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Re: Raduino issue

 

I did pull the raduino out and booted it standalone. It still showed only the firmware. Would it get locked in factory mode?


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 2:45 PM Sam Tedesco <stedesco619@...> wrote:
Thank you! I thought about that. I tried reverting to the original firmware and it was the same. Was tempted to disconnect the entire encoder but left it as is. Will give it a shot.?

On Wed, May 23, 2018, 2:34 PM John <vk2eta@...> wrote:
Hello Sam,

There is a good chance your Raduino is likely working and you have an issue with the encoder.

Since it displays the version at start and nothing more after that it certainly looks like you have the push-button locked or shorted in the down position.

In the factory firmware and the KD8CEC firmware (at least the version you are using), when the push-button is held down at start-up it first waits for the button to be released, then it enters Factory Alignment mode. That's why I suspect the push-button input is held down permanently.

Easy test is to just disconnect the brown wire from the Raduino connector and see if you get the frequency displayed.

All the best,

73, John (VK2ETA)


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

Allison,

I think VK2ETA's approach is good enough for adjusting the power out by a few dB.
He moves where the transmitted signal lies within the 45mhz filter response,
taking it down the skirts to attenuate.? The filter is fairly broad, so the frequency?
response of our 2khz bandwidth audio is not significantly affected.
On receive, the desired signal is put back in the center where it belongs.

? ??/g/BITX20/message/46235
? ??/g/BITX20/message/46241

It could be that this technique raises the level of some close in undesired products,
but not by much if we're only talking a few dB of attenuation..
And I'm not aware of anything undesired that is close enough to matter.

If it works, this gives us a no-hardware method of attenuating the transmitted signal.
Do you see any issues with this approach?

This from Ian:? ?/g/BITX20/message/50144:
? ? "2.ATT function has been added to reduce RF gain (Shift 45Mhz IF)"

Not clear if that's for transmit or receive.
But suggests to me that he has added VK2ETA's trick to his code.


One issue is that the transmitted CW signal never goes through the 45mhz filter.
But that could be fixed by having CW unbalance one of the other two mixers,
and adjusting the firmware accordingly.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 01:15 pm, ajparent1/KB1GMX wrote:

No matter how you do it it will require hardware with my mods or no.

The easy solution is hard to implement as the places to put it are scarce
and they must be in the TX only path.

The most seemingly likely is two RV1 pots with a relay to select the one you want
and a button on the front panel to activate the relay during transmit.? Problem is
where to put the RF parts so there? aren't dragging wires all over and causing havoc.
The most obvious place is? near the edge next to K1. or as a flying PCB with a
relay, diode, two RV1s that drops into the old RV1 spot and two flying wires for
switching.? Lots of assumptions for space to place things.? Using a tiny relay helps.

Allison


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

No, just no.? We are working with a linear or trying to be linear.? Plaing with the voltage to the
finals would be bad.

Allison


Re: Raduino issue

 

Thank you! I thought about that. I tried reverting to the original firmware and it was the same. Was tempted to disconnect the entire encoder but left it as is. Will give it a shot.?


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 2:34 PM John <vk2eta@...> wrote:
Hello Sam,

There is a good chance your Raduino is likely working and you have an issue with the encoder.

Since it displays the version at start and nothing more after that it certainly looks like you have the push-button locked or shorted in the down position.

In the factory firmware and the KD8CEC firmware (at least the version you are using), when the push-button is held down at start-up it first waits for the button to be released, then it enters Factory Alignment mode. That's why I suspect the push-button input is held down permanently.

Easy test is to just disconnect the brown wire from the Raduino connector and see if you get the frequency displayed.

All the best,

73, John (VK2ETA)


Re: Raduino issue

 

Hello Sam,

There is a good chance your Raduino is likely working and you have an issue with the encoder.

Since it displays the version at start and nothing more after that it certainly looks like you have the push-button locked or shorted in the down position.

In the factory firmware and the KD8CEC firmware (at least the version you are using), when the push-button is held down at start-up it first waits for the button to be released, then it enters Factory Alignment mode. That's why I suspect the push-button input is held down permanently.

Easy test is to just disconnect the brown wire from the Raduino connector and see if you get the frequency displayed.

All the best,

73, John (VK2ETA)


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

As this is for low power, how about separating out the power wire going to the final amp stage and using one of the buck or buck/boost converters from China that is on ebay ?? They have a pot on them and you can set the voltage very easy, especially if the pot is removed and a larger one put on the front of the ubitx.

The boards are small and only a few dollars shipped from China.




On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:15 PM, ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote:
No matter how you do it it will require hardware with my mods or no.

The easy solution is hard to implement as the places to put it are scarce
and they must be in the TX only path.

The most seemingly likely is two RV1 pots with a relay to select the one you want
and a button on the front panel to activate the relay during transmit.? Problem is
where to put the RF parts so there? aren't dragging wires all over and causing havoc.
The most obvious place is? near the edge next to K1. or as a flying PCB with a
relay, diode, two RV1s that drops into the old RV1 spot and two flying wires for
switching.? Lots of assumptions for space to place things.? Using a tiny relay helps.

Allison



Re: spurious signals on FT8 #ubitx

 

Input levels to any transmitter for any digital modes ARE critical. There are guidances published in various places about how to set up the modulation levels, some give exact instructions for good results and some are more vague and don't give such good results. I ran into difficulties running PSK31 some years ago and learnt the hard way. Now I'm preparing to get going with these new modes and am studying the setting myself so I can't give off the cuff help.

There is one general pointer I can repeat - when you arrive at a suitable level back it off some 5% or even 10%.

Good luck.


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Sure, its fun. Just like girls used to be.?

