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Re: Spurious Emission Measurement on stock uBitX

 

Allison san,

Thanks for your info. I tried some apps from Apple Store and seemed any of them might be OK.

I will plot the PA output level as increasing the volume of iPhone.

// hiro, JJ1FXF



2018Äê8ÔÂ18ÈÕ(ÍÁ) 2:59 ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...>:

Hiro san,

To do testing on SSB a audio tone signal source is needed. There are aps for android
and Iphone that do this.? The procedure is generate the 1.5khz tone and inject it into
the microphone input.? Turn audio source volume up until power does not increase
then reduce to the specified 80% of max power for each band.? Repeat this on a
per band basis for best results.? Note power out used for that band.


Allison


Re: #ubitx. Increasing power output

Timothy Fidler
 

bsx 20 this time


Re: #ubitx. Increasing power output

Timothy Fidler
 

I have not got one to play with but the? BSX-20s work better on small signals than 2N2222 because of lower input capacitance and have no VHF roll off? until well above? 300 Mhz - pull up? a datasheet.? Futurelec.com list them but say no stock. Send Futurlec and email .. often they can find stuff? . BEWARE the 15V VCE max.? Beware destroying the PAs Too. Beware the small size of the output transformer on the PAs .? there should be a D sheet uploading with this post for the BSX


Re: N6ALT: Nextion 3.2 inch Enhanced display not displaying right

 

Hi Joe,

Thanks for the tip, it worked great.

Joel
N6ALT


Re: second arduino Smeter firmware

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Re: Raduino Clone kit from W0EB-N5IB #ubitx

V Zecchinelli
 

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Got it.? Thank you sir.

Vince, N1VIN



On 8/17/2018 3:47 PM, Paul KL7FLR wrote:

The Raduino¡¯s used with the uBITX and BITX40 are identical with one exception, the 16 pin P3 connector. The uBitx used a 16 pin right angle header to plug into the main board.? The BITX40 uses a 5 pin molex style connector? at pins 12 thru 16 of P3.

Starting with a bare board you have your choice of which connector to use for the appropriate radio. Totally interchangeable with the one exception.

?

Paul

KL7FLR

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second arduino Smeter firmware

 

Hi All:
After long hiatus from the ubitx, I purchased a 3.5 Nextion LCD works great! I am using KD8CEC second arduino for the S meter, the circuit is built ready to go, however I can't program the arduino until I can find the program .Probably looking in the wrong place, if someone could to steer to me location would be appreciated.
Thanks Ross Bell K7RSB


Re: Spurious Emission Measurement on stock uBitX

 

Arv,
I said that on the basis of the results shown in the table by Hiro. At 15m he has shown the biggest spur at 42Mhz not the one Allison first detected on 23Mhz. For the one at 42Mhz a CB low pass should suffice.


Il 17/ago/2018 20:13, "Arv Evans" <arvid.evans@...> ha scritto:
Iz Oos

Might not want to encourage uBITX users to expect that a CB filter will make it legal
on 15 meters.? The 15M spur is in the 23 MHz range so would not be attenuated by
a 30 MHz LPF.

Arv K7HKL
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM iz oos <and2oosiz2@...> wrote:

Hi Hiro, nice analysis, if I understand right if you add also any 30mhz (also like CB) lowpass filter you may transmit on 15m band. Isn't? Is the Trio tuner a simple pi-tuner? I have just done a variable low pass filter with a double 450pf air variable capacitor a six position switch and a 130-7 toroid and looking at PC the results from my antenna analyzer it seems better than expected.


Il 17/ago/2018 16:39, "JJ1FXF" <jj1fxf@...> ha scritto:
Hi, all.

Attached is a PDF file which shows the results of measuing spurious emission on my uBitX which I haven't modified its hardware/software at all.

Here, in Japan, the spurious emission should be less than -50dBc and so the list indicates I can use my uBitX with a Pi-C antenna tuner, but not on 15m unfortunately.

