennis Turk
<dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
wrote:
From: Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To:
daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 6,
2008, 2:38 PM
Hi Larry
?
Yes I have the only stock of spare
parts.? If your latest patent date is 1917 then I bet the patent
tag is on the tail stock and not on the gear door
right????
?
Larry I have I think parts to 22
Daltons.? Complete machines in some cases but mostly just parts
lathes that were not complete when I got them.? I do have some
change gears but hate to let any go especially a complete set.?
You can also get gears from Boston or Browning as they still make 20
pitch 14 1/2 degree change gears that you can use.? My very first
Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy Sargents web site most
of the change gears on that lathe I got from Boston gear.? When I
restored that lathe the only ones Andy and I knew of was his and
mine.? That was almost ten years ago and now I think we have
found over 110 machines now with an example of every model Dalton
made.? We have found six of the combination machines but only two
of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48 inch bed models.? I have one and
the other one I am trying really hard to purchase but? have not
talked the owner into it yet."-))? His is incomplete as is mine
but the two would make one very complete cabinet based overhead silent
chain drive model.? Very much like the one you see on my flicker
photo site.? Just a lot bigger.
?
As to the collet setup there are several
of the guys that have the draw bar setup like you see on the 1922
machine.? The only known lever collet closer setup is owned by a
fellow in Indiana.? I have not seen it personally but I do have
pictures of it.? Here is a picture of what it looks
like.
?
Dennis Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet
attachment. Interesting.
On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4
with latest patent date 1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for
parts (change gears) and rebuild advice.
Nothing serious as she
is in beautiful condition but I will need the gears and advice on
how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project among many
others.
Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net> wrote:
>
From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
> To:
daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
> Date:
Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi all
>
> I
got the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
> been
moved up
> to the front lobby at my business and is now a
running
> display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker
site.
>
>
>
> Dennis Turk
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
>
Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
|
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Thanks for the info. As i can't find good stock for my tinshop i might as well start on the lathe.? The pat. no was on the change gear cover.? is this important?
yours
Larry
|
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Dennis Turk wrote: From: Dennis Turk
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To: daltonlathes@...
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 2:38 PM
Hi Larry
?
Yes I have the only stock of spare parts.? If
your latest patent date is 1917 then I bet the patent tag is on the tail stock
and not on the gear door right????
?
Larry I have I think parts to 22 Daltons.?
Complete machines in some cases but mostly just parts lathes that were not
complete when I got them.? I do have some change gears but hate to let any
go especially a complete set.? You can also get gears from Boston or
Browning as they still make 20 pitch 14 1/2 degree change gears that you can
use.? My very first Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy
Sargents web site most of the change gears on that lathe I got from Boston
gear.? When I restored that lathe the only ones Andy and I knew of was his
and mine.? That was almost ten years ago and now I think we have found over
110 machines now with an example of every model Dalton made.? We have found
six of the combination machines but only two of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48
inch bed models.? I have one and the other one I am trying really hard to
purchase but? have not talked the owner into it yet."-))? His is
incomplete as is mine but the two would make one very complete cabinet based
overhead silent chain drive model.? Very much like the one you see on my
flicker photo site.? Just a lot bigger.
?
As to the collet setup there are several of the
guys that have the draw bar setup like you see on the 1922 machine.? The
only known lever collet closer setup is owned by a fellow in Indiana.? I
have not seen it personally but I do have pictures of it.? Here is a
picture of what it looks like.
?
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19
AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5
Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet attachment.
Interesting.
On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4 with latest patent date
1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for parts (change gears) and rebuild
advice.
Nothing serious as she is in beautiful condition but I will need
the gears and advice on how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project
among many others.
Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
wrote:
> From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@ verizon.net>
>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
> To: daltonlathes@ yahoogroups. com
>
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi all
>
> I got
the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
> been moved up
> to the front lobby at my business and is now a running
>
display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker site.
>
>
>
> Dennis Turk
>
>
>
------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo!
Groups Links
>
>
>
|
If you haven't already done so, please go to Andy Sargent's web site
and regester your Dalton
Ron
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Larry Look at the 'Files" on the left side of the Dalton Group page. There is a copy of the Change gears that are Carried by Boston Gear My B-4 isn't any where near as pretty as Dennis's Daltons. Someday it may be, but for now its making shavings. And Dennis is the "Go to" guy Ron B-4 Owner Galton Group Moderator --- In daltonlathes@..., "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
Hi Larry
Yes I have the only stock of spare parts. If your latest patent
date is 1917 then I bet the patent tag is on the tail stock and not on the gear door right????
