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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
beyond our arguments about everything else, it is quite certain in my mind that packinf needs to improve. we will work on improving it. there have been quite a few complaints and we will ensure that something is done about it.? an important part of open sourcing the business processes is to be ready to take criticism, however harsh it may sound. so, people, let's see how we can deliver the boards more reliably. - f On 24-Dec-2016 10:11 pm, "Joel Caulkins caulktel@... [BITX20]" <BITX20@...> wrote:
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
AD7LL
????? I was working farms in the summer when I was 12. ?bused tables on weekends when I was 14, ?and started a regular part time job when i was 16. ?If I lived in a area that poor, so-called child labor would at least put food on the table. ? better than going hungry. ? ? ? According to wiki, within the slums only 3% of the children are involved in child labor. ? ?And soldering up a few parts or winding a few coils could not begin to be considered dangerous. Sounds to me like maybe he was helping to at least provide some relief. ? And that is IF ?these were children. ????? I am 52 , and to me , any lady under 30 ?is a young girl. ?You made an assumption, probably based on your own preconceptions, with very very little information.? ? ? If the social structure there is such an abomination to you, ?maybe you should move there a find a way to help improve it yourself, instead of starting flame wars on this forum. ?I am new to this group, having just ordered my first bitx40, ?however, this is NOT the place for these type of discussions or personal attacks. ?I was born into a military family, then spent some time enlisted myself. ?I have lived in places like Germany and Korea for extended periods of time. ?I have spent in other countries, seen the shanty towns mexico the were built using orange crates and cardboard. ?Culture can be hard to overcome, and when large numbers of people are going hunger, any help is welcome and can lead to longer term solutions. ?I for one applaud the efforts that ?Ashhar Farhan has made, ?and I look forward to receiving my BITX ?! I also will not read any more post on this or your rants?qrpbuilder@... , Don Frasher, ?AD7LL ? ? |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Along with most here, I really appreciate the effort put into making this rig available. ?Makes it possible for remote communities to communicate, especially important after a disaster such as a hurricane. ?Addresses a real need. ?Looking forward to tinkering with it. ? On shipping, a few vague (untested) suggestions. From the photo on hfsigs, looks like the metal standoffs could be mounted to the top of the board and a plate of cardboard or flooring or pcb scrap drilled and bolted to the top to protect the electronics. ?A piece of styrofoam glued to the center of that plate to hold it off the center if needed. ?Leave the IRF510 not installed, doing a friction fit and low duty cycle transmission when checking the final. ?A bunch of extra work, but might be worth the trouble if significant numbers are getting damaged in transit. Could offer to ship two boards together, bolted front to front, separated by two spacers. ?Most of us can find another ham to buddy up with. My post of 19592 suggested a hinged metal box. ?If you can obtain something of proper dimensions there, perhaps sell it as an option, both as a possible enclosure and as a way of protecting the board. ?Keep the price of the basic kit low, charge real money for options such as this (and possibly a drilled out front panel?). ? Many of us would be happy to help fund the venture in this way. Best Regards, Jerry Gaffke, KE7ER ?? |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Not to mention, as long as they are not being mistreated or have unsafe working conditions, who cares if they are UNDER 20, if they are gainfully employed and able to help support themselves and their families? I learned how to safely handle a soldering iron and use it properly before I was 13, why shouldn't they do likewise? Do not be so quick to judge the standards of other countries by your own. In the USA, kids in farming families still learn the meaning of hard work and responsibility, and supporting one's family, at an early age - values that too few of their more urban counterparts are learning these days.
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
>Young is 20 in my book.
