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Re: UBITX 40 missing part value

 

Jim

A quick search on the internet? on bitx c107 brings useful info. 100 nF and it is needed.? It is not easy to knock off surface mount caps, I suspect solder paste was applied and the machine ran out of these caps as more than one board was missed. Okay to put a leaded part there.? seach to see info.?

Curt


UBITX 40 missing part value

 

I recently acquired an unassembled BITX40 v.3 at a hamfest. Upon inspection it appears to have C107 chipped off the board. What is the value of this component? Is it required or one of the parts omitted during later manufacturing runs? I am attaching a picture of the area in question for reference.
TNX,
Jim
WD4INX

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Jim
wd4inx


Re: sBITX

 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 09:15 AM, Niels Jalling wrote:
I captured the schematics from Ashar Farhans FDIM 2021 presentation "sBITX - An Open-Source SDR the YOU Can Hack!"
Here is a link to the YouTube video of Ashhar's talk. As of my first skim through it looks really good.


The part about the Arduino as a microphone audio processor is great. I have built a breadboard of the ?SDX, just the audio and control, not the RF portions, so I can borrow the work they did, to create just that for my uBitx. But, also was going to implement an AGC for receive so when I get on the local club net, the sudden blast of audio level from the ham a 1/2 mile from me does not scare my cat so badly that he leaves scratch marks on me as he launches himself from my lap.?

The amazing thing is the uBitx seems to be handling the strong nearby signal with very little overload, meaning just an AGC (microprocessor or otherwise) will handle the problem.?

I was, additionally going to try to add a CW audio filter to the code. Now that I have waited (procrastinated) long enough, it looks like Ashhar will have done the majority of the work; likely better than I was planing to do. Waiting can pay off sometimes.?

I might up the processor from the Arduino Nano clone board to a Raspberry Pi Pico. As I have one, and for like a dollar more in cost, it might be more productive to use a better processor than engage in the sport and raw challenge of squeezing the last cycle out of the Nano.?

Tom, wb6b


Re: [OT] Transistor Tester TC1

 

On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM, James Lynes wrote:
All inductors(2 molded, 1 T68-6) that I currently have on hand show up as resistors. Has anyone else seen this error? I'm I doing something wrong?
Yes, if the inductance is low enough the tester will just see it as a resistor. I would need to go back and check some inductors to see where this happens. Offhand I think I had some 1mh chokes that it could not read.

The "Transistor" tester is an amazing device that through sheer genius of the inventor manages to push so much measuring ability out of merely switching a couple of resistor values in and out, on three test pin.?

Tom, wb6b


Re: [OT] Transistor Tester TC1

James Lynes
 

Curt:
NPN tests fine. Ill try straight piece of wire. You Tube videos show inductors testing correctly on some model of this tester. Found a review that also showed low value inductors being seen as resistors. Still worth $19.

Thanks for the response.

James


Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

 

John,

Thanks for the pointer to the W6PQL document, Jim definitely knows what he is doing.
I've been looking at his stuff longingly for several years now.

In that document, all he says about using coax on the final transformer is this:
"I used coax for the first 2 turns because of the tight coupling and lower losses."

Note that his design "will just loaf along at 1500w with lots of headroom".
Enamel covered magnet wire seems good enough for a 50W amp.
But lower loss is a good thing.

He gives the reason for a cap across the output transformer as:
" A small amount of capacitance (C1) is used to compensate for stray reactance, and is most effective at the top end (6m)."

There's an awful lot I don't fully understand about the design of magnetics.
In particular, exactly why using coax in this way improves coupling and reduces losses.

Jim mentions going with tips in Motorola AN749 for the hybrid coupler up front.
AN749 does talk of using coax in building transformers,
search for "One solution is a multi-turn toroid wound with co-axial cable".
I need to spend some time on AN749, looks like some good material there.
??
Jerry, KE7ER


On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 09:50 AM, John Cunliffe W7ZQ wrote:
Jerry,
Using the braid as the primary has a lot lower loss than just using the inner conductor as teflon wire. That Idea came to me after remembering reading an article on low loss combiners on the W6PQL? page where he does similar to create low loss splitters and combiners.



I decided to try if this broadband transformer scheme worked for the output transformer and it did. Its probably not yet optimized but so far it does what I wanted it to do optimization can come later.

John


Re: [OT] Transistor Tester TC1

 

James

Interesting. I imagine it checks for good npn and pnp??

Does it merely id an inductor or measure inductance?? Note that a molded choke might have an ohm or more of resistance, so if it has to automatically recognize an inductor that could be a challenge. See if it interprets a short piece of wire as a resistor or inductor. Best way is to get more data.?

Curt


[OT] Transistor Tester TC1

James Lynes
 

Hello All:
I just received the Transistor Tester TC1(Amazon $19) as seen on the latest Ham Nation video(may not be the exact model that was shown).

All tests look good except for the inductor test. All inductors(2 molded, 1 T68-6) that I currently have on hand show up as resistors. Has anyone else seen this error? I'm I doing something wrong?

