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You cannot remove pins from a Cinch Jones
connector, unless you destroy the plug. What he
really meant to say, is how do you remove the retaining pin that
holds the hood onto the
back of the connector.
There.. I fixed it.
Jim W7RY
On 12/7/2023 12:41 PM, Jim Shorney
wrote:
I did not know this until recently but you can buy pin removal tools at auto parts stores.
Not cheap but they won't break. A local handed be two different flavors of these one day without comment. I looked at them for a moment and the light bulb went on. "I know what these are!" I thanked him profusely. Subsequent internet searches revealed the source (and value).
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:16:44 +0000
"Bob Tragesser" <btragesser@...> wrote:
I keep a set of these pin removal tools by my workbench... Works for all kinds of different connectors:
Bob
WB9RHW
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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I use an awl: tap the straight end with a small hammer in a vise so that the pinhead just comes up from the surface. ?Then use flush diagonal cutters under the pinhead and rotate the pin out. ?The diagonal cutters under the head provide ample leverage.? Once the pin is out, the hood can be removed. ? It’s a complete misuse of tools but it’s worked for me since first trying it back in the 1970s.? ? Paul, W9AC ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jim W7RY via groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 5:00 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive Pin Removal ? You cannot remove pins from a Cinch Jones connector, unless you destroy the plug. What he really meant to say, is how do you remove the retaining pin that holds the hood onto the
back of the connector.
There.. I fixed it.
Jim W7RY
On 12/7/2023 12:41 PM, Jim Shorney wrote: ? ? I did not know this until recently but you can buy pin removal tools at auto parts stores. ? ? Not cheap but they won't break. A local handed be two different flavors of these one day without comment. I looked at them for a moment and the light bulb went on. "I know what these are!" I thanked him profusely. Subsequent internet searches revealed the source (and value). ? 73 ? -Jim NU0C ? On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:16:44 +0000 "Bob Tragesser" <btragesser@...> wrote: ? I keep a set of these pin removal tools by my workbench... Works for all kinds of different connectors: ? ? Bob WB9RHW ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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Hi Paul,
that’s exactly the way I have removed the hood pin over the years. ?Tools already on hand.
ED WA6WGS
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I've used the same method often enough. Like so many other tech tricks that we think we are so clever for thinking up only to find out later that great minds think alike. 73 -Jim NU0C On Thu, 07 Dec 2023 14:20:56 -0800 "Ed" <wa6wgs@...> wrote: Hi Paul,
that’s exactly the way I have removed the hood pin over the years. ?Tools already on hand.
ED WA6WGS
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P.S. ? I should have mentioned that there’s little pressure from the cutter against the pin to ruin the cutters. ?The cutters are used to lift, not cut.? The only pressure applied to the side of the pin is for rotation. ?When possible, I use an older pair of cutters that are near the end of life. ? Paul, W9AC ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Ed Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 5:21 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive Pin Removal ? Hi Paul,
that’s exactly the way I have removed the hood pin over the years. ?Tools already on hand.
ED WA6WGS
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Yeah, it took me a few cycles to figure that out.
Those of us with manufacturing or field tech backgrounds were probably scratching our heads.??
It's all good.? We all come from different origins.
I have always just inserted a piece of buss wire if the hood wasn't secured.
73, & laissez les bons temps rouler...
Steve Wedge, W1ES/4
Time flies like an arrow.? Fruit flies like a banana.
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On Thursday, December 7th, 2023 at 4:59 PM, Jim W7RY via groups.io <jimw7ry@...> wrote:
You cannot remove pins from a Cinch Jones
connector, unless you destroy the plug. What he
really meant to say, is how do you remove the retaining pin that
holds the hood onto the
back of the connector.
There.. I fixed it.
Jim W7RY
On 12/7/2023 12:41 PM, Jim Shorney
wrote:
I did not know this until recently but you can buy pin removal tools at auto parts stores.
Not cheap but they won't break. A local handed be two different flavors of these one day without comment. I looked at them for a moment and the light bulb went on. "I know what these are!" I thanked him profusely. Subsequent internet searches revealed the source (and value).
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:16:44 +0000
"Bob Tragesser" <btragesser@...> wrote:
I keep a set of these pin removal tools by my workbench... Works for all kinds of different connectors:
Bob
WB9RHW
--
Thanks and 73, Jim W7RY
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If for?some?reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the connector hole and then bend over the outside edges.? Looks a little funny, but it holds just fine.
Jim, W8KGI
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You usually need to use slip joint pliers to put the pin back.? You needed a fair bit of pull to get it out and you need a fair bit of push to put it back.
