开云体育

Hi all,

I have just created the "Canadian-Passenger-Rail" list at OneList:


This list is a place to discuss all aspects of past, present, and future
passenger rail travel in Canada. This includes all national, regional,
commuter, and tourist rail carriers. Examples include VIA Rail, the
passenger services of Algoma (Wisconsin) Central, Ontario Northland, or BC
Rail, GO Transit, West Coast Express, Rocky Mountaineer Railtours, and
South Simcoe Railway. Others not mentioned here are of course welcome.

Discussions regarding freight movements unrelated to passenger rail should
be posted elsewhere. I suggest the Canadian-Railways list, the C-P-R
list, or the C-N-R list for these topics.

This list will have moderated membership for the purposes of limiting
individuals who violate the guidelines of this list.

Please avoid cross posting to other lists.

Polls are welcome however, please discuss with the list moderator.

Files may be uploades to the files section at


Should you have any questions or concerns, please contact the moderator at
cbase@....

Please feel welcome!
Christian.

=====
________________________________________________________________________
Christian Base
Richmond Hill ON Canada
MP 18.7, CN Bala Sub
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.

Greetings

I grew up on the Montreal Lakeshore CPR commuter line (plus CNR Lakeshore
service too for the first few years)and can of course easily confirm that
the CP line was there many, many years before the Toronto GO services.

As I have never had an original thought of my own, I?ll plagiarize from
?CANADIAN PACIFIC?s MONTREAL LAKESHORE COMMUTER SERVICES (Volume One)? by
Ronald S. Ritchie, Published by BRMNA in Calgary.

?In 1884 . . . the fledgling Canadian Pacific . . . inaugurated services
between Montreal as far west as Vaudreuil. By the early 1020's . . . the
idea of year-round residence outside the city was
beginning to take hold. At its peak . . . just before WW2, passengers had a
choice of ten suburban trains in each direction . . . (+) . . . plus another
7 long distance trains . . .?

The trains (about 13 a day) continue today, of course, operated by ?AGENCE
METROPOLITAINE DE TRANSPORT? and in 1999 were still using some 1954/55
vintage ex-CPR FP7A?s (nee-CPR 4040 + 4070 - 4075).

Andy in Windsor, ON


From: "Jason Monk" <jasonmonk@...>

I have some questions with regards to commuter operations past and
present.

I know that CP operated its own commuter rail in Montreal, but did
it ever do so before GO Transit started in Toronto?




______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at

St. Lawrence & Hudson Railway
Cartier Subdivision
Lineup for Wed Mar 01 2000 may be found at:




- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Wayne Regaudie
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
mailto:regaudie@...

St. Lawrence & Hudson Railway
Mile 77, Cartier Subdivision

Mile 77 Website:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

What appears to be sheet metal on the windows of the CP "B" units
(ie; SD40-2 #5767) is actually 1/2" plywood fitted into the window
frames.

D.C.
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

Was on a rare jaunt along the CP tracks on the south side of Vancouver
today and noted CP Switcher an ??SW? #1237 and a caboose on a siding!
Paint on the loco looked like new! This is on the Marpole branch! I
always thought they brought the engines down from New West with the
loads did the switching and then headed back.
gh

UP 9215 is moving again ..... now maybe they can get two pairs together as
intended ..... UP 9144 and UP 9215 are the two leader equipped units.

UP 009144 ,ST PAUL ,MN,02/29,08:24,C,L,057026, , ,
,Arrival at Destn.
UP 009151 ,MOOSE JAW,SK,02/28,18:18,C,L,047126, , ,
,Arrival In Transit
UP 009162 ,ENDERLIN ,ND,02/29,19:29,C,L,057127, , ,
,Departure in Transit
UP 009215 ,MPLS HUMB,MN,02/29,14:07,C,L,057529, , ,
,Departure in Transit

Bill

From: "Jason Monk" <jasonmonk@...>

I know that CP operated its own commuter rail in Montreal, but did
it ever do so before GO Transit started in Toronto? And what about in
other cities, like Vancouver and Calgary and such?

The only other city I can think of for relatively recent times would be on
the Toronto line towards Peterboro. These trains could be _used_ for
commuting, but were not strictly set up for commuter service.
Before the fifties for possible other cities, well there Im in the dark.

????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Gerry Burridge - PO Box 152 - Pte.Claire-Dorval, Que. - H9R 4N9 - CANADA
<< Be brave. Stay calm. Wait for the signs >>
mailto: burridge@...

=============================================================

The CAR did not have its own reporting marks.

The CAR was set up as a marketing arm, not an operating subsidiary,
like the StL&H, therefore it never had its own reporting marks
registered in UMLER.

3 8000s were stencilled CAR, but all carried lettering stating they
were a

St. Lawrence & Hudson Railway
Cartier Subdivision
General Train Status Report
Tuesday February 29 2000

Westward:

LEAD# TRAIN# DEPART TIME DEST

CP 9020 435 >Flanagan> 08:35 Cartier
CP 5995 911 >Romford 09:15 Sudbury
VIA 6215 185 Sudbury 09:40 Cartier>
CP 9155 401 >Romford 11:10 Cartier
CP 5869 INCO-3 Sudbury 11:30 Levack
CP 9147 403 >Romford 13:30 Cartier
CP 5531 481 >Coniston 15:10 Cartier
CP 6025 471 >Coniston 16:00 Cartier


Eastward:

LEAD# TRAIN# DEPART TIME DEST

CP 9151 404 >Larchwood> 08:22 Romford>
CP 6060 408 Cartier 08:35 Romford>
CP 6013 432 Cartier 09:30 Coniston>
CP 5815 434 Cartier 11:00 Romford>
SOO 772 440 Cartier 12:30 Romford>
CP 5975 472 Cartier 13:40 Coniston>
CP 5868 482 Cartier 15:00 Coniston>
CP 9126 402 Cartier 15:20 Romford>
?? UNKN 912 Sudbury 15:30 Romford>
CP 5924 INCO-3 Levack 15:30 Sudbury

Broadcast complete at 08:34.

