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CP 2816 ... and tender

 


2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam engine.....
Th tender is at this moment apparently still at Binghamton, and in use at
the fuel rack. Originally from Challenger 1517, and is the last remaining.
[Culled from D&H list]

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TH&B NW-2

Chris Jajko
 

Hello all,
About 2 years ago, I was at the Galt station watching
trains, when TH&B NW-2 #51 came through going westbound. Also with
the NW-2 was another swithcher, With crude #ing. Unfortunetly I
didn't record the date. Does anyone know when this event happened?

Chris


Photos

Douglas Cummings
 

If anyone has a good photo of either CPR 9300, 9301 or 3083 (in new colors)
please contact me. We are looking for same and would like to publish photos
of one of the SD90MAC's and the 3084 is the next issue of Extra 2200 South.
Color slides would be preferred so we can publish it in color.

Doug Cummings,
Editor-Publisher, Extra 2200 South,
The Locomotive Newsmagazine,
www.extra2200south.com
email: ihp@...
Fax: 604-444-3507
Phone: 604-444-3506
email: ihp@...


Re: Digest Number 332

BC Rail King
 

Hello,

The 2816 is slated for a June departure from the BC Rail shop in North Vancouver. This is the deadline set by the employees, not the managment at either RR. Second, the only reason the steam shop at N.Van has problems is because of lack of funding. Al Brodfoot should be regonized for his hard work! The engine has gotten alot more done on it than Mr.Smuin has said. The have stripped it, cleaned it (harder than one may think) worked on there own engines at the same time, rebuilt parts of it, and so on........
But in the end Mr. Smuin is correct, people will work double over time to get that thing out by May.

Dane N.
BCon, BC Rail fannatic
PS-I vollunteered on the Hudson last summer, just alittle vent for me.


Message: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:39:20 -0500
From: "Luc Lanthier" <lanthlu@...>
Subject: CP 2816

2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam engine.....

Rumours that Rob Ritchie has bought a home in Montreal.....like there might
be a change at the HELM soon...wonder how his 2816 project will survive if
he gets boot out ?

I guess shareholders not happy with CP's stock performance ?



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 20:51:53 -0800
From: Joe Smuin <kvrailway@...>
Subject: Re: CP 2816

From what I'm seeing each work day and from what the boys in the steam
shack tell me, if the 2816 is ready to run in May, either BC Rail has a
very impressive connection with the supernatural, or there is about to
be a program blitz that will dwarf the arms race. So far, the only
magic I've seen at BC Rail is the foreman's unerring ability to show up
at all the wrong moments. As for a BC Rail blitz, about the closest
I've seen to one of those involved something organized by the United
Way. Unless something has changed very drastically from what I last
heard on pretty good authority, I seriously doubt we are going to see
2816 any time much before summer. (If then.)

Joe Smuin

Luc Lanthier wrote:

From: "Luc Lanthier" <lanthlu@...>

2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that
tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam
engine.....

Rumours that Rob Ritchie has bought a home in Montreal.....like there
might
be a change at the HELM soon...wonder how his 2816 project will
survive if
he gets boot out ?

I guess shareholders not happy with CP's stock performance ?

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Re: 9300

Brian D. Switzer
 

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, Ian Harris wrote:

I guess 9300 did turn back to Toronto. I managed to get some pictures of
9300 and 9301 when they stoped in Cartier on March 26, 2000 which will be
posted soon on the Mile 262 website.
There already scanned in and ready so we'll let you know when they are
posted.
9300 got to Cartier yesterday on train 440 and then switched to train 442
in Cartier. Left Cartier at 15:30 yesterday and got to Mactier at 20:00
or so. Then on to Toronto.

Brian D. Switzer


Re: 9300

Ian Harris
 

I guess 9300 did turn back to Toronto. I managed to get some pictures of
9300 and 9301 when they stoped in Cartier on March 26, 2000 which will be
posted soon on the Mile 262 website.
There already scanned in and ready so we'll let you know when they are
posted.