Thanks for the input.
James
KE4MIQ


Re: Audio Filter

 

On 2021-05-30 09:37, John Cunliffe W7ZQ wrote:
I removed R70,
*** That's *perfect*. I shall do exactly that. Thanks, John.

- Jerry KF6VB


Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

John Cunliffe W7ZQ
 

Using the braid as the primary is an interesting trick, but I would probably just strip?
the outer coating and braid off of the inner wire, use that for both windings.

Jerry,
Using the braid as the primary has a lot lower loss than just using the inner conductor as teflon wire. That Idea came to me after remembering reading an article on low loss combiners on the W6PQL? page where he does similar to create low loss splitters and combiners.



I decided to try if this broadband transformer scheme worked for the output transformer and it did. Its probably not yet optimized but so far it does what I wanted it to do optimization can come later.

John


Re: sBITX

 

Neils,?
There are a few minor mods. Don't get to pcb yet. Gimme another few days.

On Sun 30 May, 2021, 9:45 PM Niels Jalling, <niels@...> wrote:
Hi

I captured the schematics from Ashar Farhans FDIM 2021 presentation "sBITX - An Open-Source SDR the YOU Can Hack!"

So I started hacking!
Attached is a rendering of my Sbitx board. The x-tals, transformers and coils are through hole components and will be mounted on the opposite side of the other components. RF-filter and tx-amplifier will be on another board. In the first setup I will use the lpf and bpf from qrplabs.
Size of the board is 50mm by 80mm.

I will mill and drill the board tomorrow and then begin mounting components.

I use an AudioInjector board that sits on top of a RPi4 and I can see a nice peak on the screen when injecting a tone. So the receive part of the software is working. The setup and compile was very easy.
I haven't tried the transmit part yet.

73 de oz9ny, Niels


Re: Audio Filter

John Cunliffe W7ZQ
 

I removed R70,? then used small shielded cables and a relay to switch my audio filter in and out since it did not had a bypass function. The 2 NC contacts are bridged with a 1k resistor to simulate R70 in the out position and the filter is connected to the NO contacts. One could of course use a dpdt switch instead the relay.I chose a small dip relay to keep the actual audio connection short and only route DC from the in/out switch to the relay

John


Re: Audio Filter

 

Jerry

I am thinking it should not matter which lm386 to use at the output. The gain distribution is nicely arranged so the audio filter should work well between the audio amplifiers. Yes keeping RF out of audio on transmit is a challenge, so minimizing audio in wire seems best. I suggest your switch to bypass the hypermite be as close to the it as possible.?

Curt


sBITX

 

Hi

I captured the schematics from Ashar Farhans FDIM 2021 presentation "sBITX - An Open-Source SDR the YOU Can Hack!"

So I started hacking!
Attached is a rendering of my Sbitx board. The x-tals, transformers and coils are through hole components and will be mounted on the opposite side of the other components. RF-filter and tx-amplifier will be on another board. In the first setup I will use the lpf and bpf from qrplabs.
Size of the board is 50mm by 80mm.

I will mill and drill the board tomorrow and then begin mounting components.

I use an AudioInjector board that sits on top of a RPi4 and I can see a nice peak on the screen when injecting a tone. So the receive part of the software is working. The setup and compile was very easy.
I haven't tried the transmit part yet.

73 de oz9ny, Niels


Audio Filter

 

Hello All,

I just put together a Hi-Per-Mite CW audio filter. Would like to install it in the UBITXv6. Where to break the audio chain? I have the schematic, but no board layout. I'm thinking the top of RV4, the volume control pot.

Another idea - U1, the LM386 audio amplifier, is SOCKETED. I could pull the chip, bend out pin 3,
the positive audio input, and just solder to the pin. Of course, I would then have to sneak some little wire into the socket itself.

And then there's the challenge of turning it on & off - or at least, getting it in & out of the signal path. Front panel switches are nice. Not much space though. The whole R/H side is dedicated to the tuning knob. As it should be. Tuning is, after all, the main thing one does with a radio. There is a modicum of space on the L/H side, hiding behind the TSW Raduino card. Just about enough space for the a couple of tiny toggle switches - one for the filter, another one - later - for AGC.

Or maybe I should dig into the TSW Raduino source to add filter control to it...? Maybe CW mode wants the CW filter enabled?

One concept I have thought of - glue a tiny reed switch to the underside of the cabinet top, and enable a function by laying a magnet on it. The cabinet is aluminum, magnetism just goes through.

I don't really like piping low-level audio around the box. Can lead to hum, RF feedback, all sorts of unpleasantness. Although I did recently get a hunk of RG316 coax, just for such things. But to avoid that, I need a relay. Or diode/transistor switching. All this makes a filter in a separate box look good. What makes a separate box look bad though is AGC. I feel that AGC is best picked off the output of the filter - because otherwise strong out-of-audio-band signals can make it pump.

- Jerry KF6VB


Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

 

That amp uses the IRFZ24N FET, seems a better choice than the IRF510
for 12v operation on 20,40,80m.? Not so good at higher frequencies or higher supply voltages.

