Just got some imformation out of CP Rails Weston Shops in Winnipeg this morning that the boys in the roundhouse blew up an engine on a 9100 series EMD while "load testing" the beast.Rumor has it that EMD will pay for it due to computer failure..Ho-Hum,,,another day of railroading.DOC :) From: C-P-R@...
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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
1. Identification of CPR sign?
From: burridge@...
2. Re: Caboose Markers
From: "Thomas Sajnovic" <mile262@...>
3. Lots of power at the Falls this morning
From: lanthlu@...
4. STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
From: "W. Regaudie" <tec_64@...>
5. Additions to CPR Modeling website
From: "Greg Williams" <williams@...>
6. In Cab Signals Question
From: "Jason Monk" <jasonmonk@...>
7. canada southern
From: ddavies@...
8. Re: Caboose Markers
From: "Gary W.Murray" <gary.murray@...>
9. Re: Caboose Markers
From: burridge@...
10. Galt Sub 03/01/00
From: Chris Tapanila <ctapanil@...>
11. Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
From: "Mike Cleary" <mcleary@...>
12. UP C40-8 status
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
13. Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
From: "W. Regaudie" <tec_64@...>
14. RE: Digest Number 298
From: "Erik" <fordprefect42@...>
15. Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
From: "Brian D. Switzer" <herkamur@...>
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 05:27:13 -0500 (EST)
From: burridge@...
Subject: Identification of CPR sign?
Can anyone provide information on this 'sign' at
?
Supposedly made of porcelain. The raised outer part is a frame mounted
around the original piece.
Origin, usage, ...?
TKU
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Gerry Burridge - PO Box 152 - Pte.Claire-Dorval, Que. - H9R 4N9 - CANADA
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 08:02:47 EST
From: "Thomas Sajnovic" <mile262@...>
Subject: Re: Caboose Markers
Hi James,
As I recall, there would be on the marker light, two or three red lenses
and
one green lens. If I can recall clearly, when a train enters a siding and
waits for the other train tto clear the mainline, and the switch is thrown
for the mainline, the marker lights would be displayed in such a way that
the red lenses would face to the rear of the caboose and to the side, the
green lens would face the front of the train, and thus the towards the
approaching train, signifying that the switch is thrown and he is clear to
proceed. Anyone else have another senario in mind? Would like to hear the
other uses.
Thomas Sajnovic
MILE 262
Hello all,
I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker lights here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour flags could be
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 08:56:42 -0800
From: lanthlu@...
Subject: Lots of power at the Falls this morning
A lot of CP units going back west on 2 trains with 8 locomotives each at
Smiths Falls, Ont. this morning. I believe they need more power out west
for grains loads to Quebec city.
At Smiths Falls, Ont this morning March 2nd, 2000
#307-25 * 02:58am Departure (Westbound - Chalk River Sub.)
#928-01 04:25am Departure (Eastbound to Montreal)
#923-02 04:39am Departure (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)
#481-02 05:33am Departure (Westbound - Chalk River Sub)
#482-27 05:41am Departure (Eastbound to Montreal)
#471-02 06:04am Departure (Westbound - Chalk River Sub.)
#739-02 06:28am Departure (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)
#509-01 06:39am Departure (Westbound - Belleville Sub.)
#906-01 07:23am Arrival (Eastbound to Montreal)
#2-481-02 ** 08:08am Arrival (Westbound - Chalk River Sub.)
#432-01 08:24am Departure (Eastbound to Montreal)
* CP #307-25 had 8 locomotives 6074,6013,5949,5868,5758,5722,5691,5496
** CP #2-481-02 had 8 locomotives
6015,5973,5956,5904,5876,5865,5803,soo763
Luc Lanthier
Gatineau, Qc.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:02:49 -0500
From: "W. Regaudie" <tec_64@...>
Subject: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
Howdy folks!,
The StLH Cartier sub lineups are back at their usual place at Mile 77.
Select Daily Train Status Report in the menu.
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Wayne Regaudie
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
mailto:regaudie@...
St. Lawrence & Hudson Railway
Mile 77, Cartier Subdivision
Mile 77 Website:
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:30:36 -0400
From: "Greg Williams" <williams@...>
Subject: Additions to CPR Modeling website
I have made some additions to my website: www.trainweb.org/cprmodeling
that I think will benefit all visitors.
NEW!!! Please visit the gallery to see the latest additions. Pictures by
Ian
Garton of the Royal Hudson in British Columbia, the restoration of CPR 2816
and a collection of articles from Canadian Pacific's Spanner magazine.
NEW!!! Please check out the resources page for new links, better
organization and an all Canadian all Rail search engine!