L8R
Ian Harris
Mile 79 CP Cartier Sub.
Mile 276.1 CN Bala Sub.
Mile 0 Ruel Sub.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Base" <cbase@...>
To: "CPR Onelist" <C-P-R@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: [C-P-R] 9300


Looks like 9300 snuck into Toronto without a mention:
CP 009300 ,TORONTO Y,ON,03/30,07:25,E,L,049330,WINNIPEG ,MB,
,Departure in Transit

9301 has been in Winnipeg for a couple of days.

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9300

Christian Base
 

Looks like 9300 snuck into Toronto without a mention:
CP 009300 ,TORONTO Y,ON,03/30,07:25,E,L,049330,WINNIPEG ,MB,
,Departure in Transit

9301 has been in Winnipeg for a couple of days.

CB

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Re: CP 2816

Tom Price
 

We on the Laggan are waiting with baited breath for the 2816 as it
will be our star attraction this summer running the Golden Triangle
and charter trips. When it is ready, we railfans want a double header
trip from North Van to Calgary with the 2816 and the 2860. Now that
would be a sight. sic transit gloria mundi!

TAPMAN




--- In C-P-R@..., Joe Smuin <kvrailway@h...> wrote:
From what I'm seeing each work day and from what the boys in the
steam
shack tell me, if the 2816 is ready to run in May, either BC Rail
has a
very impressive connection with the supernatural, or there is about
to
be a program blitz that will dwarf the arms race. So far, the only
magic I've seen at BC Rail is the foreman's unerring ability to
show
up
at all the wrong moments. As for a BC Rail blitz, about the closest
I've seen to one of those involved something organized by the United
Way. Unless something has changed very drastically from what I last
heard on pretty good authority, I seriously doubt we are going to
see
2816 any time much before summer. (If then.)

Joe Smuin

Luc Lanthier wrote:

From: "Luc Lanthier" <lanthlu@...>

2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that
tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam
engine.....

Rumours that Rob Ritchie has bought a home in Montreal.....like
there
might
be a change at the HELM soon...wonder how his 2816 project will
survive if
he gets boot out ?

I guess shareholders not happy with CP's stock performance ?

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C-P-R "Canadian Pacific Railway"


Re: CP 5600's equipped with UP strobe light

 

I have photos of both 5656 and 5657 with strobes. These were taken
during 1993 on the Carberry and Indian Head subs.

Tyler Dick

Railway Engineering Grad Student
Department of Civil Engineering
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Peter Jobe wrote:

From: Peter Jobe <pjobe@...>


I would say that the 1972 "EMD built" DRF-30j class 5629 - 5658 had strobes
at one time or another.

5658 had one in 1985, 5654 had one when she was painted STLH in 1996.
single amber strobe light centered on front of cab roof, just above the bell

UP units that were made CP leaders were in the low 3400's, 3414 for sure.





At 04:33 AM 3/27/00 -0000, you wrote:
From: timothy.organ@...

A number of years ago, CP & UP enter into a run through(sp?)
agreement in Western Canada(?).

At that time, UP equipped a group of units in the pool with CP ditch
lights, and CP equipped a group of units with UP strobe lights.

Can anyone confirm the details of this run through agreement, and how
many CP units were equipped with the strobe lights. What make and
model of strobe was applied.

Thanks THO.


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Re: CP 2816

Joe Smuin
 

From what I'm seeing each work day and from what the boys in the steam
shack tell me, if the 2816 is ready to run in May, either BC Rail has a
very impressive connection with the supernatural, or there is about to
be a program blitz that will dwarf the arms race. So far, the only
magic I've seen at BC Rail is the foreman's unerring ability to show up
at all the wrong moments. As for a BC Rail blitz, about the closest
I've seen to one of those involved something organized by the United
Way. Unless something has changed very drastically from what I last
heard on pretty good authority, I seriously doubt we are going to see
2816 any time much before summer. (If then.)

Joe Smuin

Luc Lanthier wrote:


From: "Luc Lanthier" <lanthlu@...>

2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that
tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam
engine.....

Rumours that Rob Ritchie has bought a home in Montreal.....like there
might
be a change at the HELM soon...wonder how his 2816 project will
survive if
he gets boot out ?

I guess shareholders not happy with CP's stock performance ?

