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turbulatordude
From the CCED Home page:
"The list is aimed at the construction and use of this equipment in a Home Shop Machinist environment." Not chatter about neat stuff, not posts of stuff on e-bay, not the intracies of putting a counter bore in a 2 inch hole...... construction and use of this equipment. This seems to me to be use of the stuff needed to construct the machines. not machine operation. Bill has posted many times that actual parts making is better done on other lists. how to select a drill or reemer or tap, HSS vs Cobalt vs Carbide... yadda yadda yadda. Bill doens't jump in all that often, and 95% of the threads he asks to stop are clearly off topic. Those 5% are interesting and machine related, but grey enought to get bounced. If you want to contine a thread that is getting off, BRING IT BACK ON TOPIC by making it relavant to the machine you are building. I think the vaccumm stuff is neat, and am interested in how to build, enhance, design and stuff. The on topic stuff as it relates to our building of machines. Dave This post if actually off topic, (2 in a week for me) so I'm going back to lurk mode. --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., glee@i... wrote: Bill,go to for this topic. Since you have indicated that this is OT, wouldyou, or anyone else, have any recommendations where this should bediscussed? DROP IT Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?reach it if you have trouble.be a sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed onthe CCED list.THEM. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ |
NAMES - Information
To the group -
I note some questions about NAMES and want to reply - Bill (List Mom) started this list as a result of the first CNC seminar I organized about 3 years ago at NAMES - A couple of weeks ago they again asked it I would organize the programs again and I agreed to do so - We have been offered the same "show & tell" display space on the main floor again - This is an area that we can use to show and explain to visitors about our CNC projects - As usual you can make contacts with customers and even sell products as long as it is kept on a "low key, non arm-twisting" basis - This is because we are being given space at no charge that other folks (vendors) have to pay over $500 for - The NAMES folks feel that primarily educational demonstrations about CNC is part of their own public service and therefore have been donating the space even though there is a waiting list for vendors who want to pay for it - We also have a change to the Seminars this year - There will be two seminars - A much larger room is scheduled on the main floor - One will be Saturday and the other on Sunday - One will be oriented towards those whose primary interests are building CNC systems from the electronics, system software and related points of view - The other will be oriented towards those whose interests lie more in making chips and parts using CNC and view the electronics and system level stuff as more of a tool rather than their main interest - At last years seminar we had to turn folks away and the room was standing room only - It should be a lot better this year - The exact times are being negotiated and I will place a note on the CCED list as soon as finalized - In the meantime, If you want to participate in either the "show & tell" or the seminars send me an e-mail OFF LIST so that I don't lose it among all of the list messages - I have set up an e-mail address that is different from my regular address solely for the purpose of handling NAMES communications - Please use the following - rolandfriestad@... Ray Henry and I have just completed what I laughingly call the "Universal CNC Controller" prototype that will be published in HOME SHOP MACHINIST starting in the Jan/Feb 2003 issue - It will be demonstrated at NAMES - For other purposes than NAMES, you can continue to use my regular address - cardinal.eng@... Roland Friestad |
Re: Pin removal, Amphenol plug????
turbulatordude
Each pin should be removable, assuming that the unit is not the
solid, solder style. IF they are removable, they would be somwwhat lose in the houseing, think the Molex connector in a PC, the pins kinda float. IF they are of the removable variety, a small slieve, slightly larger than the pin will compress the expanding fingers that hold the pin in the houseing. needless to say, if you remove them make a VERY clean note pad, digital pic ? of the wiring arrangement. Also, look a the Digi-key site and others like the link posted to see about a replacement part. Not that you need it, but you should find exploded views and such. Dave (glad mine are all 4 pin) ps: I have an old surplus RACK from GE and it has some 2" dia connectors with what I assume are 50 wires. Looking at the thing and the era it came from, you just KNOW that it cost... well, let's just say those $700.00 toilet seats were a bargan ! --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "doug98105" <dougrasmussen@c...> wrote: Bill,removal, but is salvageable.the bench.pin partremoval. Anyhow, it's not obvious. It's an 11 pin connector. |
Re: Firsthand Defiance experience
Dear Marcus,
Thanks for your kind advice, that's I wanted to know the real feed back from user rather than sales people's colorful wording. You are right that may be the reason they got out of business. Only I was impressed with that machine by reading an article published on MMS online Thanks once again, I should continue my search with something else pl. let me know if you got any recommendation. BTW I found this site very interesting may be of any use for you. Thanks. Cheers, Kevin --- Marcus & Eva <implmex@...> wrote: Hi Kevin: __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site |
Re: One direction Gecko????
