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Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

Joe,?
I think you have the best solution.? I have been printing the email "telegram" and then hitting delete.? Better not to respond in any way.? My QRZ page is clear about?what I will and won't accept for confirmation.? I won't remove my email address because it is legitimately useful for my purposes but to answer any of these emails is just inviting trouble.? I have not yet determined if any of these match actual QSOs so from now, I'm not going to bother printing them for future research.? I hope everyone will come to a solution to this issue.? I continue to use LOTW, Buro cards, and direct cards.? With cost of mailing going up even Buro and direct is getting too burdensome.? If ARRL would accept other sources as confirmation I'd consider them.

73,

Guy K4CNF

On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 3:59?PM Joe Subich, W4TV via <lists=[email protected]> wrote:


On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:

> There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move
> emails from designated sources to SPAM .
The damage is done before the delete key can be used.? Lacking a
"bounce" a commercial e-mail generator can assume the address is,
at least, valid.? Filters require reviewing anything in "SPAM" to
confirm the filter is not triggering falsely on valid e-mail and
that opens one to hidden payloads.

Unsolicited commercial e-mail is, arguably, an illegal invasion
of one's privacy and everything should be done to discourage such
activity.? If one really wants a confirmation they can mail a
physical card or use LotW ... or, forbid, send a personal e-mail.

73,

? ? ... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
> Joe, W4TV wrote, in part:
>
> Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
> member directory (with e-mail) ...
>
> That would be great, Joe. Unfortunately not everyone belongs to ARRL (and
> more are leaving...I wonder why!),
> and its highly unlikely ARRL would provide such a service to us sorters.
> ARRL has indicated its funding for the
> incoming buro is living on borrowed time.
>
> There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move emails
> from designated sources to SPAM .
>
> 73
> ---
> Ted? ?WA3AER
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 3:28?PM Joe Subich, W4TV via <lists=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
>>
>>>? From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
>>> provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
>>> enter it.
>> Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
>> member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
>> expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
>> e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.
>>
>> In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
>> (with current address) on file with the bureau.? We certainly did
>> not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
>> with the 8th area bureau.? In the worst case a post card to the
>> station's Callbook address was sufficient.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>? ? ? ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>> On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
>>> I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
>>> There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
>>> electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
>>> on how to handle them.
>>>? ?From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide
>> an
>>> email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> ---
>>> Ted? ?WA3AER
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via <kd5xb=
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
>>>> top of the bio?? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
>>>> workers to get the info?
>>>>
>>>> Earl / KD5XB
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Proton Mail Android
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Juergen wrote, in part:
>>>> looks as if they all use the email-information given in (for
>>>> sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email
>> information in
>>>> qrz. <>
>>>>
>>>> As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
>>>> taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate
>> with
>>>> buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is
>> to
>>>> waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to
>> be a
>>>> big expense after a while.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> ---
>>>> Ted? ?WA3AER
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ---
>>>> Ted? ?WA3AER
>>>>
>>>>








DB records

 

Greetings to all!
The number of??Spot Database Entries??as shown in configuration spot database tab, does it count?unique callsigns of spots or not?
Is there a way to prune DB by keeping a specific amount of unique callsigns?
?
TKS!
73 de SV1CDN, Dennis!


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move
emails from designated sources to SPAM .
The damage is done before the delete key can be used. Lacking a
"bounce" a commercial e-mail generator can assume the address is,
at least, valid. Filters require reviewing anything in "SPAM" to
confirm the filter is not triggering falsely on valid e-mail and
that opens one to hidden payloads.

Unsolicited commercial e-mail is, arguably, an illegal invasion
of one's privacy and everything should be done to discourage such
activity. If one really wants a confirmation they can mail a
physical card or use LotW ... or, forbid, send a personal e-mail.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-05-01 3:37 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:
Joe, W4TV wrote, in part:
Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) ...
That would be great, Joe. Unfortunately not everyone belongs to ARRL (and
more are leaving...I wonder why!),
and its highly unlikely ARRL would provide such a service to us sorters.
ARRL has indicated its funding for the
incoming buro is living on borrowed time.
There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move emails
from designated sources to SPAM .
73
---
Ted WA3AER
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 3:28?PM Joe Subich, W4TV via groups.io <lists=
[email protected]> wrote:



On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
enter it.
Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.