(For those unfamiliar with the terminology of the above, see
)

Wayne
Mile77
Sudbury, Ontario.

Greetings all,

I have some questions with regards to commuter operations past and
present.
I know that CP operated its own commuter rail in Montreal, but did
it ever do so before GO Transit started in Toronto? And what about in
other cities, like Vancouver and Calgary and such?
I ask because I want some background reference for the commuter
operations on my layout.

Thanks all

Jason

Recently someone told me that the CP Tyvan Sub between
Regina and Stoughton had been featured in an issue of
National Geographic as being the longest stretch of
straight track in North America. Can anyone on the
list confirm this?

Thanks

Bruce


D.B. (Bruce) Dixon, Senior Project Consultant
Dixon, Klein and Associates
Event Transportation Consultants
Post Office Box 144
Creelman, Saskatchewan
Canada
S0G 0X0
Phone:(306)433-4404
Fax:(306)433-4721
mailto:bdixon@...

Since last week, CP introduced a new train #450 between Winnipeg and
Montreal.

See the following info....

CP 9015 ST LUC PQ 02/28 05:45 045025 Arrival at Destn.
CP 5493 CARTIER ON 02/28 02:15 045026 Departure in Transit
CP 5950 SUDBURY ON 02/28 10:31 245026 Departure in Transit
CP 9004 SUDBURY ON 02/28 14:12 045027 Departure in Transit

Luc Lanthier
Gatineau, Qc.

I don't think we need to continue this discussion on C-P-R. Rest assured
that you will NOT contract this or any other virus from this list because I
have set the list options to automatically remove ANY attachments (as in
JPG files etc). The End.





========================================================================
Bill Miller
Canadian Pacific Railway News Editor - CTC Board Railroads Illustrated
List Moderator - C-P-R@...
========================================================================
The View From Galt Station ICQ# 9907692
"
Canadian Pacific Railway Diesel Locomotive Roster
"
========================================================================

Note UP 9215 seems to be stagnant ..... perhaps changed out for another ??

UP 009144 ,HARVEY ,ND,02/28,15:14,C,L,057026, , ,
,Departure in Transit
UP 009151 ,REGINA ,SK,02/28,17:33,C,L,047126, , ,
,Departure in Transit
UP 009162 ,ST PAUL ,MN,02/28,16:57,C,L,057127, , ,
,Departure in Transit
UP 009215 ,ST PAUL ,MN,02/23,08:26,C,L,057020, , ,
,Arrival at Destn.


Bill

Mike Salfi wrote:

From: "Mike Salfi" <msalfi@...>

Please tell me I didn't proliferate that damn virus. My mailer
automatically opens the next email however there was no exe, just a very
long string of characters.

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

I got the same thing to, i downloaded the fix and it said i did not have it,
yet someone i was e mailing earlier asked what was with the code i sent
them.....

And 2 more trians crashed today on the chalk river sub, one 5600 ran out of
water and the next eastbound got peged at the scanner at m28.5. so that
brings our chalk river sub parking lot to 5 trains downed in the last 24
hours inlcuding 2 crews that hit the 12 hour limit, and the one last night
who's EOT did not arm. And apparenetly there were more problems in smith's
falls as well.

Cheers
C.Anthony

Mike:
I'm pretty sure if you just got the characters your e-mail proggie didn't
convert it. And I haven't gotten it through this list (I would have, just like
the other one). You should be OK, but you might want to get the Pretty Park
Cleaner from this site:



Run it and it will remove all traces from your machine. BTW, this %%##@!**!
thing came to me off the railswest list on the onelist server.

Good Luck!
Ron

I've had problems with McAffee and have now switched over to Norton Virus.
You may want to give that a try, I don't think Mcaffee are as up to date. As
far as CPR content goes, well if you get a virus then so much for receiving
all this interesting info on the greatest rail system in the world!

Jeff Semper
Mactier Sub (Burbidge)
Woodbridge, On.

Please tell me I didn't proliferate that damn virus. My mailer
automatically opens the next email however there was no exe, just a very
long string of characters.

Michael Salfi
Kitchener, Ontario

email: msalfi@...

We are the navvies who work upon the railway,
Swinging our hammers in the bright glazing sun,
Laying down track and building the bridges,
Bending our backs till the railroad is done.

From "The Canadian Railroad Trilogy", by Gordon Lightfoot

I was just reviewing the latest issue of RAIL CANADA vol. 3 and I noticed
that there is a shot of 4570 with it's windows covered with sheet metal
similar to 5767 etc, and the high nose ex-NS, 5400's. How many more units
were done like this? Or was this the only Big Alco done up like this?

Chris Davidson
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at

There is an interesting article in the business section of today's Toronto
Star on the president of CPR.

Go to www.thestar.com <>


PC