Alan Matheson
Check that current is actually flowing through the direction pin when its
grounded. May well be the optoisolator or resistor thats gone. I accidentally blew the resistor on the isolated side of a Gecko 201 about a year ago and had precisely the same sympton. In my case I pumped too much current through the pin, I was running the common at 24 volts and used too low an external resistor in series with the pin. I took the case apart bypassed the resistor and used an external one, everything then worked. Alan Matheson |
Re: Frustrated with "demo" CAM programs
stevenson_engineers
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "mueller914" <mmueller@n...> wrote:
I need a simple demo CAM program that'll let me make at least oneDrop Mike Milligan a line at Dolphin They do a full version with 30 day license for evaluation. By the way a warning on Capsmill. I recently took a look at their latest product quite deeply and found some serious bugs in the program in dxf imports and other areas. It wasn't even able to do simple files. Their tech support was very slow and not much help. They admitted all the bugs I pointed out but offered no work around. When I pressed them for help believe it or not , I still have all the emails, they offered the advise that the best thing to do was to reformat my hard drive and reinstall windows. At the price they want for this for a 2 1/2D program it's very expensive. Just beware. John S. |
Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?
There's a sister group for these topics, as Bill will possibly remind you.
Otherwise, we have two Usenet NGs which will be happy to see the topic: rec.crafts.metalworking and alt.machines.cnc. At 09:22 PM 10/26/02 -0700, you wrote: Bill,Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCEDaol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble. sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ billRegards, Hoyt McKagen To prevent virus propogation, don't put this addy in your book Belfab CNC - US Best MC - Camping/Caving - Two-Wheel-Tech List - If you torment a serpent, it will cough up a dead rat |
Re: Has anyone built an SPC display for Digimatic scales?
galt1x
I have 2 Mitutoyo Digimatic #982-537 displays that I would like to use
with the cheap generic scales because of the application. I have some info on using Starett scales with Mitutoyo Displays but nothing on the other. Paul E. Killoy Original Message ----- From: "Chris Baugher" <cbaugher_yahoo@...> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@...> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Has anyone built an SPC display for Digimatic scales? aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble. sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ bill aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble. sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ bill |
Re: Pin removal, Amphenol plug????
doug98105 wrote:
Hello Group,If these are crimp pins, then there is a special tool that slides into the connector housing from either the front or back, depending on pin style, and releases the retaining tabs that hold the pin in. This sounds like a round, metal, WW-II style connector. Actually, 20-33P is just the pin pattern spec, the connector would have a military designation like MS3109-20-33P. You can sometimes make your own extractor tool with stainless shim stock, about .010" think. You roll it into a cylinder of about the right diameter to just slide into the plastic housing, between the housing and the pin. When it is pushed in far enough to press in the retaining tabs, the pin can then be pushed out. Jon |
Re: Millwizard software
Jim Brown
Tim,
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You wouldnt happen to know what the password is to unzip the demo would ya? I had it , but I cant find it now. Regards, Jim Tim Goldstein <timg@...> wrote:I mean Delcam putting the prices on the web. VectorCAD-CAM is sold by IMService and they do list all their pricing on the web. I should point out that the prices that IMS lists on their sites are not the special prices that they offer to use CAD_CAM list members. You can get a substantial discount of you follow the link that Fred posts in his signature on this forum. Tim [Denver, CO] -----Original Message----- Addresses: FAQ: FILES: Post Messages: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@... Subscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-unsubscribe@... List owner: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-owner@..., wanliker@... Moderator: jmelson@... timg@... [Moderator] URL to this group: OFF Topic POSTS: General Machining If you wish to post on unlimited OT subjects goto: aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble. I consider this to be a sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list. NOTICE: ALL POSTINGS TO THIS GROUP BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN BY POSTING THEM. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ bill List Mom List Owner Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site |
Re: Millwizard software
I mean Delcam putting the prices on the web. VectorCAD-CAM is sold by
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IMService and they do list all their pricing on the web. I should point out that the prices that IMS lists on their sites are not the special prices that they offer to use CAD_CAM list members. You can get a substantial discount of you follow the link that Fred posts in his signature on this forum. Tim [Denver, CO] -----Original Message----- |
Re: Millwizard software
jagco1998
Tim,
They do put the prices on the web....I just looked at them. The full VectorCAD-CAM package is $795.00 --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Tim Goldstein" <timg@k...> wrote: There are a number of products on the Delcam site that lookinteresting. Would really like to find the price, but they don't seem to putthat on the web. I always find that to be a scary situation.demo fullversion seems really easy to use, but would like to know if the version is worth the 250.00. Thanks! Rick |
Re: Millwizard software
There are a number of products on the Delcam site that look interesting.
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Would really like to find the price, but they don't seem to put that on the web. I always find that to be a scary situation. Tim [Denver, CO] -----Original Message----- |
Frustrated with "demo" CAM programs
mueller914
I need a simple demo CAM program that'll let me make at least one
part before commiting to purchasing... OneCNC is locking up on my computer, DesKAM keeps telling me I've reached my limit (never used it or loaded it before tonight), CAPSMill won't let me enter the password emailed to me from the company...I'm going to give Vector a shot now, wish me luck. |
Re: Transformer question
eissej143
Pls be careful of your connections. Bear in mind that it's harmful
dealing with current . . . no TRIAL & ERROR for this . . . if ur not familiar bring it to ur nearest service center . . . no jokes! jc --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Carol & Jerry Jankura" <jerry.jankura@s...> wrote: Hi, JJ:at the higher voltage or either half of the winding at the lower voltate.Leave the unused end 'floating,' do NOT tie the two outside wires together.can be set up as either 120 or 240 volts, that's a different matter. In thatcase, you tie the two 'bottom' ends together and the two upper ends togetherfor 120 volt operation, or you tie the hi end of one to the low end of theother and use the two outside wires for 240 volt operation.connect the |two outer legs together and use them with the center tap for 110v?Or |use it half-coil <g> and use one leg and the center tap.EXCEPTIONS........ | | |
Re: This topic is OFF TOPIC DROP IT Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?