NEW!!! If you are into railroad E-Passes please visit the E-PASS page. And
if you don't collect E-Passes come and take a ride on some fine web
railroads!
NEW!!! Additions to the projects page. Read and see the efforts of Gavin
Rees
Be on the lookout for more additions next month!!!
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Greg Williams
www.trainweb.org/cprmodeling
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 01:59:28 EST
From: "Jason Monk" <jasonmonk@...>
Subject: In Cab Signals Question
Hello all,
I know that this system is becoming very commonly used in the US. I am
not sure if it has been in Canada. But either way I would like to know,
that
if a territory has "In-Cab Signals", are signals still used on the ground.
Also what equipment is there needed on the ground for sending the
information to the cab of the locomotive.
My reason for asking is I am modeling an imaginary rail corridor, and
am
at the point where I should add signals, however I would rather spend the
money on locomotives, rolling stock and scenery. Plus electrical work
bothers me, except for installing DCC decoders.. :) Grin!
Thanks,
Jason
PS Sorry for crossposting however it does fit with both CN and CP lists,
and
I model both roads.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 16:21:44 -0000
From: ddavies@...
Subject: canada southern
Any more news of the Canada Southern sale yet?? It would not be in
CN's interest to sell it to CP. I'd say it will never happen. Besides
the existing track would need a lot of work. Sadly it looks like
another Trans Canada Trail around the corner. We all would love to
see trains roll by Waterford Sta. again.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 12:59:16 -0500
From: "Gary W.Murray" <gary.murray@...>
Subject: Re: Caboose Markers
"J. Gamble" wrote:
From: "J. Gamble" <trvln_man@...>
Hello all,
I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker lights
here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour flags
could be
flown from the van (and why?).
Here's the scoop... I'll be working for a few weeks living in a
caboose, and
I'd like to know what signals would properly be displayed in the days
before
electronic tail-end devices. Our caboose is LNAL 076 (nee CP 434547),
and
today I replaced the ditch lights, marker lights, etc and made sure we
had
clean windows before heading off to the USA.
Anyways, any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
J.
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ICQ# 36957838
Riding the rails with Siemens-Westinghouse, February-July 2000
Trackside at: Paris Jct, CN Dundas Sub (mile 30.9)
"An accident's sometimes the only way to worm our way back to bad
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James,
The caboose markers had one red lens, and all the others were green.
When a train or any part of the train was occupying the mainline, the
markers displayed red to the rear. When a train was clear of the
mainline to be passed by another train, the markers could be swiveled to
display green to the rear.
If a following train observed green markers on a train ahead, they could
breath easy. If they were approaching a train displaying red markers,
that was another story.
Markers also indicated the rear of a train. If you were meeting a train
on single track, and the tail end went by without markers, you couldn't
proceed because the train wasn't complete. This was very important,
especially in areas with heavy grades. Sometimes the train passing only
had half his train and was doubling the hill. If you proceeded without
seeing his markers, you could run into the second half of his train.
The only time flags were used was if you couldn't display markers for
some reason. A red flag or red light also indicated the rear of a train.
This was quite common when, for whatever reason, you were handling cars
behind the caboose. Freight cars had no brackets for hanging markers. In
that case the markers had to be taken down from the caboose and a red
flag by day, or a red light by night had to be displayed on the last
car.
Gary
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:53:26 -0500 (EST)
From: burridge@...
Subject: Re: Caboose Markers
From: "Thomas Sajnovic" <mile262@...>
Hi James, From UCOR(1962):
19. MARKERS
The following signals will be displayed to the rear of every tarin to
indicate the rear of the train:
(1) by day, markers not lighted.
(2) by night:
On single track and when running with the current of traffic on 2 tracks,
markers lighted displaying red to the rear.
On 2 tracks, when standing or running against the current of traffic,
markers lighted displaying red to the rear on the outside and green to the
rear between tracks.
...
When a train is clear of the main track to be passed by another train,
lighted markers will display green to the rear.
...
EXCEPTION: The requirement that markers display green to the rear when
clear
of main track does not apply in CTC.
19A. A train not equipped to display markers as prescibed by Rule 19 will
display a red flag by day and a red light by night to indicate the rear.
The
red light will be replaced by a white light when train is clear of main
track.
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2 red and 2 green l;enses in lamps shoulde the case.
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Gerry Burridge - PO Box 152 - Pte.Claire-Dorval, Que. - H9R 4N9 - CANADA
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:46:33 -0500
From: Chris Tapanila <ctapanil@...>
Subject: Galt Sub 03/01/00
On my day off, I decide to leave the GTA to see some trains...