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Clint, VE3CMQ
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On Behalf Of JAMES HANLON via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2023 11:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive Pin Removal
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If for?some?reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the connector hole and then bend over the outside edges.? Looks
a little funny, but it holds just fine.
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I never drive the head of the pin flush with the hood. A slight space is left to make it easier to extract the pin with pliers or? diagonal cutters used as a pry bar. I don't always have the proper size punch at hand but pliers and diag cutters are always within reach.?
Ken
WA2LBI
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On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 12:39 Clint VE3CMQ < ve6cmm@...> wrote:
You usually need to use slip joint pliers to put the pin back.? You needed a fair bit of pull to get it out and you need a fair bit of push to put it back.
?
Clint, VE3CMQ
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If for?some?reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the connector hole and then bend over the outside edges.? Looks
a little funny, but it holds just fine.
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Dont just pull that pin you should twist it as well, anti clockwise to remove
The pin has a coarse thread on it
Fred
G4BWP
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On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 12:00 AM, Ken, WA2LBI wrote:
I never drive the head of the pin flush with the hood. A slight space is
left to make it easier to extract the pin with pliers or diagonal cutters
used as a pry bar. I don't always have the proper size punch at hand but
pliers and diag cutters are always within reach.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 12:39 Clint VE3CMQ <ve6cmm@...> wrote:
You usually need to use slip joint pliers to put the pin back. You needed
a fair bit of pull to get it out and you need a fair bit of push to put it
back.
Clint, VE3CMQ
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *JAMES
HANLON via groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, 8 December 2023 11:37
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive
Pin Removal
If for some reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones
connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the connector
hole and then bend over the outside edges. Looks a little funny, but it
holds just fine.
Jim, W8KGI
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Agreed,? and I do "the twist" - apologies to Chubby Checker!
Ken
WA2LBI
???
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:45 Fred Handscombe < fred@...> wrote: Dont just pull that pin you should twist it as well, anti clockwise to remove
The pin has a coarse thread on it
Fred
G4BWP
On Sat, Dec? 9, 2023 at 12:00 AM, Ken, WA2LBI wrote:
>
> I never drive the head of the pin flush with the hood. A slight space is
> left to make it easier to extract the pin with pliers or? diagonal cutters
> used as a pry bar. I don't always have the proper size punch at hand but
> pliers and diag cutters are always within reach.
>
> Ken
> WA2LBI
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 12:39 Clint VE3CMQ <ve6cmm@...> wrote:
>
> > You usually need to use slip joint pliers to put the pin back.? You needed
> > a fair bit of pull to get it out and you need a fair bit of push to put it
> > back.
> >
> >
> >
> > Clint, VE3CMQ
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *JAMES
> > HANLON via
> > *Sent:* Friday, 8 December 2023 11:37
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Subject:* Re: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive
> > Pin Removal
> >
> >
> >
> > If for some reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones
> > connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the connector
> > hole and then bend over the outside edges.? Looks a little funny, but it
> > holds just fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim, W8KGI
> >
> >
>
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If you don't grip the shaft with the edges of the side cutter the pin should self-twist as it comes out. 73 -Jim NU0C On Sat, 9 Dec 2023 05:32:23 -0500 "Ken, WA2LBI" <wa2lbi@...> wrote: Agreed, and I do "the twist" - apologies to Chubby Checker!
Ken
WA2LBI
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 04:45 Fred Handscombe <fred@...> wrote:
Dont just pull that pin you should twist it as well, anti clockwise to
remove
The pin has a coarse thread on it
Fred
G4BWP
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 12:00 AM, Ken, WA2LBI wrote:
I never drive the head of the pin flush with the hood. A slight space is
left to make it easier to extract the pin with pliers or diagonal
cutters
used as a pry bar. I don't always have the proper size punch at hand but
pliers and diag cutters are always within reach.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023, 12:39 Clint VE3CMQ <ve6cmm@...> wrote:
You usually need to use slip joint pliers to put the pin back. You needed
a fair bit of pull to get it out and you need a fair bit of push to
put it
back.
Clint, VE3CMQ
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
*JAMES
HANLON via groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, 8 December 2023 11:37
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: Pin Removal WAS Re: [DRAKE-RADIO] AC-4 Cinch Jones Drive
Pin Removal
If for some reason I cannot return the pin holding the cap onto a Jones
connector, I just push some hook up wire through the cap and the
connector
hole and then bend over the outside edges. Looks a little funny, but
it
holds just fine.
Jim, W8KGI
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On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 01:45 AM, Fred Handscombe wrote:
The pin has a coarse thread on it
Rather than a "thread", I would describe it as a spiral rib... You should turn it as you're removing or installing it, but the "twist" is no where near what even a course thread is on a machine screw. Mark - AD7EF
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