If if makes you feel better, but Hyderabad isn't in "your book." Google the words young girls child labor India and switch to Image Browse mode and see what the world defines as young girls in India. When Farhan says young girls, he probably means unmarried females, but hopefully not prepubescent females. >What are you doing to have a positive impact on the world? I might be raising the wage of exploited children in India or even preventing their exploitation. That's worthy, isn't it. >Your posts here certainly are not helping anybody. Oh, I think they are. >I suggest you find someplace else to rant. Translates to, "Go away, you're making me vey uncomfortable revealing how my $45 SSB 40m rig from India was possible." >I for one am done with reading your posts. Go ahead, stick your head in the sand if you can't handle it. |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
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On Dec 24, 2016, at 8:03 AM, jgaffke@... [BITX20] <BITX20@...> wrote:
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Wow. Young is 20 in my book. What are you doing to have a positive impact on the world? Your posts here certainly are not helping anybody. I suggest you find someplace else to rant. I for one am done with reading your posts. Jerry, KE7ER ---In BITX20@..., <qrpbuilder@...> wrote :? ... ? found a group of five young girls who were laid off after the ?... ? |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
The terminology is only relative, I refer to 30 year olds as young girls!
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Nothing to be worked up about, Farhan would never break laws. Don't hit below the belt is an old saying! At 24-12-2016, you wrote: ? |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
>i sat down and designed a new single side
pcb .. with through-holes, on Express Pcb.
>we turned up 100 boards, found a group of five young girls who were laid off after the >unit where they worked to assemble TVs had closed down. showed them how to >assemble the boards. "...found a group of five young girls..." Farhan, you just stated that you used child labor to assemble your boards to keep the cost down. Do you realize that? Add to that they were just laid off and that makes them vulnerable young girls. Throughout history, when the ultra rich and privileged class exploits the poor and disadvantaged masses for their profit, that they describe their actions as actually beneficial to the ones exploited. Has always been that way, hasn't it, Dr. Todd? >it is fallacy that India is cheap. Fact: In 2012 the average monthly wage in India was equivalent to $295 U.S. dollars or just over 18,117 rupees. The rich and educated in Hyderabad complain about the hyper-inflated cost of "good" property while millions live in the filthy slums on dollars a day. (Just Google the words Hyderabad slums then switch to Google Image display mode.) http://sanjanac.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/slum1-1.jpg
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Re: Bitx 40 board.
Hi Bill Sorry I didn't get back sooner, too much going on right now. I was just interested in the negative values for interest sake. I did write it all out and it makes a lot of sense. Also noticed that the 300 HZ and 3kHZ are also inverted or flipped from the LSB side. Thanks Bill. 73 Ken VA3ABN On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Bill Meara n2cqr@... [BITX20] <BITX20@...> wrote:
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A few of questions.
Yesterday I put in my order for my first BITX. ?I am really looking forward to getting it ! ? ?1. ? Is this LSB only? ? ? ?2. ? Is the new BITX40 cw capable? ? ? ?3. ? If not, can it -easily- be hacked to for cw use? ? ?4. ? Will the original software for the arduino be available in case a re-set from a failed upgrade is needed? ? ?5. ? maybe a basic instructional how-to, or links to such, for programming this adruino be available? ? ?6. ? Will this new version be frequency stable enough to use PSK? ? ?I have been a basic electronics tinker for some time, ps, op-amp projects, basic audio amps, basic repairs etc. ?have built a couple of kits such as the current Rock Mite, pixies and such.? ? ? However, I have had NO experience working with Arduino. ?It has look very interesting to me, however I never took the plunge. ? So I guess its time for me to get on board. ? Thanks in advance for any and all info and advice, positive or negative ! 73? Don Frasher ?AD7LL |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Rahul Srivastava
Ditto Bhatnagar Saab, I am yet to see another project done in this spirit.... 73's Rahul VU3WJM On Saturday, 24 December 2016 6:16 PM, "SP Bhatnagar vu2spf@... [BITX20]" wrote:
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Merry Christmas to you Juan Carlos and all BITXers.
