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Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

JJ - I've already posted what I use here. Feel free to scroll up the thread on the web interface.
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You could have PMd me as well. Maybe some of this history will be useful for the new folks though, so I'll entertain your query.
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This is the only official support location for Farhan's projects.? Many have tried slack and discord groups in the past - going back to at least 2017 - and...well, they've become very tiny fiefdoms or abandoned lots.
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Folks can do as they wish, of course - I was in uniform way too long to believe or suggest? otherwise. As a former serial business owner that used IRC and discord as support channels, and as a gamer and dad to a gamer, I'm familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of discord. That's ultimately why I'm against it for this group.
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People are still scratch building BITX20 and 40 radios - try pulling relevant info from a Discord channel from 6 months ago, much less from 2005. Good luck with that!
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There was a time when we agreed.
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73, Andy
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Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Please just put what you want us to look at HERE....please don't force us into yet ANOTHER venue, OK/
Thanks
Gordon KX4Z




On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 12:08?PM Jeff Duce via <jefe_de_estado=[email protected]> wrote:
Check out what I'm working on here, feedback would be appreciated.




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 8:59:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3
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We’ve got three instances of destroyed radios in our local group alone. Connectors are nice, but that doesn’t stop people from putting clips on storage batteries backwards. ??

It can be done with series diodes in low power devices ;
P channel mosfets in medium power ;
And in diode controlled relays in really high-powered devices?

Dc-powered radios that ?I consider valuable to me , I generally provide protection for!

Our local group just did an Arduino based Winkeyer ?project, and putting a series diode in there before the voltage regulator was easy ; most of my HF go boxes have mosfet ?protection?


Gordon kx4z?

On Sep 20, 2024, at 11:40, Gary Eldridge - KC8UD via <gary.video=[email protected]> wrote:

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Yes, I see how that will work. But for a QRP rig such as sBitx one certainly doesn’t really need such a big bundle of connectors to carry the load. I understand that it is simply for making the polarity foolproof.?


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

... unless the -ve O/P from the PSU shares the same ground as the rig or ATU!!!!!!!

On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 10:31 PM, David Lacey wrote:
I am surprised no one so far has used the simplest way of protection.
Use a suitably rated (amps) bridge rectifier, hard wire + to rig +
hard wire -ve to rig -ve? the two AC tags of the rectifier then connect
to the power supply.......either way round makes no difference, the rig
will always see the correct polarity.? Fuse as you normally would.
My 2 cents worth from this side of the pond.
Dave G4JBE


Re: Advice and Opinions on the next iteration of the sBitx

 

On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 03:20 PM, IU0KVG wrote:
- push button to shut down the PI
- three position power switch (to limit draw when just fiddling with the sw):
? ? ? ?1 : OFF
? ? ? ?2: digital (PI) only ON
? ? ? ?3: both digital and analog ON?
- 5W VHF (possibly with separate antenna input)
- dedicated split for repeaters offset
- 100W HF
- fan (with speed monitor / alarm)
Interesting post. How long have you been using this device and reading the developments here?
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Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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Check out what I'm working on here, feedback would be appreciated.




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...>
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2024 8:59:08 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3
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We’ve got three instances of destroyed radios in our local group alone. Connectors are nice, but that doesn’t stop people from putting clips on storage batteries backwards. ??

It can be done with series diodes in low power devices ;
P channel mosfets in medium power ;
And in diode controlled relays in really high-powered devices?

Dc-powered radios that ?I consider valuable to me , I generally provide protection for!

Our local group just did an Arduino based Winkeyer ?project, and putting a series diode in there before the voltage regulator was easy ; most of my HF go boxes have mosfet ?protection?


Gordon kx4z?

On Sep 20, 2024, at 11:40, Gary Eldridge - KC8UD via groups.io <gary.video@...> wrote:

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Yes, I see how that will work. But for a QRP rig such as sBitx one certainly doesn’t really need such a big bundle of connectors to carry the load. I understand that it is simply for making the polarity foolproof.?


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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We’ve got three instances of destroyed radios in our local group alone. Connectors are nice, but that doesn’t stop people from putting clips on storage batteries backwards. ??

It can be done with series diodes in low power devices ;
P channel mosfets in medium power ;
And in diode controlled relays in really high-powered devices?

Dc-powered radios that ?I consider valuable to me , I generally provide protection for!

Our local group just did an Arduino based Winkeyer ?project, and putting a series diode in there before the voltage regulator was easy ; most of my HF go boxes have mosfet ?protection?


Gordon kx4z?

On Sep 20, 2024, at 11:40, Gary Eldridge - KC8UD via groups.io <gary.video@...> wrote:

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Yes, I see how that will work. But for a QRP rig such as sBitx one certainly doesn’t really need such a big bundle of connectors to carry the load. I understand that it is simply for making the polarity foolproof.?


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Yes, I see how that will work. But for a QRP rig such as sBitx one certainly doesn’t really need such a big bundle of connectors to carry the load. I understand that it is simply for making the polarity foolproof.?


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Sorry: "Just use it in an hermaphrodite, REVERSIBLE, configuration"


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

@Gary you CAN use PowerPole connectors to prevent reverse connections.
Just use it in an hermaphrodite configuration.
I suggested this as a standard in the Italian ham bullettin (2019, Vol 7/8)
Unfortunately the article (attached below) is in Italian, but looking at the pictures should suffice.?


