My listening position is low...maybe a new armchair is needed...but not now.
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Depends on? your listening position,?I think. Try it and see how it sounds.?
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Not...I reversed my original stands with the lip to the front to tilt them....bad idea as the speakers were no longer beaming at ear level and sounded lifeless.
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Yes, curious too because when I put my 10s on top of the 1W subs, one thought was, am I adding in essentially a very large baffle board to the bottom, basically turning the DQ 10 inot a mega-elongated (vertically)? DQ 10. Thoughts?
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Thank you Dave.? I'm old enough that I didn't want to physically move
all four speakers.? You saved my back.? I really am a big time DQ-10 fan.
Your set-up must sound wonderful.
Durs
On June 6, 2020 at 4:13 PM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
Durs,
Here ya go buddy!
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Durs, Here ya go buddy! 
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Well with the subs and DQ 10¡¯s stacked they are as large as the Bozak Symphanies which are blocked out behind them!
Those DQ-10s make the dubs look small.? Here¡¯s what dq10¡¯s look like on top of sub woofer
Hello All
It may make sense to take a look at the miniDSP 2 x 4 as an economical cross over alternative: ?
?
Kool thank you!
I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
Johnny A.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick
I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over
the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
Richardson tx
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair
of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever
heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
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Those DQ-10s make the dubs look small.?
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On Jun 6, 2020, at 1:29 PM, dina hirsch <Rdajr1079@...> wrote:
? Here¡¯s what dq10¡¯s look like on top of sub woofer
Hello All
It may make sense to take a look at the miniDSP 2 x 4 as an economical cross over alternative: ?
?
Kool thank you!
I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
Johnny A.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick
I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over
the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
Richardson tx
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair
of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever
heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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I have my DQ 10¡¯s sitting on top of subs , toed in slightly to my position. It just occurred to me that perhaps tilting in might screw with timing of phased array ? Thought?
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Here¡¯s what dq10¡¯s look like on top of sub woofer
Hello All
It may make sense to take a look at the miniDSP 2 x 4 as an economical cross over alternative: ?
?
Kool thank you!
I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
Johnny A.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick
I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over
the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
Richardson tx
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair
of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever
heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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Here¡¯s what dq10¡¯s look like on top of sub woofer
Hello All
It may make sense to take a look at the miniDSP 2 x 4 as an economical cross over alternative: ?
?
Kool thank you!
I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
Johnny A.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick
I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over
the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
Richardson tx
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair
of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever
heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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Hello All
It may make sense to take a look at the miniDSP 2 x 4 as an economical cross over alternative: ?
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On Jun 5, 2020, at 7:45 PM, MUDDFISH via groups.io <muddfish@...> wrote:
?
Kool thank you!
I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
Johnny A.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick
<rdwng99@...> wrote:
I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over
the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
Richardson tx
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair
of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever
heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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Kool thank you! I never co considered the same part with newer tech it is something g I would consider? now.
Best
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick <rdwng99@...> wrote: I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.? ?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A Richardson tx On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.? ?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A Richardson tx On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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I¡¯m unsure which Burr-Brown op amp Regnar uses; however, I¡¯m going to use new op amps of the same ?part number that¡¯s in the unit. The new op amps will be much better made with the advances in technology as well as more refined as its been revised over the years.?
I¡¯m still curious which op amp they use, but I can¡¯t see sending in my lp1 and paying $320 plus shipping for work I can do at probably 25% of the cost.?
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On Jun 5, 2020, at 4:46 PM, MUDDFISH via groups.io <muddfish@...> wrote:
?What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A Richardson tx On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig <durs@...> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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What is the burr Brown opamp that is a simple drop in? replacement everyone is using. I recapped everything? about 6 years ago on the lp1 but never touch the 5 opamp
Part# would be appreciated?
Johnny? A
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:39 AM, Durs Koenig <durs@...> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I love your idea of setting the DQ-10's on top of the DQ-1W's.
May I trouble you for a picture of your speakers please?
Durs Koenig
Forestville, CA
On June 5, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dave Smith <soldershack@...> wrote:
I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
?
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The LP-1 and DQ-10 in stock form are two of the finest designs ever. The MX and subs are unfortunately not in the same arena. Since your dealing with sub frequencies the stock op-amps are perfectly suitable. The oem jacks are usually serviceable as long as you resolder them. The electrolytic caps should be replaced or at least closely checked on an ESR meter. The OEM values are fine. The blue film caps are generally also still serviceable. Again we are dealing with sub frequencies here. The 6db cap is of upmost importance since it deals with the mids and highs. So save your money and start with NOS Russian milspec teflon's. Once you try those you may decide to avoid all the usual mass marketing bling. As for any plate amp sub under the sun. Don't even waste your time. Just go with the LP1 and it's the end of the story.?