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C-P-R "Canadian Pacific Railway"


CP 2816

Luc Lanthier
 

2816 might be ready for runs in May but need a 2nd tender and that tender
will supposedly be a Chalenger tender from a Binghamton steam engine.....

Rumours that Rob Ritchie has bought a home in Montreal.....like there might
be a change at the HELM soon...wonder how his 2816 project will survive if
he gets boot out ?

I guess shareholders not happy with CP's stock performance ?


STLH 5619 and STLH 7306 photos

Bill Miller
 

A short time ago, soembody sent me photos of STLH 5619 and STLH 7306 both
leading trains. I now have the photos and the e-mail msg is gone .........
please advise so I can credit accordingly.

Bill


Yellow SD40-2's

Kicking Horse
 

Here are the pics I got of the CP 5425 leading 493-25 on the Laggan sub
on Tuesday.





KH


Re: CP 3084 in maroon and grey

W E Miller
 

I just tried without a problem.

PBowers wrote:

From: PBowers <57era@...>

I have been unable to get into Brian's page to see this beastie. Anyone
else having this problem?
William E. Miller
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TNFH Traffic Dept: CP

Danny Boehr
 

CPR Builds on Canada-Mexico Trade Growth


CALGARY, March 28 /CNW/ - Canadian Pacific Railway's recent launch of a
new suite of seamless joint-line rail services across North America's three
free-trade countries has generated significant growth in Mexican traffic,
leading CPR to next month open its first permanent office in Mexico.
CPR's traffic to and from Mexico took a 25-per-cent jump in 1999, much
of
it coming from a new NAFTA-targeted rail service brand called CPR-MEX, which
was launched in November 1999. CPR-MEX links CPR with three of Mexico's
recently privatized railways and Union Pacific Railroad in the U.S. to move
virtually any product -- from automobiles and auto parts, to grain, steel
and
beer -- to and from anywhere in Canada, the U.S., and Mexico.
``The potential for growth in the Mexican market is tremendous,'' said
Robert Ritchie, President and Chief Executive Officer of CPR. ``Not only is
Canada-Mexico trade growing, but only about four per cent of the existing
traffic currently moves by rail. By joining forces with our U.S. and Mexican
railway partners, we can offer unrivaled access to North America's major
markets.
``Our new office in Mexico City will provide local expertise and will
further develop relationships with Mexican railways and shippers.''
The CPR-MEX suite of services includes bulk freight and intermodal
ramp-to-ramp service, pre-arranged truck pickup and delivery in Mexico,
direct
access to all major Mexican border crossings, and port service for
continent-to-continent trade. The three Mexican partners in the service are
Transportacion Ferroviaria Mexicana (TFM), Ferrocarril Mexicano (FXE) and
Ferrosur (FSRR). Union Pacific is CPR's preferred partner on the U.S.
portion
of the services.
The joint-line services offer the shortest route between Mexico and
Montreal, where Mexican goods can be moved by CPR directly into port and
loaded on ships for Europe. CPR-MEX also offers the only direct service to
and
from New York City. Goods move across the continent under a simple
one-price/one-bill contract, with shipment tracing on CPR's website and
24-hour customer service.
Mexico-Canada trade was worth $9.1 billion in 1998, and has grown an
average of 13 per cent each year since 1994. Mexico is now Canada's
second-largest trading partner, behind the U.S.
CPR's Mexico City office will be headed by Rosalind Wilson, Director of
Business Development for Mexico. Ms. Wilson is a Mexican resident and has
extensive experience working with Mexico's railways.
``Thanks to the North American Free Trade Agreement, doing business in
Mexico is now a fact of life for many Canadian companies,'' said Ms. Wilson.
``We now make it easier for shippers to trade with Mexico by providing a
seamless, one-price/one-bill service. The shipper deals with one railway
only
and benefits from significantly streamlined customs clearance.''
Mexican railways have undergone major modernization since they were
privatized in the mid 1990s. Investment in infrastructure and equipment, new
marketing practices and improved security measures have made Mexican
railways
more efficient and competitive than ever.
CPR provides rail and intermodal freight transportation services coast
to
coast over a 14,400-mile network extending from Montreal to Vancouver, and
throughout the U.S. Midwest and Northeast. Commercial alliances with other
carriers extend CPR's market reach beyond its own network. ¿ªÔÆÌåÓý ports on
the east coasts of Canada and the U.S. and the Port of Vancouver, CPR links
North America with European and Pacific Rim markets, moving large volumes of
import and export goods across the continent. It is also a leading carrier
in
the intermodal industry with 24 terminals across Canada and the northern
U.S.