Re: Advice and Opinions on the next iteration of the sBitx

 

- push button to shut down the PI
- three position power switch (to limit draw when just fiddling with the sw):
? ? ? ?1 : OFF
? ? ? ?2: digital (PI) only ON
? ? ? ?3: both digital and analog ON?
- 5W VHF (possibly with separate antenna input)
- dedicated split for repeaters offset
- 100W HF
- fan (with speed monitor / alarm)



Re: Max pwr on sbitx v3

 

Thanks, Ragav. I think I carried the files forward from V2 as delivered to V3 64bit. However, I did not realize that setting were by unit. I will go to my backups, find the original, and check the values.


Re: Max pwr on sbitx v3

 

Bruce,
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Each unit is individually tested and calibrated with it's own values in the hw_settings file. That said, there is usually very minor deviation from the values in a given batch.
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As OM Gyula suggested, it's a good idea to backup the settings for your device before you make any modifications.
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73,
Ragav
VU3VWR
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Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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There's a whole bunch of ways to do the same thing.? This would work just fine and be cheap.? But you'd also see a voltage drop across 2 diodes, so upwards of 1.4v drop.? Lets say the radio draws 7A through the diodes, that's a power loss 9.8W.? When you're running on a battery, that's a pretty large power loss and a fair amount of heat to have to reject.? Of course that's only at full-duty and on SSB it wouldn't be a big deal, but if you're running digital modes, that would be a lot.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David Lacey via groups.io <g4jbe@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 2:31 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3
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I am surprised no one so far has used the simplest way of protection.
Use a suitably rated (amps) bridge rectifier, hard wire + to rig +
hard wire -ve to rig -ve? the two AC tags of the rectifier then connect
to the power supply.......either way round makes no difference, the rig
will always see the correct polarity.? Fuse as you normally would.
My 2 cents worth from this side of the pond.
Dave G4JBE


Re: Discord communication

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 01:39 PM, JJ - W9JES wrote:
Hi Nick. I sent you a private message to your email. I am willing to help.
Nick is all set. Feel free to contact me at w9jes@... if you need help.? w9jesATarrl.net in case the group redacts my email.


Re: Reverse polarity protection on the sBitx? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I am surprised no one so far has used the simplest way of protection.
Use a suitably rated (amps) bridge rectifier, hard wire + to rig +
hard wire -ve to rig -ve? the two AC tags of the rectifier then connect
to the power supply.......either way round makes no difference, the rig
will always see the correct polarity.? Fuse as you normally would.
My 2 cents worth from this side of the pond.
Dave G4JBE


Re: sBitx CW keyer problems and idea for solution #sBitx #sBITX_v3 #cw #firmware

 

The keyer in JJ's dev branch feels promising. Played around with it on a dummy load and it seems to key correctly at 25 wpm. Planning to activate with it over the weekend and will report back.?


Re: Max pwr on sbitx v3

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 08:17 PM, Bruce W4BRU wrote:
I've seen comments that implies the contents of? hw_settings.ini are individual by serial number, that is by unit. That means that each? board was tested at the assembly point and the setting entered for that unit at that point. Is that true or is it the same for all the units of that model? It's important to me because I have V2 hardware slightly modified but with JJ's 64bit V3 software. This weekend I plan to see if I still have the original hw_settings.ini file and compare it to what I have on my V3 installed version. I need to determine what is correct.
The manufacturer can give you the correct answer to your question. I received the v2 device at the beginning of production, when we had not yet received an adjusted device (April 2023), I had to do this myself. The description of the setting can be found on the sbitx.net page.
This setting is not required for v3.
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Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Discord communication

 

Hi Nick. I sent you a private message to your email. I am willing to help.


Re: Discord communication

 

Is a Discord account necessary for me to access the conversations?? I've tried off and on for six months or so. I do have a Discord account, but when I try to access the BITX20 channel, I'm asked to verify my account by entering my email and phone number. I do that and I'm then informed that my email is already registered. I already know that. Discord's Help suggested I get a different email address and different phone number, so I did and now I have two inaccessible accounts. I don't want to buy a third phone.

Any secret?remedy to this problem?? Sorry to vent here, but I get no help from Discord's "Help", so I have to try here or abandon the idea.

73

Nick, WA5BDU


On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 10:54?AM Jeff Duce via <jefe_de_estado=[email protected]> wrote:



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Shawn Rutledge K7IHZ <social@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2024 4:17:39 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Discord communication
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Can you send the updated link?


Re: Max pwr on sbitx v3

 

On Thu, Sep 19, 2024 at 07:25 AM, HA3HZ wrote:
Gyula,
I've seen comments that implies the contents of? hw_settings.ini are individual by serial number, that is by unit. That means that each? board was tested at the assembly point and the setting entered for that unit at that point. Is that true or is it the same for all the units of that model? It's important to me because I have V2 hardware slightly modified but with JJ's 64bit V3 software. This weekend I plan to see if I still have the original hw_settings.ini file and compare it to what I have on my V3 installed version. I need to determine what is correct.
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(I kept the V2 finals for the 40 or so watts on 80, 40, etc. but installed the dual-ended Zener diodes to protect the finals from excess drive voltages.)
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73, Bruce, W4BRU