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Happy new year folks, keep on brewin' 73 Raj, vu2zap. At 24-12-2016, you wrote: ? |
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Re: Ham Radio and Homebrewing
I know, ?I set my expectations too high. ? It's irresponsible of me to assume a product that was advertised as a functioning radio that could be on the air in an evening to arrive in a functional condition. While there are plenty of you that have built several of these from scratch, ?there are guys like me that look at this as a first opportunity to get hands on a functional radio to learn and experiment with, ?not to have to troubleshoot out of the box. ? Some of us just want a small radio that's mostly dialed in for portable operations.? I don't remember anything from my testing for General or Extra that required me to be able to troubleshoot RF circuits. Frankly, ?it's not in my wheelhouse, ?nor do I really have the desire to learn it. ? Remember, there are multitudes of deep pools of interest in the hobby. ? While one person may be a retiree and have plenty of time to devote to troubleshooting, ?others of us in the hobby have busy family lives, ?demanding careers, and other obligations.? Set me in front of Cisco ASA firewalls, Nexus core routers, ?security appliances, ?VoIP routing and switching, ?or just about anything else network related and I'm your Huckleberry. RF circuits are not where my talents lie. Sorry for the rant. Kent W9WB? On Dec 24, 2016 7:34 AM, "jmalinski2@... [BITX20]" <BITX20@...> wrote:
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Juan Carlos Berberena Glez
Merry Christmas? Feliz Navidad Colegas Voy a escribirles en espa?ol pues el es el idioma en que mejor puyedo hacerlo, aunque google luego destruya mi idea original. El mas importante procer cubano "José Martí" cubano dijo: "El sol quema con la misma luz con que alumbra. El sol tiene manchas. Los agradecidos ven la luz. Los desagradecidos ven las manchas". Creo antes todo debemos darles las gracias a? Ashar Farhham, por los buenos momentos que nos ha proporcionado con todo los bueno que hace ,pero mas que todo lo demas, con el BITX-. Yo tengo mas problemas que los que uds tienen en la India, con respecto a los componentes electronicos, internet,etc. pero estoy feliz pues some mucho menos que los que exiten en Corea del Norte. Tengo muchos a?os tratando de hacer lo mismo que logró Ashhar y aun no he podido, por muchas razones, pero de todas la mas importante es el dinero, el capital. Sunil me ha ayudado mucho vendiendome los PCB y enviandolos a Cuba a casi precios de costo, pero solo unos pocos estan en el aire hoy. Entonces, me dije, la unica forma de poder ayudarlos es aprender a hacerlo todo y que ellos mismo lo hagan, de ellos para ellos y eso es lo que estoy haciendo. Creo soy afortunado por vivir en este grandioso pais, que me adopto como su ciudadano y a pesar de sus defectos y problemas es un muy buen lugar donde se puede, si asi lo desea vivir decentemente independientemente de todo las criticas que le puedan hacer. Yo pienso resolver o quizas "cambiar los problemas" creando una organizacion sin fines de lucro, que llevo tiempo pensando y no he podido hacer pues no tengo aqui en los EEUU quien me quiera ayudar compartiendo exactamente la misma idea altruista que yo tengo. Pero si estoy seguro de que lo voy a hacer, lo voy a hacer este 2017 y se tambien que habrá quien me diga como hacerlo mejor, y me mande a empapelar ?las cosas,pero eso no tiene importamcia en comparacion con la felicidades de poder ayudar a los demas. Sigue adelante,si necesitas ayuda, aqui hay muchos que estamos listo para buscar soluciones mas que para criticar. La critica es buena, si se hace de corazon y si se usa para mejorarlo todo, pero no tiene sentido si se hace de mala fe y por celos profesionales. Tu eres una persona con talento, pero no eres negociante, te entiendo y se que no hiciste esto antes para evitar sinsabores como estos que te hieran. Esto se trata de un grupo de gente que se siente feliz y que no puede deshacerse por la opinion de una sola persona. Yo no he leido todo, no tengo tiempo y cuando veo que no voy a sacar provecho de lo que esta escrito, lo paso y sigo adelante, asi las cosas, en detalles, no se exactamente cual es la "queja" o la "observacion". Lo siento, pero queria esciribir todo esto para poder estar feliz este dia 24 de diciembre. Qrv's 73's Jc ?