Larry I have I think parts to 22 Daltons. Complete machines in
some cases but mostly just parts lathes that were not complete when I got them. I do have some change gears but hate to let any go especially a complete set. You can also get gears from Boston or Browning as they still make 20 pitch 14 1/2 degree change gears that you can use. My very first Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy Sargents web site most of the change gears on that lathe I got from Boston gear. When I restored that lathe the only ones Andy and I knew of was his and mine. That was almost ten years ago and now I think we have found over 110 machines now with an example of every model Dalton made. We have found six of the combination machines but only two of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48 inch bed models. I have one and the other one I am trying really hard to purchase but have not talked the owner into it yet."-)) His is incomplete as is mine but the two would make one very complete cabinet based overhead silent chain drive model. Very much like the one you see on my flicker photo site. Just a lot bigger.
As to the collet setup there are several of the guys that have the
draw bar setup like you see on the 1922 machine. The only known lever collet closer setup is owned by a fellow in Indiana. I have not seen it personally but I do have pictures of it. Here is a picture of what it looks like.
Dennis Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: l leonard
To: daltonlathes@...
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet attachment.
Interesting. On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4 with latest patent date 1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for parts (change gears) and rebuild advice. Nothing serious as she is in beautiful condition but I will need the gears and advice on how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project among many others. Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
> From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...>
> Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
> To: daltonlathes@...
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi all
>
> I got the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
> been moved up
> to the front lobby at my business and is now a running
> display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker site.
>
>
>
> Dennis Turk
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Larry
?
Yes I have the only stock of spare parts.? If
your latest patent date is 1917 then I bet the patent tag is on the tail stock
and not on the gear door right????
?
Larry I have I think parts to 22 Daltons.?
Complete machines in some cases but mostly just parts lathes that were not
complete when I got them.? I do have some change gears but hate to let any
go especially a complete set.? You can also get gears from Boston or
Browning as they still make 20 pitch 14 1/2 degree change gears that you can
use.? My very first Dalton the one you see on the home page of Andy
Sargents web site most of the change gears on that lathe I got from Boston
gear.? When I restored that lathe the only ones Andy and I knew of was his
and mine.? That was almost ten years ago and now I think we have found over
110 machines now with an example of every model Dalton made.? We have found
six of the combination machines but only two of the Lot 8 9 1/2 inch swing 48
inch bed models.? I have one and the other one I am trying really hard to
purchase but? have not talked the owner into it yet."-))? His is
incomplete as is mine but the two would make one very complete cabinet based
overhead silent chain drive model.? Very much like the one you see on my
flicker photo site.? Just a lot bigger.
?
As to the collet setup there are several of the
guys that have the draw bar setup like you see on the 1922 machine.? The
only known lever collet closer setup is owned by a fellow in Indiana.? I
have not seen it personally but I do have pictures of it.? Here is a
picture of what it looks like.
?
Dennis Turk
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:19
AM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5
Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet attachment.
Interesting.
On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4 with latest patent date
1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for parts (change gears) and rebuild
advice.
Nothing serious as she is in beautiful condition but I will need
the gears and advice on how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project
among many others.
Thanks
Larry
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis
Turk <dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
wrote:
> From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@verizon.net>
>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
> To: daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com
>
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
> Hi all
>
> I got
the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
> been moved up
> to the front lobby at my business and is now a running
>
display. Check
> out the photos on my flicker site.
>
>
>
> Dennis Turk
>
>
>
------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo!
Groups Links
>
>
>
|
Re: 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi Dennis
Beautiful job. I didn't know there was a collet attachment. Interesting.
On another note, I bought a Dalton B-4 with latest patent date 1917 for a song. Are you the go to guy for parts (change gears) and rebuild advice.
Nothing serious as she is in beautiful condition but I will need the gears and advice on how to mount the jack shaft. another winter project among many others.
Thanks
Larry
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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...> wrote: From: Dennis Turk <dennis.turk2@...>
Subject: [daltonlathes] 1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
To: daltonlathes@...
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 6:44 PM
Hi all
I got the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has
been moved up
to the front lobby at my business and is now a running
display. Check
out the photos on my flicker site.
Dennis Turk
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1922 Lot 5 Dalton now on display
Hi all
I got the 1922 Dalton's restoration complete and it has been moved up
to the front lobby at my business and is now a running display. Check
out the photos on my flicker site.
Dennis Turk
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Dear Dennis,
Wow, thank you for the history lesson. I had no idea. I didn't think
the gray was original. This is the real shiny, hard coat you see on
most old machines then? I think I have seen old machinery with this
not quite paint, black coating. Almost like an epoxy paint, but not
quite. Thanks again.