This time, I checked only the CW transmission beccause I had a problem to measure SSB case. It would be very much appreciated if someone could advise to me.

To measure the spurious emission on SSB, at first I need to saturate the PA output by the mic input of so called "pseudo voice" that is 1.5kHz sine wave, and when the output is saturated by increasing the input leve, then 80% of the input level will be used to measuer spurious emission, the Lab guy explained to me.

However, uBitX output won't be saturated which means I couldn't observe the flat level of PA output as increasing the input (pseudo voice) level, but suddenly the output level falls down to a few mW.

The Lab guy said it would be because uBitX didn't have an ALC - Auto Level Controller of the mic input.

So please advise to me how I can saturate the output (PA) level with such a "pseudo voice" input? Maybe bring an external mic compressor? However, how can I observe the flat level of PA output?

Thank you for reading my long email. Hope someone can help me. If you are interested in screen shots of the spurious analyzer, feel free to email me.

BR,

// hiro, JJ1FXF






Re: #ubitx SSM2167 mic compressor speaker feedback issue - resolved #ubitx

Kevin Rea
 

i put it on my website.. it is a larger image if anyone needs one.


Re: Raduino Clone kit from W0EB-N5IB #ubitx

 

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The Raduino¡¯s used with the uBITX and BITX40 are identical with one exception, the 16 pin P3 connector. The uBitx used a 16 pin right angle header to plug into the main board.? The BITX40 uses a 5 pin molex style connector? at pins 12 thru 16 of P3.

Starting with a bare board you have your choice of which connector to use for the appropriate radio. Totally interchangeable with the one exception.

?

Paul

KL7FLR

?


Re: #ubitx SSM2167 mic compressor speaker feedback issue - resolved #ubitx

Kevin Rea
 

oh, it doesn't show up as larger.. oh well.

kevin


Re: #ubitx SSM2167 mic compressor speaker feedback issue - resolved #ubitx

Kevin Rea
 

hi John,
thanks from everyone for the schematic.
I made a larger copy for everyone just in case it helps.

Kevin Rea


Re: N6ALT: Nextion 3.2 inch Enhanced display not displaying right

 

Hi,

You need to goto and download the nextion 3.2 file
These are files modified to support your full screen.
There are nextion files for 3.5 and 7 inch

Joe
VE1BWV
Joe

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 3:39 PM SV9CVJ Nikos <sv9cvj@...> wrote:
Official Support GUI is for? 2.4", 2.8" LCD, but include 3.2, 3.5 for test (just converted from 2.8")???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Re: uBITx intermittent cw transmit

 

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Joe:
Take your voltmeter and monitor the voltage at the blue wire pin 2 on the Raduino. It should be ~ 0 volts when the key is pressed and +5V when not pressed. If it isn't you have a wiring issue, if it is possible Raduino issue.

Howard

On 8/17/2018 3:15 PM, Joe Milosch wrote:

Hi,
I recently built my ubitx, and after assembling
it received perfectly.  I just got my HAM license,
so I decided to see how the cw key function worked.
There seems to be a problem.

I am using the stock software which came with my
July 2018 delivered ubitx.

The PTT function works perfectly, just the slightest ground
puts the ubitx into Tx voice mode.

With CW, the story is different. 
First, the instructions are pretty shoddy, and only because
I could trace the wires from pictures in some setup instructions
was I able to figure out the wiring to the various 1/8'' female 
connector sockets.

I found there was no mention of the keyer socket PIN 3 connection
to the yellow ground wire of the Arduino, and it seems that
I needed to make a wire jumper to connect the keyer socket ground
to the Arduino yellow wire at PIN 4, the Arduino ground.
I guess they assumed a metal chassis would make the connection?
I have a plastic chassis.

So OK, got that glitched fixed and I fully expected it to work.
I had 5 volts connected to the 4.7k resistor, and the blue and green
wire connections were correct.