Bill,
As a hobbyist, this topic (building a vacuum chuck for my cnc mill) interests me. CCED Would be the first group that I would think to go to for this topic. Since you have indicated that this is OT, would you, or anyone else, have any recommendations where this should be discussed? Thank you and thanks for your work on this list. Eric wanliker@... 10/26/2002 08:55 PM Please respond to CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@... cc: Fax to: Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] This topic is OFF TOPIC DROP IT Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC? In a message dated 10/26/2002 9:10:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, motionin@... writes: Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?this topic is Off Toipic please drop it........ bill List mom Addresses: FAQ: FILES: Post Messages: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@... Subscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-subscribe@... Unsubscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-unsubscribe@... List owner: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-owner@..., wanliker@... Moderator: jmelson@... timg@... [Moderator] URL to this group: OFF Topic POSTS: General Machining If you wish to post on unlimited OT subjects goto: aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble. I consider this to be a sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list. NOTICE: ALL POSTINGS TO THIS GROUP BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN BY POSTING THEM. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........ bill List Mom List Owner Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
Re: This topic is OFF TOPIC DROP IT Possible OT vacuum chuck for CNC?
dodge1320
Hi Bill. Sorry about the post... I replied to his original post
before I saw your post. But to justify my post, wouldn't it "fit" the groups interest as it is a helpful devise as well as made on a cnc? Not trying to argue... Rick |
Re: Pin removal, Amphenol plug????
doug98105
Bill,
Yep, just as you said there's a small locking snap ring down inside the back of the connector. They certainly didn't make this an easy one to take apart. My snap ring got a little twisted in the removal, but is salvageable. Now that I have it apart, I can see someone else has been through this same exercise. The solder joints are pretty sloppy, I'm sure they didn't come from the Haas factory that way. Wow, I can only imagine how nasty your 50 pin connector must have been!!! This one with only 11 pins won't be fun, even with it on the bench. Thanks for the help. Doug --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., w.higdon@a... wrote: Doug,head frombroke. It's a 3/8" armored cable. I have to remove the wires wiresthe plug connector on the opposite end of the cable, pull the connector.back through and replace the right angle fitting. partOr maybe the connector body comes apart somehow to allow the pin appearednumber, they may have a new numbering system since nothing body??close to my number series.
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Re: Millwizard software
qwerty12345612
I demo'd the software and I found it to be extremely slow when
calculating toolpaths.....Im running a 1400Mhz PC w/plenty of ram. Shouldnt have taken that long, becuae it wasnt that complex of a peice to mill. I dont know maybe it was a bad day for the Millwizard engine, cause it was super slow! Regardless, I dont think I would spend my hard earned money on it. Joe --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "dodge1320" <motionin@a...> wrote: Has anyone used the Millwizard 3d software from Delcam? The demofull version is worth the 250.00. Thanks! Rick |
Re: One direction Gecko????
qwerty12345612
Mariss,
Thanks a million Mariss. Now that's what I call standing behind your product! You're reputation of A1 customer service and satisfaction, is the best in the business, and NOW I know that first hand. I disconnected the direction lead from the breakout board that leads to the drive, and grounded it to all of the port grounds individually, and it did not change directions either time. Even though I dont think it's your responsability to replace the defective drive, I will take you up on your offer kind sir. I'd be an idiot not to! I'll be giving you a call first thing Monday, as this little setback has delayed me in completing my CNC conversion. I'd like to add that the other 2 drives are working flawlessly as they should....wouldn't hesitate for one second to buy another GECKODRIVES product. Thanks again, Joe --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "mariss92705" <mariss92705@y...> wrote: Joe,port and touch it to your port ground line. If the drive is good, theto be dissatisfied with our stuff.<qwerty12345612@y...> wrote:onlyI bought a Gecko driver off of LloydLeung in this group and it have,turns the stepper one direction. Strange huh?? turnconnecting it to different motors, but I still cant get it to (bothany of them more than one direction, CCW.breakout Ihardware wise and software) I discovered that it wasnt. gottook apart and reassembled everything about 10 times and still offthe same results no matter what pin the step/dir' were running shouldof. troubleshooting.work or it doesnt.And I should ask someone else for up mewith. Or contact Mariss and ask him. toto.check, and possibly make this thing work the way it was designed ofIf not, then I guess I got the old Ebay screw job, and am stuckwitha driver that only goes one way, because Lloyd has no intention replacing it or the money I paid for it. |
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