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Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I'm sorry.
I did not know that DXLab@groups.io could not send attachments.
+ No problem, Shige!
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PC(DXLabCommander):USB A port?[USB cable]?IC-7600:USB B port
PC(DXLabCommander):USB A port?CT-18(interface)?[REMOTE cable]?IC-PW1:Remote socket
IC-7600:ACC-2 socket?[ACC cable]?IC-PW1:ACC-1 socket
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Does this tell you the status of the connection between my radio and my PC?
The PC, IC-7600, and IC-PW1 are connected like this.
In this state, IC-PW1 cannot be controlled well
+ That configuration is not supported because it does not prevent the PW1 from encountering CI-V bus collisions, which can mangle frequency packets and cause the PW1 to transmit on an unexpected frequency.? Dave W6DE will help you establish the correct connectivity and configure Commander appropriately.

? ? ? ?73,

? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

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?Joe, W6TV, Dave AA6YQ, and Dave, W6DE

I'm sorry.
I did not know that DXLab@groups.io could not send attachments.

PC(DXLabCommander):USB A port?[USB cable]?IC-7600:USB B port
PC(DXLabCommander):USB A port?CT-18(interface)?[REMOTE cable]?IC-PW1:Remote socket
IC-7600:ACC-2 socket?[ACC cable]?IC-PW1:ACC-1 socket

Does this tell you the status of the connection between my radio and my PC?
The PC, IC-7600, and IC-PW1 are connected like this.
In this state, IC-PW1 cannot be controlled well.

Shige, JJ1BCM
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

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I am taking this discussion off line.? I will post a summary if this discussion works out.

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave w6de via groups.io
Sent: 20 March, 2025 19:07
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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As noted by Joe, W6TV, Dave AA6YQ, and myself W6DE, you can not share a single CIV connection with both a 7600 and a PW1 on that single CIV connection.?

Dave, AA6YQ is telling you the PW1 does not behave properly on a CIV connection and you need a separate CIV connection to only the PW1 from your computer to your PW1 to properly handle the bad behavior from the PW1.

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Shigeru Ohsawa via groups.io
Sent: 20 March, 2025 09:17
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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Dave, W6DE

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As shown in the attached figure, the PC is connected to the IC-7600 and the IC-PW1.
I cannot control IC-PW1 well in this condition.

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Shige, JJ1BCM

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件名:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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You will need a second CIV connection path for DXLab Commander running in the computer to communicate with the PW1.? Do you have a second CT-18 or other way to connect your computer to the PW1??

See the connection diagram in this article.

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From:?DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io
Sent:?19 March, 2025 23:07
To:?DXLab@groups.io
Subject:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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Thank you, Dave.

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>Leave the PW1 address at 71 and the 7600 address at 7A.

IC-PW1 address at 74(DXLab's “Controlling an Icom PW1 Amplifier” instructs to set the address of IC-PW1 to 74.).

IC-7600 address at 7A.

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>With the accessory cable and CIV cables directly connected between the PW1 and the 7600 can you successfully Sync the PW1 and 7600 together?

IC-7600 controls IC-PW1 perfectly.

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Shige, JJ1BCM

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Re: Populating maps with log data?

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
Is there a way to populate one of the DXLab maps with log records?? I am wondering whether worked or confirmed DXCC entities or zones can be illustrated on associated maps.? I have DX Atlas.
+ Yes. See



+ and



+ and



? ? ?73,

? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
Populating maps with log data?

 

Is there a way to populate one of the DXLab maps with log records?? I am wondering whether worked or confirmed DXCC entities or zones can be illustrated on associated maps.? I have DX Atlas.

Thanks??
Rich, NU6T
Re: My last 12 OSO's would not upload to Lotw

 

# more AA6YQ comments below
It was the propagation window.? Somehow internet was in that window.? I must have done that but did not realize it.? Anyway all is well now.

?+ The error message " Invalid prop mode (internet) on line 5 " came from TQSL when it was processing the QSOs that DXKeeper directed it to submit to LoTW - not from DXKeeper. Thus there is no errorlog.txt file in your DXKeeper folder.
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There is no such thing as an "Internet" QSO as far as logbook is concerned.? However, IRLP and Echolink are allowed. Go figure.
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# ADIF defines an INTERNET propagation mode:

http://adif.org.uk/ADIF_Current#Propagation_Mode_Enumeration


# This choice is available in DXKeeper's "Propagation Mode" selector. It could also be selected in an imported QSO.

????? 73,

??????????? Dave AA6YQ
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

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As noted by Joe, W6TV, Dave AA6YQ, and myself W6DE, you can not share a single CIV connection with both a 7600 and a PW1 on that single CIV connection.?

Dave, AA6YQ is telling you the PW1 does not behave properly on a CIV connection and you need a separate CIV connection to only the PW1 from your computer to your PW1 to properly handle the bad behavior from the PW1.

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73,

Dave, w6de

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From: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of Shigeru Ohsawa via groups.io
Sent: 20 March, 2025 09:17
To: DXLab@groups.io
Subject: Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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Dave, W6DE

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As shown in the attached figure, the PC is connected to the IC-7600 and the IC-PW1.
I cannot control IC-PW1 well in this condition.