When I tried to key, nothing happened. I thought it might be a dirty
straight key, so I tried monmentarily jumpering the blue wire to
ground. It correctly went from 5v to 0v on each contact.

Now this is the weird part. If I repeatedly touched the blue wire
to Arduino ground ( yellow wire ), the cw tx mode would suddenly
start, with TX power and proper sidetone, then suddenly stop.

There is no pattern to trigger it. If I repeatedly touched and 
shorted the blue to yellow ground, I would randomly get
a burst of dits and dahs, then it would stop. I could repeat this
over and over, but without finding a definite pattern.

I thought maybe the Arduino board had a bad solder joint,
or some other intermittent problem, but I'm also wondering
if the stock software is flawed in the cw portion, and the Arduino
is having a hard time detecting the voltage drop of the key.

Before I go any further in ripping this thing apart, I would
hope one of the ubitx experts can provide an answer to this.

Thank You,
Joe Milosch, KN4OND, Mauk, GA, USA








































Re: #ubitx. Increasing power output

 

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2N3866¡¯s work even better¡­

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skip Davis via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 1:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] #ubitx. Increasing power output

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Bo have you tried the 2N2222A or 2N2219¡¯s yet? Although I haven¡¯t added sockets I did replace all 2N3904s with 2N2222A starting with Q90. My output has increased on the upper bands.?

Skip Davis, NC9O


On Aug 17, 2018, at 11:59, Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:

?I know this is an old topic, but I want to do some SIMPLE tinkering & learning.
I put 'socket pins' in for the 6 3904s thinking I could simply find some 'hotter' replacements. ?

Well I tried some 5109 and 2369s found on eBay. No noticeable improvements noted.

Then I tried my hand with LTSPICE, having used in since the 60's and taught it until '06. ?One of the transistors was in their library and I think I added the model for the 5109 correctly.
Not sure my setup is 100%, but I did get similar dismal results.
Anyone have some transistor types that may work.?
Not interested in other mods YET.?
I used to be addicted (and very skilled) in several versions if SPICE. Still have the MicroSim version somewhere.
Bo W4GHV?
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uBITx intermittent cw transmit

Joe Milosch
 

Hi,
I recently built my ubitx, and after assembling
it received perfectly. I just got my HAM license,
so I decided to see how the cw key function worked.
There seems to be a problem.

I am using the stock software which came with my
July 2018 delivered ubitx.

The PTT function works perfectly, just the slightest ground
puts the ubitx into Tx voice mode.

With CW, the story is different.
First, the instructions are pretty shoddy, and only because
I could trace the wires from pictures in some setup instructions
was I able to figure out the wiring to the various 1/8'' female
connector sockets.

I found there was no mention of the keyer socket PIN 3 connection
to the yellow ground wire of the Arduino, and it seems that
I needed to make a wire jumper to connect the keyer socket ground
to the Arduino yellow wire at PIN 4, the Arduino ground.
I guess they assumed a metal chassis would make the connection?
I have a plastic chassis.

So OK, got that glitched fixed and I fully expected it to work.
I had 5 volts connected to the 4.7k resistor, and the blue and green
wire connections were correct.

When I tried to key, nothing happened. I thought it might be a dirty
straight key, so I tried monmentarily jumpering the blue wire to
ground. It correctly went from 5v to 0v on each contact.

Now this is the weird part. If I repeatedly touched the blue wire
to Arduino ground ( yellow wire ), the cw tx mode would suddenly
start, with TX power and proper sidetone, then suddenly stop.

There is no pattern to trigger it. If I repeatedly touched and
shorted the blue to yellow ground, I would randomly get
a burst of dits and dahs, then it would stop. I could repeat this
over and over, but without finding a definite pattern.

I thought maybe the Arduino board had a bad solder joint,
or some other intermittent problem, but I'm also wondering
if the stock software is flawed in the cw portion, and the Arduino
is having a hard time detecting the voltage drop of the key.