In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
(with current address) on file with the bureau. We certainly did
not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
with the 8th area bureau. In the worst case a post card to the
station's Callbook address was sufficient.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:
I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
on how to handle them.
From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide
an
email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.

73
---
Ted WA3AER

On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via groups.io <kd5xb=
[email protected]> wrote:

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
top of the bio? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android


-------- Original Message --------
On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for
sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email
information in
qrz. <>

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate
with
buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is
to
waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to
be a
big expense after a while.

73
---
Ted WA3AER

--
---
Ted WA3AER


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

Joe, W4TV wrote, in part:

Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail)?...

That would be great, Joe. Unfortunately not everyone belongs to ARRL (and more are leaving...I wonder why!),
and its highly unlikely ARRL would provide such a service to us sorters. ARRL has indicated its funding for the?
incoming buro is living on borrowed time.

There's always the DELETE key; or one could set up filters to move emails from designated sources to SPAM .

73?
---
Ted ? WA3AER


On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 3:28?PM Joe Subich, W4TV via <lists=[email protected]> wrote:


On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:

> From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
> provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
> enter it.
Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.

In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
(with current address) on file with the bureau.? We certainly did
not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
with the 8th area bureau.? In the worst case a post card to the
station's Callbook address was sufficient.

73,

? ? ... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
> I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
> There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
> electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
> on how to handle them.
>? From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide an
> email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.
>
> 73
> ---
> Ted? ?WA3AER
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via <kd5xb=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
>> top of the bio?? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
>> workers to get the info?
>>
>> Earl / KD5XB
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail Android
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
>>
>> Juergen wrote, in part:
>> looks as if they all use the email-information given in (for
>> sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in
>> qrz. <>
>>
>> As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
>> taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with
>> buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to
>> waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a
>> big expense after a while.
>>
>> 73
>> ---
>> Ted? ?WA3AER
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> Ted? ?WA3AER
>>
>>








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---
Ted? ?WA3AER


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

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Thanks for the idea Jamie,

I did try that and it only identified the remaining two entities I need, P5 and YK.

Dave's link he sent is what I needed.? I'm trying to confirm the DXCC Challenge qso's

I appreciate the help.

Rich - N5ZC

On 5/1/2025 1:31 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote:

correct, and wasnt that the original question, how can I determine the 137 thats worked but not confirmed??


------ Original Message ------
From "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...>
Date 5/1/2025 12:34:53 PM
Subject Re: [DXLab] DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

+ AA6YQ comments below
Run the realtime award tracker, and only check worked¡­.
+ The DXCC tab of DXKeeper's "Realtime Award Tracking" window can be used to identify DXCC entities that are Worked but not confirmed.?

? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

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Thank you Dave,

Rich - N5ZC

On 5/1/2025 11:31 AM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:

+ AA6YQ comments below
I have 2453 confirmed dxcc challenge qso's and 2590 worked. A delta of 137.

What report can I run to identify the 137 qso's so I can attempt to get them confirmed. There may be more than 137 qso's as I probably have qso's with multiple stations for the same dxcc/band. This would be a good thing as it would give me multiple chances to confirm the dxcc/band.
+ Use DXKeeper's Need filter, as described here:



? ? ?73,

? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to
provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to
enter it.
Perhaps ARRL should provide legitimate bureau staff access to the
member directory (with e-mail) rather than require amateurs to
expose themselves to additional unsolicited commercial (spam)
e-mail in order to receive cards from the bureau.

In any case, e-mail should not be necessary if users keep envelopes
(with current address) on file with the bureau. We certainly did
not have access to e-mail 40 years ago when I was a letter manager
with the 8th area bureau. In the worst case a post card to the
station's Callbook address was sufficient.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 3:17 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:
I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the
electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice
on how to handle them.
From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide an
email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.
73
---
Ted WA3AER
On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via groups.io <kd5xb=
[email protected]> wrote:

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the
top of the bio? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau
workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android


-------- Original Message --------
On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:

Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for
sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in
qrz. <>

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not
taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with
buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to
waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a
big expense after a while.