I concur with your assessment of the Adcom as a bass amp. The bridged DH 500¡¯s must produce a huge soundstage with all that power (I assume you have the bridging card for these). Power matters to get the best sound from the hungry DQ10¡®S. ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of w e
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DahlquistSpeakers] DQ LP1 and DQ-1w ? Dave - what you describe here is exactly my system ( 2 10's,? 2 DQ 1W's one their sides puts the 10's at a great listening level, and an LP1). I'm using two Hafler DH500's to power the 10's, and an Adcom 555 (the orignal Nelson Pass design, not later versions) for the subs. Why these amps? They were cheap and are good. Plain and simple. I don't require more.?
If I que up the last track from Hans Zimmers "The Dark Knight" and turn it up, the entire neighborhood trembles in fear.
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I concur with your assessment of the Adcom as a bass amp. The bridged DH 500¡¯s must produce a huge soundstage with all that power (I assume you have the bridging card for these). Power matters to get the best sound from the hungry DQ10¡®S. ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of w e
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DahlquistSpeakers] DQ LP1 and DQ-1w ? Dave - what you describe here is exactly my system ( 2 10's,? 2 DQ 1W's one their sides puts the 10's at a great listening level, and an LP1). I'm using two Hafler DH500's to power the 10's, and an Adcom 555 (the orignal Nelson Pass design, not later versions) for the subs. Why these amps? They were cheap and are good. Plain and simple. I don't require more.?
If I que up the last track from Hans Zimmers "The Dark Knight" and turn it up, the entire neighborhood trembles in fear.
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165 wpc is far from overkill but that¡¯s only one part of the real ?issue I see here. While the SX1250 ?is a fine vintage receiver in of itself, it is a poor choice for a sub amp. It just doesn¡¯t have the damping and control to achieve a tight accurate low end. I highly recommend a big bipolar SS amp like the Bryston 4 series, Adcom 555, Crown DC300 (a great bass amp if you can find one in good condition), or a big Krell if you can afford it. There will be a world of difference in performance ¨C I know this from personal experience. ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dina hirsch
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DahlquistSpeakers] DQ LP1 and DQ-1w ? Pioneer sx1250 amp 165wpc kind of over kill?? ? Hi Richard Curious in what amps you are using to push the ?DQ subs? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of richard adelberg
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DahlquistSpeakers] DQ LP1 and DQ-1w ? Two subs, lp1, restoration , two sub amps... equals how much in dollars? I bet I have 1k in two subs, lp1, sub amps . So I have that set up running through one speaker outlet b. Then a Polk 12@ 300 w via speaker c. I can compare. Even with polk set at 60hz and less then half vol it produces far deeper, louder, and tighter bass ?for 459.00 I¡¯m a purest so I like to use dahlquist system but dollar for dollar the 65 yrs progress renders the factory system inferior sound wise. I also redid the dq10 xo with clarity caps and mills resistors. That made a sig improvement to the mid and high end. Less grating to my ears. Parts cost about 250.00 to redo both.? ? I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
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Pioneer sx1250 amp 165wpc kind of over kill??
Hi Richard Curious in what amps you are using to push the ?DQ subs? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of richard adelberg
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DahlquistSpeakers] DQ LP1 and DQ-1w ? Two subs, lp1, restoration , two sub amps... equals how much in dollars? I bet I have 1k in two subs, lp1, sub amps . So I have that set up running through one speaker outlet b. Then a Polk 12@ 300 w via speaker c. I can compare. Even with polk set at 60hz and less then half vol it produces far deeper, louder, and tighter bass ?for 459.00 I¡¯m a purest so I like to use dahlquist system but dollar for dollar the 65 yrs progress renders the factory system inferior sound wise. I also redid the dq10 xo with clarity caps and mills resistors. That made a sig improvement to the mid and high end. Less grating to my ears. Parts cost about 250.00 to redo both.? ? I've had great results by simply replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the 30+ year old LP-1 with nice new Sprague audio quality capacitors. It's easy to do if you can desolder and solder PC boards. I also put Burr-Brown opamps in. My system uses a pair of WOPL 700b amps. I blow a fuse now and then but I get couch shaking bass that's tight and clean. I sit my two DQ-1W's on their sides and use them to support my DQ-10's instead of the original speaker stands. It's the best sounding stereo system I've ever heard...I'm coming up on 68 years old and I've got my system done.
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