Before I go any further in ripping this thing apart, I would
hope one of the ubitx experts can provide an answer to this.

Thank You,
Joe Milosch, KN4OND, Mauk, GA, USA


Re: N6ALT: Nextion 3.2 inch Enhanced display not displaying right

 

Official Support GUI is for? 2.4", 2.8" LCD, but include 3.2, 3.5 for test (just converted from 2.8")???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


Re: #ubitx. Increasing power output

 

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Bo have you tried the 2N2222A or 2N2219¡¯s yet? Although I haven¡¯t added sockets I did replace all 2N3904s with 2N2222A starting with Q90. My output has increased on the upper bands.?

Skip Davis, NC9O

On Aug 17, 2018, at 11:59, Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:

?I know this is an old topic, but I want to do some SIMPLE tinkering & learning.
I put 'socket pins' in for the 6 3904s thinking I could simply find some 'hotter' replacements. ?

Well I tried some 5109 and 2369s found on eBay. No noticeable improvements noted.

Then I tried my hand with LTSPICE, having used in since the 60's and taught it until '06. ?One of the transistors was in their library and I think I added the model for the 5109 correctly.
Not sure my setup is 100%, but I did get similar dismal results.
Anyone have some transistor types that may work.?
Not interested in other mods YET.?
I used to be addicted (and very skilled) in several versions if SPICE. Still have the MicroSim version somewhere.
Bo W4GHV?
??


Re: Spurious Emission Measurement on stock uBitX

 

Iz Oos

Might not want to encourage uBITX users to expect that a CB filter will make it legal
on 15 meters.? The 15M spur is in the 23 MHz range so would not be attenuated by
a 30 MHz LPF.

Arv K7HKL
_._


On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:31 AM iz oos <and2oosiz2@...> wrote:

Hi Hiro, nice analysis, if I understand right if you add also any 30mhz (also like CB) lowpass filter you may transmit on 15m band. Isn't? Is the Trio tuner a simple pi-tuner? I have just done a variable low pass filter with a double 450pf air variable capacitor a six position switch and a 130-7 toroid and looking at PC the results from my antenna analyzer it seems better than expected.


Il 17/ago/2018 16:39, "JJ1FXF" <jj1fxf@...> ha scritto:
Hi, all.

Attached is a PDF file which shows the results of measuing spurious emission on my uBitX which I haven't modified its hardware/software at all.

Here, in Japan, the spurious emission should be less than -50dBc and so the list indicates I can use my uBitX with a Pi-C antenna tuner, but not on 15m unfortunately.

This time, I checked only the CW transmission beccause I had a problem to measure SSB case. It would be very much appreciated if someone could advise to me.

To measure the spurious emission on SSB, at first I need to saturate the PA output by the mic input of so called "pseudo voice" that is 1.5kHz sine wave, and when the output is saturated by increasing the input leve, then 80% of the input level will be used to measuer spurious emission, the Lab guy explained to me.

However, uBitX output won't be saturated which means I couldn't observe the flat level of PA output as increasing the input (pseudo voice) level, but suddenly the output level falls down to a few mW.

The Lab guy said it would be because uBitX didn't have an ALC - Auto Level Controller of the mic input.

So please advise to me how I can saturate the output (PA) level with such a "pseudo voice" input? Maybe bring an external mic compressor? However, how can I observe the flat level of PA output?

Thank you for reading my long email. Hope someone can help me. If you are interested in screen shots of the spurious analyzer, feel free to email me.

BR,

// hiro, JJ1FXF





Re: Spurious Emission Measurement on stock uBitX

 

Hiro san,

To do testing on SSB a audio tone signal source is needed. There are aps for android
and Iphone that do this.? The procedure is generate the 1.5khz tone and inject it into
the microphone input.? Turn audio source volume up until power does not increase
then reduce to the specified 80% of max power for each band.? Repeat this on a
per band basis for best results.? Note power out used for that band.


Allison