73
---
Ted WA3AER

--
---
Ted WA3AER


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

On 2025-05-01 2:05 PM, dl8le wrote:
It looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in qrz.com it should be very likely that you will not receive any electronic qsl.
I removed my e-mail from QRZ several years ago (what was there was
significantly out of date) and receive very few "electronic QSLs"
(a.k.a "spam QSLs"). It also seems to limit the level of amateur
related marketing (spam) e-mail.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 2025-05-01 2:05 PM, dl8le wrote:
Majority of electronic qsl's I receive are not via QSL World (or using the N1ET tool) but from QSL Creator and those people which use the tool of PA4R. It looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in qrz.com it should be very likely that you will not receive any electronic qsl. This should work in addition to clicking on the unsubscribe links.
If eQSL would offer this service for a certain additional fee in addition to the existing eQSL service it should be possible to use those electronic qsl's also for the awards which accept eQSL (as the qso information is already available in eQSL, no need to present electronic qsl's). I don't download the images normally, only for some specific qso's confirmed via eQSL, therefore I am missing somehow the effort of the qsl designers, but that is the reality, at least for me. I am only using eQSL to be able to respond to SWLs which would need paper cards if eQSL would not exisit. The confirmation of other qso's is just a courtesy and easy to do via DXKeeper. This is very similar to the upload of qso's to qrz.com.
73
Juergen, DL8LE


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

I see a lot of entries w/o bio.
There have been lots of suggestions here about handling the electronic/email QSLs. Each has it's merit, and it's an individual choice on how to handle them.?
From where I sit, if you want cards from the buro, you need to provide an email address where QRZ.com provides the field for you to enter it.

73
---
Ted?? WA3AER

On Thu, May 1, 2025, 15:03 Earl Needham via <kd5xb=[email protected]> wrote:

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the top of the bio?? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android



-------- Original Message --------
On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via wrote:
Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in??(for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in?

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a big expense after a while.

73
---
Ted?? WA3AER

--
---
Ted? ?WA3AER


--
---
Ted? ?WA3AER


Re: Frequency Dependent Device output to Serial Port

 

On 2025-05-01 7:34 AM, Brian Rehmer via groups.io wrote:
I am trying to use my transceiver frequency that is captured by DxCommander with the Frequency Dependent Device to generate a Ascii string to output to a serial port.
Try using the SO2R serial port with O2RSP format. See:
../DXLab/Commander/Help/Configuration.htm
(Local copy of the Commander Help file).


73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2025-05-01 7:34 AM, Brian Rehmer via groups.io wrote:
I am trying to use my transceiver frequency that is captured by DxCommander with the Frequency Dependent Device to generate a Ascii string to output to a serial port.? I can get all the way to string generation, but cannot figure out how to direct it to a different serial port than the transceiver.? I see how to do it with the parallel port but want it to go out to serial port controlled antenna switch.
Thanks,
Brian
KC4KK


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

What if one would remove the email address and then put it close to the top of the bio?? Would that stop the email cards and still allow bureau workers to get the info?

Earl / KD5XB

Sent from Proton Mail Android



-------- Original Message --------
On 5/1/25 12:28 PM, Ted Bauer via groups.io wrote:
Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in??(for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in?

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a big expense after a while.

73
---
Ted?? WA3AER

--
---
Ted? ?WA3AER


Re: Interoperate with DXLab Applications - Getting data from SpotCollector

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
Looking for some help with a C# program in Visual Studio I am working on where I want to get the callsign from the SpotCollector for the spot that I have selected. The same concept that DXView gets the callsign to look up when a spot is selected.
+ When the user selects a Spot Database Entry, SpotCollector sends information from that Entry to DXKeeper, DXView, Pathfinder, and WinWarbler. This is not an extensible mechanism that can be used to send that information to other applications.
?
? ? ? ?73,
?
? ? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ


Interoperate with DXLab Applications - Getting data from SpotCollector

 

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Hi All

?