CP Campbellville
0633 GO 540 10 cars eastbound
0645 CP 5550 (SD40)
CP ???? 71 cars eastbound containers
0655 GO 552 10 cars eastbound
0718 GO 521 10 cars eastbound
0738 GO 529 10 cars eastbound
0748 CP 5997 (SD40-2)
CP 5712 (SD40-2) 31 cars eastbound coils
0807 CP 3032 (GP38-2)
CP 8226 (GP9u) 20 cars eastbound autoframes on flats
0839 CP 5642 (SD40-2)
CP ???? (they go fast!)
55 cars eastbound containers
0845 leave for breaky in Galt
CP Galt
1016 arrive in time to watch this next one switching in the yard...
1025 CP 5603 (SD40-2)
StL&H 5614 (SD40-2) -left side louvre door open
41 cars westbound loaded autoracks
1230 no trains for 2 hours, leave for Bayview to watch other RR!
Chris Tapanila
ctapanil@...
North York, Ontario
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 18:03:35 -0600
From: "Mike Cleary" <mcleary@...>
Subject: Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
Wayne,
Great to have the lineups back!
Looks like CP axed a couple more westbounds during the last couple of
months, no more 407 or 431?
Am looking forward to the rest of your site getting back up to speed, I
check it out every day.
Mike Cleary
Woodbury, Minnesota
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From: W. Regaudie <tec_64@...>
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Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 8:04 AM
Subject: [C-P-R] STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
From: "W. Regaudie" <tec_64@...>
Howdy folks!,
The StLH Cartier sub lineups are back at their usual place at Mile 77.
Select Daily Train Status Report in the menu.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Wayne Regaudie
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
mailto:regaudie@...
St. Lawrence & Hudson Railway
Mile 77, Cartier Subdivision
Mile 77 Website:
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:14:03 -0500
From: Bill Miller <bmiller@...>
Subject: UP C40-8 status
EQUIPMENT ,LOCATION ,PR, , , ,L,TRAIN\,DESTINATN,PR,FLAT CAR ,
INITNUMBER ,CITY ,ST,MM/DD,HH:MM,Z,E,JUNCT ,CITY ,ST,INITNUMBER,STATUS
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UP 009144 ,ST PAUL ,MN,02/29,08:24,C,L,057026, , , ,Arrival at Destn.
UP 009151 ,MOOSE JAW,SK,03/02,08:54,C,L,061527, , , ,Arrival at Destn.
UP 009162 ,BROADVIEW,SK,03/02,07:47,C,L,030829, , , ,Departure in Transit
UP 009215 ,SWIFT CUR,SK,03/02,07:32,C,L,057529, , , ,Departure in Transit
Bill
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:17:17 -0500
From: "W. Regaudie" <tec_64@...>
Subject: Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
Hiya Mike!,
Thanks. I working on it (the site).
Yes, some trains have been dropped and added. Gonna have to get a new list
of train from the Trackside Guide (or get someone to post them).
Stay safe!
Wayne
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:39:43 -0700
From: "Erik" <fordprefect42@...>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 298
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:05:25 EST
From: "J. Gamble" <trvln_man@...>
I'm looking for some information regarding cabooses and marker
lights here
in Canada, specifically, what do the red and green lights that can be
displayed to the rear of the train signify, and what colour
flags could be
flown from the van (and why?). UCOR, revision of 1962, Rule 19:
Unlit marker lamps by day.
By night or when equipped with built-in markers, marker lights lit to
display:
Red on single track, with current of traffic in double track, or in more
than two track territory.
On double track when standing or running against the current of traffic,
red on the outside and green between tracks.
When clear of the track to be passed by another train, green to the rear
(except in CTC).
If unable to display markers, a red flag at the rear by day, and a red
light at night (white light when clear of the main to be passed by another
train).
Marker lamps were constructed with one red lens so that they always
displayed green to the front and sides and red or green to the rear
depending how the lamp was turned.
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:25:28 -0400
From: "Brian D. Switzer" <herkamur@...>
Subject: Re: STLH Cartier Sub Lineups
Held within the mighty vaults of Herkamur, a scribe with name of Mike
Cleary
didst pen a scroll with subject of "Re: [C-P-R] STLH Cartier Sub Lineups".
Looks like CP axed a couple more westbounds during the last couple of
months, no more 407 or 431? I'm not sure about 431, but 407 surely still runs. It's route is a bit
different now though. 407 begins in Windsor, Ontario, heads east along the
Galt sub to Lambton yard in Toronto and then heads north on the Mactier
sub. You probably don't see it because the times have changed. It heads
up the Mactier usually in late afternoon now.
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