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Shige, JJ1BCM

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件名:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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You will need a second CIV connection path for DXLab Commander running in the computer to communicate with the PW1.? Do you have a second CT-18 or other way to connect your computer to the PW1??

See the connection diagram in this article.

?

73,

Dave, w6de

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From:?DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io
Sent:?19 March, 2025 23:07
To:?DXLab@groups.io
Subject:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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Thank you, Dave.

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>Leave the PW1 address at 71 and the 7600 address at 7A.

IC-PW1 address at 74(DXLab's “Controlling an Icom PW1 Amplifier” instructs to set the address of IC-PW1 to 74.).

IC-7600 address at 7A.

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>With the accessory cable and CIV cables directly connected between the PW1 and the 7600 can you successfully Sync the PW1 and 7600 together?

IC-7600 controls IC-PW1 perfectly.

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Shige, JJ1BCM

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Re: My last 12 OSO's would not upload to Lotw

 

On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:14?AM Dave AA6YQ via <aa6yq=ambersoft.com@groups.io> wrote:
+ AA6YQ comments below
It was the propagation window.? Somehow internet was in that window.? I must have done that but did not realize it.? Anyway all is well now.

?+ The error message " Invalid prop mode (internet) on line 5 " came from TQSL when it was processing the QSOs that DXKeeper directed it to submit to LoTW - not from DXKeeper. Thus there is no errorlog.txt file in your DXKeeper folder.

There is no such thing as an "Internet" QSO as far as logbook is concerned.? However, IRLP and Echolink are allowed. Go figure.

73,
? ? -Rick
--
Rick Murphy, D. Sc., CISSP-ISSAP, K1MU/4, Annandale VA USA
Re: My last 12 OSO's would not upload to Lotw

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
It was the propagation window. ?Somehow internet was in that window. ?I must have done that but did not realize it. ?Anyway all is well now.

?+ The error message " Invalid prop mode (internet) on line 5 " came from TQSL when it was processing the QSOs that DXKeeper directed it to submit to LoTW - not from DXKeeper. Thus there is no errorlog.txt file in your DXKeeper folder.

? ? ? ? 73,
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

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+ AA6YQ comments below

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A direct connection between transceiver and amplifier is not supported by DXLab Suite.? If you are using that connection, please seek help from Icom or one of the Icom support lists.

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+ The PW1 fails to comply with Icom's CI-V bus specification. Like the Ethernet, the collisions can occur on the CI-V bus. However, the PW1 does not properly detect and recover from collisions.

+ With an Icom transceiver connect to a PW1 via a CI-V bus, no collisions occur.

+ With an Icom transceiver connected to a PW1 and a PC Com port managed by a transceiver control application like Commander, collisions can occur. Because it does not properly handle collisions, the PW1 can transmit on the wrong frequency, which can result in serious damage to the PW1. This is described in detail in this document developed by Larry K8UT:

/www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Riding%20the%20CI-V%20Bus%20by%20K8UT.pdf

+ Commander's Secondary Com port enables provides a dedicated CI-V bus for the PW1 on which no collisions can occur, thus preventing damage to the amplifier. It has been successfully employed by many PW1 users.

????? ??73,

?????????????? Dave,

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Re: My last 12 OSO's would not upload to Lotw

 

It was the propagation window. ?Somehow internet was in that window. ?I must have done that but did not realize it. ?Anyway all is well now. ?
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Thanks so much.
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Al ?KA9OUT
Re: Prefix/Call not transferred to DXKeeper

 

+ AA6YQ comments below

THANKS, I searched for that option and never saw it.... I made up that call as an example only.

+ See



73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

Attachments are not conveyed here due the limitations of the free list.

A direct connection between transceiver and amplifier is not supported
by DXLab Suite. If you are using that connection, please seek help
from Icom or one of the Icom support lists.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-03-20 4:55 AM, Shigeru Ohsawa via groups.io wrote:
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差出人: DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> が Joe Subich, W4TV via groups.io <lists@...> の代理で送信
送信日时: 2025年3月20日 11:52
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件名: Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander
On 2025-03-19 10:06 PM, ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io wrote:

> Is this connection method not acceptable?
No, it is not. For DXLab Suite to control a PW-1 you must use the
following configuration:
<>
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 2025-03-19 10:06 PM, ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io wrote:
Dave, W6DE

One is from IC-7600 (REMOTE terminal) to CT-18 to connect to PC. The other is to connect IC-7600 and PC with USB cable.
Is this connection method not acceptable?

Shige, JJ1BCM

Joe, W4TV
My explanation was not adequate.
As shown in the attached diagram, the PC is connected to the IC-7600 and IC-PW1.
In this state, IC-PW1 cannot be controlled well.
Shige,JJ1BCM
Re: Prefix/Call not transferred to DXKeeper

 

THANKS, I searched for that option and never saw it.... I made up that call as an example only.
73
Den
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

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Dave, W6DE

As shown in the attached figure, the PC is connected to the IC-7600 and the IC-PW1.
I cannot control IC-PW1 well in this condition.