Looking for some help with a C# program in Visual Studio I am working on where I want to get the callsign from the SpotCollector for the spot that I have selected.? The same concept that DXView gets the callsign to look up when a spot is selected. I have read the ¡°Building Application that Interoperate with DXLab Application¡± webpage and downloaded the DXLab Test, CSharp.NET Sample and VB.New Sample.? I have used them to send data to commander to change the frequency and mode of my radio but I cannot figure out how to get data from Spot Collector.?

?

Can anyone point me in the right direction to help me with this.

?

Thanks in advance

?

Dave Pyle ¨C KW1DX

Hollis, NH

dave@...

?


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

+ AA6YQ comments below

correct, and wasnt that the original question, how can I determine the 137 thats worked but not confirmed?

+ The request was to identify the 137 unconfirmed QSOs, not 137 unconfirmed DXCC entities.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

correct, and wasnt that the original question, how can I determine the 137 thats worked but not confirmed??


------ Original Message ------
From "Dave AA6YQ" <aa6yq@...>
Date 5/1/2025 12:34:53 PM
Subject Re: [DXLab] DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

+ AA6YQ comments below
Run the realtime award tracker, and only check worked¡­.
+ The DXCC tab of DXKeeper's "Realtime Award Tracking" window can be used to identify DXCC entities that are Worked but not confirmed.?

? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

Juergen wrote, in part:
looks as if they all use the email-information given in??(for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in?

As a buro card sorter who relies on QRZ.com, I hope this advice is not taken to heart. We rely on QRZ to get email addresses to communicate with buro account holders! When there's no email address, the alternative is to waste postage and envelopes to try to contact buro users. That gets to be a big expense after a while.

73
---
Ted?? WA3AER

--
---
Ted? ?WA3AER


Re: Responding to Emailed QSLs

 

Majority of electronic qsl's I receive are not via QSL World (or using the N1ET tool) but from QSL Creator and those people which use the tool of PA4R. It looks as if they all use the email-information given in qrz.com (for sender and receiver of the card). If you take out your email information in qrz.com it should be very likely that you will not receive any electronic qsl. This should work in addition to clicking on the unsubscribe links.
?
If eQSL would offer this service for a certain additional fee in addition to the existing eQSL service it should be possible to use those electronic qsl's also for the awards which accept eQSL (as the qso information is already available in eQSL, no need to present electronic qsl's). I don't download the images normally, only for some specific qso's confirmed via eQSL, therefore I am missing somehow the effort of the qsl designers, but that is the reality, at least for me. I am only using eQSL to be able to respond to SWLs which would need paper cards if eQSL would not exisit. The confirmation of other qso's is just a courtesy and easy to do via DXKeeper. This is very similar to the upload of qso's to qrz.com.
?
73

Juergen, DL8LE
?


Re: Frequency Dependent Device output to Serial Port

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I am trying to use my transceiver frequency that is captured by DxCommander with the Frequency Dependent Device to generate a Ascii string to output to a serial port.? I can get all the way to string generation, but cannot figure out how to direct it to a different serial port than the transceiver
+ Sending Frequency-dependent device data to a serial port is not supported.?

+ What make and model antenna switch are you seeking to control?

? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
Run the realtime award tracker, and only check worked¡­.
+ The DXCC tab of DXKeeper's "Realtime Award Tracking" window can be used to identify DXCC entities that are Worked but not confirmed.?

? ? ? 73,

? ? ? ? ? Dave, AA6YQ


Re: DXCCC Challenge: Worked vs Confirmed

 

+ AA6YQ comments below
I have 2453 confirmed dxcc challenge qso's and 2590 worked. A delta of 137.

What report can I run to identify the 137 qso's so I can attempt to get them confirmed. There may be more than 137 qso's as I probably have qso's with multiple stations for the same dxcc/band. This would be a good thing as it would give me multiple chances to confirm the dxcc/band.
+ Use DXKeeper's Need filter, as described here:



? ? ?73,

? ? ? ? ?Dave, AA6YQ