I may just order another whole kit myself too. I can always build an analog VFO for the one I have. That would keep me out of trouble.

Best wishes.

Mike

On Wed, May 23, 2018, 4:29 PM Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:
Just saw an idea for a use for the Raduino so I'll order a whole kit.?
You're right you don't know for sure where the problem is.

Ain't this a fun project??
Bo W4GHV '54


Re: RF power chain mods and improvements..

 

Mike,

That is true but let me finish first.? ?You can buy them and try them too and see if
with a sample size greater than 1 it behaves.

As a QRP rig it RX power needs are really good at around 160 ma .? On TX it
consumes power with up to 5 relays and all the stages with high bias with no
modulation its idle current is between 600 to 800ma and reaches over 2A.? For
reasonable battery ops use a big battery.


Allison

Yes its a cute thing and fun to ponder mods for.


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Bo Barry
 

Just saw an idea for a use for the Raduino so I'll order a whole kit.?
You're right you don't know for sure where the problem is.

Ain't this a fun project??
Bo W4GHV '54


Re: Bitx without raduino #ubitx

Bo Barry
 

Wow, thanks for info on the new project for me.
Gonna order the whole thing.


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Good idea, Bo.?

The only thing I worry about is, what if there is more than just a Raduino that is at issue with the one I received. I don't want to sell you junk.?
If you were nearby in NY State I'd hand deliver it to you and if there was an issue I'd just take it back. To mail it back and forth cross country, should there be an issue with it, becomes why did we bother fast.

I sent teamhfsigs@... a request at 1pm NY time today. I'll give them a day or two to see if they can ship out the part. If not and your still willing then I'll pass the one I have to you if you want it.

Mike


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 3:52 PM Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:
Sell me yours and order a new one. ? I don't want the Raduino or display. Bo W4GHV?


Re: Best way to unsolder the Nano?

Bo Barry
 

Yep! Heat it, blow hard, punch hole with a tapered punch, moving it so it doesn't get stuck.


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

No matter how you do it it will require hardware with my mods or no.

The easy solution is hard to implement as the places to put it are scarce
and they must be in the TX only path.

The most seemingly likely is two RV1 pots with a relay to select the one you want
and a button on the front panel to activate the relay during transmit.? Problem is
where to put the RF parts so there? aren't dragging wires all over and causing havoc.
The most obvious place is? near the edge next to K1. or as a flying PCB with a
relay, diode, two RV1s that drops into the old RV1 spot and two flying wires for
switching.? Lots of assumptions for space to place things.? Using a tiny relay helps.

Allison


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Thanks, I will talk to Bo about this. The email address listed on the help page is an error too. The address that reaches them is: teamhfsigs@...


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:50 PM Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
I kind of thought there was a buy option, and that maybe it was removed when they redid the website for the uBitx.
Special address is in the second paragraph here:??

I think you should ask Bo first.
He wants a uBitx without a Raduino.
A match made in heaven.

If the rig really did arrive non-functional and this was not some miswire issue,?hfsignals should at least be told

Jerry

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:20 am, Mike aka KC2WVB wrote:
Thanks Jerry. I did not see a click to order button on HF Signals web page nor did I see an email address for special orders like this. Did I miss what is there or did their page change?
. . .


Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

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Hello Kees

As I understand it for France and for 1 kit each pay $ 14 port. But what is the price for both kits?

Please help me.

Gilles F1BFU


Le 23 mai 2018 ¨¤ 21:53, Kees T <windy10605@...> a ¨¦crit :

OK, the pass 2 boards have arrived, they look good so, let er' rip.

Ordering instructions are in the attachment and a copy is in the Files section under my call. Not sure how all this is going to work out due to the qtys ....let's see.?

Please remember I'm still only one retired guy sitting at one table.

73 Kees K5BCQ
<Ordering Instructions for the AGC and Click Mini Kits.doc>


Re: share your BITX success stories

Bo Barry
 

I was referred to the audio input to the rig from the usb sound card from a PC.
I found spurious signals doing FT8, and reduced the audio (and resulting output power) to reduce them.
I'm gonna meter it somehow to keep it optimum.

Tnx input! Bo


Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

OK, the pass 2 boards have arrived, they look good so, let er' rip.

Ordering instructions are in the attachment and a copy is in the Files section under my call. Not sure how all this is going to work out due to the qtys ....let's see.

Please remember I'm still only one retired guy sitting at one table.

73 Kees K5BCQ


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Bo Barry
 

Sell me yours and order a new one. ? I don't want the Raduino or display. Bo W4GHV?


Re: Raduino CAD Files

 

Curious.? According to section 4.3 page 27 of that document, the debugger burned into ROM supports:
? ? USART? (or UART),? USB,? I2C,? SPI,? and? CAN

I know the UART can be spoken to directly from the Arduino.
Not sure about the other options.

UART is probably fast enough for most of us at 57600 baud.
Even if you have 512kbytes of flash to load, that's still only 512*1024*10/57600 = 91 seconds.
That's just the raw UART transfer times, protocol used and waiting for flash to program will extend that best case time.
I'll stick with my UART.

Jerry


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 08:27 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
2) Use the UART debugger permanently burned into processor ROM by ST at the factory.
? ??
It's always present, is ROM not flash in that it can't be erased.? Probably supported by ST processors only.
I prefer this method, as I find a UART easy and familiar and I already have the hardware:
? ??
A description of that cp2102? ?USB-to-UART adapter is in post 50027, there are plenty of other such devices.?
If things don't work, can first debug that USB-to-UART adapter by tying TXD to RXD for loopback mode,
and try talking to it from something like a VT100? terminal emulation program.? If anybody still knows what that is.