------------------------------------ Merry Christmas, Colleagues Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o I will write them in Spanish because it is the language in which I can best do it, although google then destroys my original idea. The most important Cuban procer, the Cuban apostle "José Martí" said: "The sun burns with the same light with which it shines, the sun has spots, the grateful see the light, the ungrateful see the spots." I think before anything we should have to say? thank you Ashar Farhham,? for the good moments that he has provided us with everything he does, but more than anything else,? with the BITX. I have more problems in Cuba than you have in India, with respect to electronic components, the?internet, etc. But I am happy because its are much less than those that happen in North Korea. I have many years trying to do the same Ashhar achieved and I have not been able to, for many reasons, but of all the most important is the money, the capital. Sunil has helped me a lot by selling PCBs and sending them to Cuba at almost cost prices, but only a few are on the air today. So, I told myself, the only way to be able to help them is to learn to do everything and make them themselves, from them to them and that's what I'm doing. I believe I am fortunate to live in this great country, that I adopt as its citizen and despite its defects and problems is a very good place where you can, if you want to live decently regardless of all the criticisms that can do. I plan to solve or maybe "change the problems" by creating a nonprofit organization that I have been thinking about during a long time and can not do since I do not have here in the US guys wants to help me sharing exactly the same altruistic idea that I have. But if I am sure that I am going to do it, I am going to do this 2017 and there will also be some who will tell me how to do it better, and send me how to wrap it up the deliveries, but that does not matter in comparison with the happiness of being able to help others. Go ahead, if you need help, here are many who are ready to look for solutions more than to criticize. The criticism is good, if it is done by heart and if it is used to improve everything, but it does not make sense if done in bad faith and by professional jealousy. You are a talented person, but you are not a businessman, I understand you and I know you did not do this before to avoid such troubles as these that hurt you. This is a group of people who feel happy and can not be undone by the opinion of a single person. I have not read everything, I do not have enough time and when I see that I will not take advantage of what is written, I pass it and I go on, so things, in detail, I do not know exactly what is the "complaint" or "observation ", But I know it is a 'NOISE" I'm sorry, but I wanted to write all this down so I could be happy this December 24th. Qrv's 73's Jc “If you have a penny and I have a penny and we exchange pennies, you still have one cent and I still have one cent.? But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange ideas, you now have two ideas and I now have two ideas.”? Mr. Juan Carlos Berberena Gonzalez, BSc. WJ6C exCO6BG? |
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Ham Radio and Homebrewing
I'm working on my Bitx 40, I just got it and it works a little bit. It has poor? reception and no transmit audio But I'm not worried, because I will make it work 100% before I'm done.? This is my fourth BitX.? Two originals. one Model B, and now the Bitz40.
I first became a Ham in 1956 and the things that attracted me most was learning the electronics and building things. Farhan helped me with my first Bitx, so did John and Arv.? John went so far as sending me some parts and schematics. Everyone in the group was helpful. I'm 71 years old, my eyesight isn't very good, and my hands shake a lot. But I'll manage to troubleshoot my radio and have it on the air pretty soon.? My first Bitx is still making contacts. I've I even worked a lot of DX with that radio. So my advice to the guys complaining is if you want a perfect plug and play radio, buy a Kenwood or Yaesu or some other commercial radio.? They come double boxed, foam packed and ready to go. Because if you are a General class Ham and you can't troubleshoot a simple radio like the Bitx 40, you really need to learn.? And this is your opportunity.? Jerry K5LRU |
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Re: Entrepreneurs, the BITX 40, and Rupees
Friends of hamdom, I think bitx is a tool for self enjoyment in radio. All bitxers learned a lot from it. We all have clear understanding that if it doesn't work on arrival its perhaps good for us providing another opportunity to tinker.? When Farhan announced availability of a partially assembled bitx many of us were overjoyed. Especially those who love tinkering but don't have access to pcbs and components. It was an opportunity for first time homebrewers too to climb up using this pedestal. Since the launch of bitx some 10+ years ago perhaps no one talked of economics but of joys of learning and great homebrewing. Please see the enormous efforts which go behind providing a kit and that too a semi ready one. I personally have such experience and can vouch about it. Wishing you all a very happy Xmas time with bitx's. Happy homebrewing. 73 VU2SPF Bhatnagar? |
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