Compared to the IRF510, it has about the same thermal resistance and gate threshold voltage.
The Vds breakdown is 55v instead of 100v for the IRF510.
A much lower on resistance of 0.07 vs 0.54v for the IRF510.
The bad news is that the total gate charge is 20nC vs 8.3nC.

Would be interesting to see how well the IRFZ24N works in a uBitx.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 05:26 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
I have just finished building a version of W6JL's linear. It has fantastic! performance. 40 watts upto 14 Mhz, 30 watts on 21 Mhz with -30 db IMDR. The changes I made were to replace the output transformer with one made by stacking FT37-43 toroids (4x2) and simplifying the biasing arrangment.?
The biggest challenge is to safely get the heat out of the transistors to outside air.
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Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

 

John,
Thanks for the description.

Teflon covered wire is recommended if building a high powered output transformer
that might get hot.? But you seem to have solved the hot thing by going to a better core.

I'll keep this business of using a scrap of teflon coax in mind,
it could save me from buying some expensive teflon covered wire.
Using the braid as the primary is an interesting trick, but I would probably just strip?
the outer coating and braid off of the inner wire, use that for both windings.

Jerry


On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 10:40 AM, John Cunliffe W7ZQ wrote:
Jerry,
I started with the latest kit.?
The output transformer was done as follow. I had ultra small Teflon coax in my junk box so I took a piece, removed a piece of insulation from one end, tinned it and stripped it back leaving a small amount of braid to attach a bare wire to as one side of the primary. The center became one side of the secondary. Then I made 2 full turns on the binocular core, marked the cable and removed it. Removed the outer insulation of the extra cable that was not inside the core so I ended up with about? 5 inches of cable with? ~2.5 inch of insulation? removed. I then tinned the area close to the insulation and scored it with an exacto knife so that just about 1/16 inch of braid was left.and removed the rest of the braid. So, at this point the cable is as follows . one side center wire tinned and the about 1/16 braid has a piece of bare wire then a 2.5 inch long piece of cable with insulation and braid with the insulation ending showing 1/8 (or shorter) of braid and the center going on another ~2 inches (I used a random long enough piece to make the task easier and then trimmed back the center) now I wound the cable end with the insulation and braid on the torroid for full 2 turns and attach a piece of bare wire to the braid for the second primary connection. So now it looks like this: A binocular core with 2 turns of coax with 2 connections to the shields, one side center about 1 inch and the other side center about 2 inch. Now take that 2 inch center piece and put it through the core one more time for a full turn. Now you have 2 turns of the shield as primary and 3 turns of the center as the secondary. The 100pf cap went parallel to the primary winding it improves the output power. I might build a transformer with 2 cores to see if it is still needed. Why Teflon? Because I had it and? because it doesn't melt when soldering to it. Tinning the screen of Teflon coax is easy and trimming it also.

John


Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

 

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 04:53 AM, Edward Reynolds wrote:
did a quick look/see thru the manual, my Yeasu FT-101E was a pice of cake compared to this transmitter, thanks for the link
Funny, I was just reading some more of the 6B transmitter manual. On page 23 it talks about needing to fill and maintain the level of the DC filament supply electrolytic capacitor with "capacitor fluid".?(Reminds me of a YouTube video where they talked about a garage that told a customer they needed to have their headlight fluid changed.)

Good thing we no longer need to oil and replace bearings in our motor generator sets. And our capacitors are of the revolutionary maintenance free versions.?

Wow, 881 watts (21.5V x 41A) just to run the final amp filament. (And there's a bunch more tubes in the transmitter.) And this is "only" a 1KW transmitter.


Tom, wb6b


Re: RPi C Development

 

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 04:35 PM, Arv Evans wrote:
http://www.gronkradio.net/
The "AllStar" RoIP protocol they mention looks interesting. That for dedicated nodes and a WebRTC interface for web browser based control look like a good combination.?

Tom, wb6b


Re: Cheap Chinese Linear LPF

 

I have just finished building a version of W6JL's linear. It has fantastic! performance. 40 watts upto 14 Mhz, 30 watts on 21 Mhz with -30 db IMDR. The changes I made were to replace the output transformer with one made by stacking FT37-43 toroids (4x2) and simplifying the biasing arrangment.?
The biggest challenge is to safely get the heat out of the transistors to outside air.



On Sat 29 May, 2021, 6:50 PM n2msqrp, <mstangelo@...> wrote:
What transistors does it use?
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I notice they also see a LPF board for 41 dollars.
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I may pick one up and add it to my list of projects.
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Mike N2MS
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On 05/28/2021 10:54 PM jerry@... < jerry@...> wrote:
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On 2021-05-28 19:41, Aaron K5ATG via wrote:
Is there a link for this amp?
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*** Not really. Go on Ebay, search for "100W HF Shortwave", and you
will see
lots of listings for it. It's the one with a clear plastic "roof" on
spacers.
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- Jerry KF6VB
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Aaron K5ATG
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