TNFH Abandonments Dept: MN

Danny Boehr
 

Full Text of Decision


30913

SERVICE DATE - MARCH 28, 2000
DO



SURFACE TRANSPORTATION BOARD



DECISION



STB Docket No. AB-57 (Sub-No. 46X)



SOO LINE RAILROAD COMPANY--ABANDONMENT EXEMPTION--IN ST. PAUL, RAMSEY
COUNTY, MN



Decided: March 23, 2000

By decision served on April 20, 1999, the Board, under 49 U.S.C. 10502,
exempted from the prior approval requirements of 49 U.S.C. 10903, the
abandonment by Soo Line Railroad Company, doing business as Canadian Pacific
Railway (Soo), of a .90???-mile line of railroad known as the St. Paul
Terminal Trackage, extending from milepost 17.29??? (southeast of Jackson
Street) to the end of the line at milepost 18.19??? (near I-35E North), in
Ramsey County, MN, subject to an environmental condition and standard
employee protective conditions. The exemption was scheduled to become
effective on May 20, 1999, but a timely offer of financial assistance (OFA)
under 49 U.S.C. 10904 and 49 CFR 1152.27, filed on April 30, 1999, postponed
the effective date of the exemption authorizing the abandonment in order to
permit the OFA process under 49 U.S.C. 10904 and 49 CFR 1152.27 to proceed.



By decision served on September 20, 1999, the OFA process was terminated and
a 90-day public use condition was imposed under 49 U.S.C. 10905 for
acquisition of the right-of-way at the request of the Tri-Area Block Club
(Tri-Area).(1) The condition required that Soo keep the right-of-way
underlying the track, including bridges, trestles, culverts, and tunnels
(but not track and track materials), intact for a period of 90 days until
December 19, 1999, to enable any State or local government agency, or other
interested person to negotiate the acquisition of the line for public use.
At the requests of Tri-Area and the City of St. Paul, MN (the City), the
public use condition was extended for an additional 90 days to March 18,
2000, by decision served on December 17, 1999. By letter filed on March 16,
2000, Tri-Area and the City jointly request a further extension of the
public use condition.



It is well settled that 180 days is the maximum period permitted by statute
for a public use condition and that it may not be extended beyond that time
period. See 49 U.S.C. 10905;

49 CFR 1152.28(b); and Rail Abandonments--Public Use Conditions--Revision, 8
I.C.C.2d 392, 395-98 (1992). Therefore, the requested extension must be
denied.



This decision will not significantly affect either the quality of the human
environment or the conservation of energy resources.



It is ordered:



1. The request to extend the public use condition is denied.



2. This decision is effective on its service date.



By the Board, David M. Konschnik, Director, Office of Proceedings.









Vernon A. Williams

Secretary


Re: Dome Cars

Pat Scrimgeour
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy McCullough" <mcculloughaa@...>

What is the "Enterprise"? Is this the new Montreal/Toronto overnight
trains
50/51?
Yes.

I thought Park cars were in great demand.
VIA has no shortage of Park cars. They do have a shortage of operable
Skyline cars and of Manor and Chateau cars. The shortage of Skyline cars
has meant that dining room cars have on occasion had to be substituted for
Skylines on the Chaleur, for instance. The shortage of sleeping cars has
led VIA to lease several from Amtrak, likely for use on the Hudson Bay.

On the Montreal-Toronto overnight trains, a Park car can serve not only as a
sleeping car but also as a lounge and as a food-preparation and serving area
for breakfast in the morning. Park cars have been regularly operated on the
overnight train since it began in January.