Shige, JJ1BCM

差出人:?DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> が Dave w6de via groups.io <w6de@...> の代理で送信
送信日时:?2025年3月20日 8:44
宛先:?DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io>
件名:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander
?

You will need a second CIV connection path for DXLab Commander running in the computer to communicate with the PW1.? Do you have a second CT-18 or other way to connect your computer to the PW1??

See the connection diagram in this article.

?

73,

Dave, w6de

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From:?DXLab@groups.io <DXLab@groups.io> On Behalf Of ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io
Sent:?19 March, 2025 23:07
To:?DXLab@groups.io
Subject:?Re: [DXLab] IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

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Thank you, Dave.

?

>Leave the PW1 address at 71 and the 7600 address at 7A.

IC-PW1 address at 74(DXLab's “Controlling an Icom PW1 Amplifier” instructs to set the address of IC-PW1 to 74.).

IC-7600 address at 7A.

?

>With the accessory cable and CIV cables directly connected between the PW1 and the 7600 can you successfully Sync the PW1 and 7600 together?

IC-7600 controls IC-PW1 perfectly.

?

Shige, JJ1BCM

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Re: Prefix/Call not transferred to DXKeeper

 

+ AA6YQ comments below

Double clicking a call in SpotCollector with a prefix/call sign eg. FY/X8WW shows up in the DXKeeper filter box as X8WW but.... does show up in Capture as FY/X8WW with the prefix DXCC (FY) and is logged as FY/X8WW.
While it is nice to know I worked the base call before I also have interest in knowing if I have worked the prefix DX before.

Is this something that can be changed so the entire call is used to filter DXKeeper not just the 'base' call? Perhaps a toggle between the two?

+ There's a "Log Filter" panel in the middle of SpotCollector's Configuration window's General tab.

+ With this panel set to "Call", then if you double-click a Spot Database Entry of the form X/Y or Y/X where X designates the station's DXCC entity and Y is the base callsign, then DXKeeper will be directed to filter its Log Page Display to show all previous QSOs with Y, and with callsigns in which Y is the base callsign. For example, when I double-click a Spot Database Entry for VE3/UT3UA, DXKeeper shows my logged QSOs with UT3UA, TA2/UT3UA, and VE3/UT3UA.

+ If SpotCollector's "Log Filter" panel is set to "Entity" and you double-click a Spot Database Entry of the form X/Y or Y/X where X designates the station's DXCC entity and Y is the base callsign, then DXKeeper will be directed to filter its Log Page Display to show all previous QSOs with the DXCC entity designated by X.

+ By the way, it's FY/PY8WW that is currently QRV.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Re: My last 12 OSO's would not upload to Lotw

 

+ AA6YQ comments below

When I submit most requested I get a blank window. If I try to upload manually I get a message that no QSO's were submitted because some QSO's were already uploaded or invalid. Of course checking Lotw shows none of the 12 were submitted? If I look at what should have been uploaded I see a message that says Invalid prop mode (internet) on line 5 ? This all started on March 16th. I did submit for a new TQSL for our club station on March 14. When I look at TQSL certificates it still shows that my certificate is active and usable. Each TQSL is under its own call sign.

+ Please attach the errorlog.txt file from your DXKeeper folder to an email message, and send the message to me via

aa6yq (at) ambersoft.com


73,

Dave, AA6YQ
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

On 2025-03-19 10:06 PM, ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io wrote:

Is this connection method not acceptable?
No, it is not. For DXLab Suite to control a PW-1 you must use the
following configuration:
<>

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-03-19 10:06 PM, ji8bxb.jj1bcm.shige via groups.io wrote:
Dave, W6DE
One is from IC-7600 (REMOTE terminal) to CT-18 to connect to PC. The other is to connect IC-7600 and PC with USB cable.
Is this connection method not acceptable?
Shige, JJ1BCM
Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

Dave, W6DE
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One is from IC-7600 (REMOTE terminal) to CT-18 to connect to PC. The other is to connect IC-7600 and PC with USB cable.
Is this connection method not acceptable?
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Shige, JJ1BCM
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Re: IC-PW1 configuration in DXLabCommander

 

Dave, W6DE
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I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail that I have set the menu “CI-V Transceive ON” on the IC-7600. Otherwise, IC-7600 cannot control IC-PW1. (It is written in the ICOM manual).
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>Now connect your computer to the 7600 and connect your CT-18 up to the 7600 and use DXLab Commander to control the 7600—still ignoring the PW1, don’t connect the 7600 to the PW1 with the accessory or CIV cables.??Can you now control the 7600 from Commander?
IC-7600 ? CT-18 (CI-V interface) ? PC (DXLab Commander), this connection allows DXLab Commander to control IC-7600.
The “Command Interval (ms)” is set to [100]. If it is smaller than that, the CI-V indicator lights up.
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I am using the following connection to use WSJT-X.
IC-7600 ? USB cable ? PC (DXLab Commander), This connection also allows DXLab Commander to control the IC-7600.
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Shige, JJ1BCM　
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