Thanks Gary for that response..... I have a man in my group who keeps saying
you have to forgive yourself first before you can forgive anyone else and I
have tried every way I can to say that it is a simultaneous thing.....that my
brothers are mirroring my lessons to me. I've printed out your response
here about forgiving within by forgiving what seems to be without and I'm
going to read it in my group this morning. If he doesn't need to hear it *I*
certainly do!
Blessings,
Suzanne
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First, a warm welcome to Sue-chan, and thank you for your postings;
more later I'm sure. As for reincarnation, Linda wrote a fascinating
piece about her experiences which included the following:
He gave us advice and told us things that were going to happen that
did and helped us through a hard time. I realize this is all a dream
within a dream, but it helped us in a way we needed at the time in a
way that we could relate to. I think of it sort of like Pursah and
Arten coming to Gary in a form that helped that was a form he was
comfortable with. It was a way of showing us that we were not alone -
that we had help.
Thanks, Linda. I think what you say here is very much in line with
the way I feel about Arten and Pursah. Ultimately, they are symbolic
of the Voice of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit works with each
seeming individual in a way that we can accept and understand, and
uses unreal symbols to reach us. As my teachers asked, "How else
would you be able to hear Him?" So although my ascended visitors
seemed just as "real" to me as anyone else, they wanted to guide me
to the point where I could see that *none* of what I was seeing is
real.
This also relates to the points being made here about the body's
purpose of reversing cause and effect. Fortunately, the Holy Spirit
takes the same things that the ego made and uses them to undo it
through forgiveness of those very same things! As Arten said on
P.171, "You have to learn how to turn the tables on the ego. The
*only* way to forgive what is within is to forgive what *seems* to be
without." Of course any good student of the Course "knows" this, but
how often do we remember to do it when the crap hits the fan? I
certainly remember to do it more often than I ever have, probably
most of the time. So I think one of Arten and Pursah's contributions
was the emphasis they put on being vigilant and getting into the
habit of choosing forgiveness over and over. If you can remember to
choose the Holy Spirit when it's not easy, your ego is being undone.
For as the Course asks, "What is a miracle but this remembering?"
(T447) Love and peace, Gary.
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