Dan Lane
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Hi Dan
?
Like all machines built up to about 1932 the
Daltons were coated with Japanning.? This is not paint but more of a
mineral based coating.? It consist of 2 parts pure gum turpentine 2 parts
boiled linseed oil and 1 part powdered asphalt or asphaltum as it was known
as.? Some added a little pine tree rosin as a hardener.? The
turpentine dissolved the powdered asphalt and was also the pigment that gave the
mix the black color.? This was brushed on individual parts then left to air
dry over a two day period.? In that time the Japanning would lay out dead
flat and would fill all the casting flaws and pits and voids.? This one
thing is what distinguishes japanning from paint as no one? has ever made
paint act like japanning.? After air drying the parts would go through
three or four baking's with temperatures going all the way up to 350 to 400
degrees.? Some times I am told that in-between baking's the parts mite be
rubbed with pumas powder to smooth them.? Singer Sawing machines you see
that are black this is not paint as Singer was the masters of the japanning
art.? Singer continued to use japanning up into the late
fifties.
?
Japanning has a luster and caricature to it that I
have never been able to replicate with paint.? I get close but no
cigar.
?
Turk
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 4:49
AM
Subject: [daltonlathes] Re: TL
apron
--- In daltonlathes@yahoogroups.com,
"Dennis Turk" ...>
wrote:
>
> Hi
all
>
> Today I received a complete TL Dalton apron. Kind of
grunge but in
> original finish and complete and in nice shape. A
fellow offered it
to
> me for free and would not even let me pay
the shipping. Soooooo if
> anyone needs a TL apron or parts to one let
me know as I will pass
this
> find on to who ever needs it or parts
to it. First come first gets
it.
>
> Dennis
Turk
>
Hey Dennis,
I was wondering, what is the original
finish? Mine is battle ship
gray. Thanks.
Dan
Lane
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--- In daltonlathes@..., "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
Hi all
Today I received a complete TL Dalton apron. Kind of grunge but in
original finish and complete and in nice shape. A fellow offered it
to me for free and would not even let me pay the shipping. Soooooo if
anyone needs a TL apron or parts to one let me know as I will pass this find on to who ever needs it or parts to it. First come first gets it.
Dennis Turk
Hey Dennis, I was wondering, what is the original finish? Mine is battle ship gray. Thanks. Dan Lane
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Hi all
Today I received a complete TL Dalton apron. Kind of grunge but in
original finish and complete and in nice shape. A fellow offered it to
me for free and would not even let me pay the shipping. Soooooo if
anyone needs a TL apron or parts to one let me know as I will pass this
find on to who ever needs it or parts to it. First come first gets it.
Dennis Turk
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I Ralph Lets try dennis.turk2 at verizon.net Turk --- In daltonlathes@..., "Dennis Turk" <dennis.turk2@...> wrote:
Hi Ralph
I cant seam to open the picture file. Can you send it to me at
dennis.turk2@...
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Ferone
To: daltonlathes@...
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Hmmm.. now I know what you mean about two piece... My change gear
cover apparently is two piece and has a different upper piece, that accomodates a guard for a quick change collet operator. I can't seem to locate my lower door right now, but it is missing a chunk out of it. I wouldn't mind a standard upper piece, since I doubt I'll be using the quick release collet adapter.
The guard over the back gear/spindle would look like the one in
the referenced picture.
Thanks, Ralph
Ralph Ferone wrote:
Mine looks like this one...
?b=1
My serial number is 371
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Sorry Ralph I forgot to ask does your lathe use the one piece
or two piece back gear guard and is the end door a two piece or one piece?
Turk
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Turk
To: daltonlathes@...
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Hi Ralph.
I will take a look tomorrow and see what I can come up with.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Ferone
To: daltonlathes@...
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Dennis,
I could use a cover for the change gears and also the
guard over the the left end of the back gear/spindle for the 7-1/4" lathe.
Thanks, Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of
Dalton's at the Turk works in Oregon. If any of you have a specific need of parts please email me and I will see if I can find what you need. I have maybe 10 lathes that I would consider parts lathes so fee free to ask. Yes I do have a few extra change gears but darn few as I haves sold off most of my extras long ago.
Dennis Turk
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Hi Ralph
?
I cant seam to open the picture file.? Can you
send it to me at dennis.turk2@....
?
Thanks.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:16
PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare
parts
Hmmm.. now I know what you
mean about two piece... My change gear cover apparently is two piece and has a
different upper piece, that accomodates a guard for a quick change
collet? operator. I can't seem to locate my lower door right now, but it
is missing a chunk out of it.? I wouldn't mind a standard upper piece,
since I doubt I'll be using the quick release collet adapter.