Is it possible that REVELSTOKE PARK is one of the Park cars on its way to
be
used on VIA train #15 Ocean between Montreal & Halifax?
I'd guess it unlikely, but it is possible that a Park car from the Canadian
could be deadheaded on a daytime train from Toronto to Montreal for
maintenance. VIA now has only three heavy maintenance centres, in Vancouver
(for the Canadian and the Skeena), Winnipeg (for the Hudson Bay), and
Montreal (for everything else). The maintenance centres in Toronto and
Halifax have been closed except for servicing and minor maintenance.


Pat Scrimgeour, Toronto, qqjct@...


Re: Yellow CP 5425

BNSF5600
 

A couple weeks ago, I saw the CP yellow, 5424 in Lacrosse Wisconsin. Just
thought I would let everyone know. I have a pic of it. I can E-mail it to
anyone who wants it.

Brandon Pregler
Dubuque, Iowa

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Johnston <johnston@...>
To: C-P-R onelist <C-P-R@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 10:01 PM
Subject: [C-P-R] Yellow CP 5425


From: "Jim Johnston" <johnston@...>

Hi Kicking Horse;

Thanks for the "heads-up" on that 5425. I saw it go through Salmon Arm
about an hour ago. Actually by here at 2054....should be in Kamloops about
2245. Still leading with 6057 and 5996 trailing.

I know some of these yellow fellows have been west of Calgary before but
its some years ago. This is the first time I'd ever seen one.

For any Vancouver area fans that 493 train should be in Coquitlam sometime
early on Wed. morn. Probably it will go east later in the day.

Cheers;

Jim Johnston
Salmon Arm B.C.





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In the Falls this morning

 

At Smiths Falls, Ont this morning march 29, 2000 between 03:54am to
7:05am

#509-28 03:54am Departure (CP 5663, soo6610) (Westbound - Belleville
Sub.)
#482-25 04:27am Departure (CP 5981, 5958, 5949) (Eastbound to Montreal)
#481-29 05:25am Departure (CP9014, 5910, 5865,5762) (Westbound - Chalk
River Sub)
#471-29 05:51am Departure (CP9020,5918,5726,5404) (Westbound - Chalk
River Sub.)
#923-28 06:41am Departure (CP9611) (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)
#739-29 07:05am Departure (CP 5668, 5647) (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)

To come soon are???

#928-28 (CP5794, 5792) (Eastbound to Montreal)
#906-29 (CP 5674,5661) (Eastbound to Montreal)
#503-29 (CP 5653, 5601, 5584) (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)
#502-27 (SOO 6009, 6052) (Eastbound to Montreal)


Re: Dome Cars

Christian Base
 

--- Andy McCullough <mcculloughaa@...> wrote:
From: "Andy McCullough" <mcculloughaa@...>

?Hi

What is the "Enterprise"? Is this the new Montreal/Toronto overnight trains
50/51? I know there are always a few Chateau or Manor sleepers kicking
around, but I thought Park cars were in great demand. With only 3 bedrooms
and a drawing room, and nothing to see in this all-at-night train, would it
be practical to tie up 2 (one each way) Park cars for the Montreal/Toronto
overnight service? With VIA, though, who knows!

Is it possible that REVELSTOKE PARK is one of the Park cars on its way to be
used on VIA train #15 Ocean between Montreal & Halifax? In September ?99,
the last time that I was in Halifax, they were using WATERTON PARK, BANFF
PARK, YOHO PARK, and EVANGELINE PARK for these train sets, but ever since
they closed the VIA Maintenance Center in Halifax, all work is done in
Mimico, so maybe they?re switching equipment!

(I'm cross posting this to bring this discussion over to Can-Pass-Rail, as it
has virtually nothing to do with the CPR)

Yes, the Enterprise is the Montreal/Toronto overnight train #50/51. I have
heard people say that there's a shortage of Skylines, but a (small) abundance
of Parks, but I'm just going from anecdotal memory here. Breakfast is offered
in the Park car lounge or in your room, should you prefer. They can make
coffee & stuff there in the Park's kitchenette.

Isn't the Mimico Maintenance Mentre all but shut down too? Isn't most
servicing done in Montreal?

CB

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