The guard
over the back gear/spindle would look like the one in the referenced
picture.
Thanks, Ralph
Ralph Ferone wrote:
Mine looks like this
one...
My
serial number is 371
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Sorry Ralph I forgot to ask does your lathe
use the one piece or two piece back gear guard and is the end door a two
piece or one piece?
?
Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Hi Ralph.
?
I will take a look tomorrow and see what I
can come up with.
?
Dennis
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Dennis,
I could
use a cover for the change gears and also the guard over the the left
end of the back gear/spindle for the? 7-1/4"
lathe.
Thanks, Ralph
?
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of
Dalton's at the Turk
works in Oregon. If any of you have a
specific need of parts please
email me and I will see if I can
find what you need. I have maybe 10
lathes that I would consider
parts lathes so fee free to ask. Yes I do
have a few extra
change gears but darn few as I haves sold off most of
my extras
long ago.
Dennis Turk
|
Hmmm.. now I know what you
mean about two piece... My change gear cover apparently is two piece
and has a different upper piece, that accomodates a guard for a quick
change collet? operator. I can't seem to locate my lower door right
now, but it is missing a chunk out of it.? I wouldn't mind a standard
upper piece, since I doubt I'll be using the quick release collet
adapter.
The guard over the back gear/spindle would look like the one in the
referenced picture.
Thanks, Ralph
Ralph Ferone wrote:
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Mine looks like this
one...
My serial number is 371
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
Sorry Ralph I forgot to ask does
your lathe use the one piece or two piece back gear guard and is the
end door a two piece or one piece?
?
Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Hi Ralph.
?
I will take a look tomorrow and
see what I can come up with.
?
Dennis
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Dennis,
I could use a cover for the change gears and also the guard over the
the left end of the back gear/spindle for the? 7-1/4" lathe.
Thanks, Ralph
?
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of Dalton's at the Turk
works in Oregon. If any of you have a specific need of parts please
email me and I will see if I can find what you need. I have maybe 10
lathes that I would consider parts lathes so fee free to ask. Yes I do
have a few extra change gears but darn few as I haves sold off most of
my extras long ago.
Dennis Turk
|
Mine looks like this one...
My serial number is 371
Ralph
Dennis Turk wrote:
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Show quoted text
Sorry Ralph I forgot to ask does
your lathe use the one piece or two piece back gear guard and is the
end door a two piece or one piece?
?
Turk
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Hi Ralph.
?
I will take a look tomorrow and
see what I can come up with.
?
Dennis
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject:
Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare parts
Dennis,
I could use a cover for the change gears and also the guard over the
the left end of the back gear/spindle for the? 7-1/4" lathe.
Thanks, Ralph
?
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of Dalton's at the Turk
works in Oregon. If any of you have a specific need of parts please
email me and I will see if I can find what you need. I have maybe 10
lathes that I would consider parts lathes so fee free to ask. Yes I do
have a few extra change gears but darn few as I haves sold off most of
my extras long ago.
Dennis Turk
|
Sorry Ralph I forgot to ask does your lathe use the
one piece or two piece back gear guard and is the end door a two piece or one
piece?
?
Turk
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare
parts
Hi Ralph.
?
I will take a look tomorrow and see what I can
come up with.
?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41
PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton
spare parts
Dennis,
I could use a
cover for the change gears and also the guard over the the left end of the
back gear/spindle for the? 7-1/4" lathe.
Thanks,
Ralph
?
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of Dalton's
at the Turk
works in Oregon. If any of you have a specific need of
parts please
email me and I will see if I can find what you need. I
have maybe 10
lathes that I would consider parts lathes so fee free to
ask. Yes I do
have a few extra change gears but darn few as I haves
sold off most of
my extras long ago.
Dennis
Turk
|
Hi Ralph.
?
I will take a look tomorrow and see what I can come
up with.
?
Dennis
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Show quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [daltonlathes] Dalton spare
parts
Dennis,
I could use a
cover for the change gears and also the guard over the the left end of the
back gear/spindle for the? 7-1/4" lathe.
Thanks,
Ralph
?
Dennis Turk wrote:
Hi All
I am in the process of down sizing the heard of Dalton's at
the Turk
works in Oregon. If any of you have a specific need of parts
please
email me and I will see if I can find what you need. I have maybe
10
lathes that I would consider parts lathes so fee free to ask. Yes I
do
have a few extra change gears but darn few as I haves sold off most
of
my extras long ago.
Dennis Turk
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