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Date

uBitx IRF510 to IRF510 physical measurement

 

looking to buy a large heatsink to use on my uBitx when it arrives. Can someone (that has a uBitx) measure on center to on center from one irf510 to the other.

looking at using this one:

Aluminum Heat Sink Heatsink Module Cooler Fin for High Power Amplifier Transistor Semiconductor Devices with Dense 24 pcs Fins 5.9"(L) x 2.3"(W) x 0.98"(H) 1pc/ 150 mm (L) x 59mm (W) x 25mm (H)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073VDVVP5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_xsrsAb5YJE73T

Thank you

Bill ng1p


Re: elves are at it

Vince Vielhaber
 

So did I, my date's different from yours tho. I only ordered Thurs nite.

Vince.

On 12/31/2017 09:11 AM, WA9GQT via Groups.Io wrote:
I just received this post today(Dec 31).

Dear Customer,
Happy New Year!

We have received your payment of USD 119 on December 23, 2017 through
Paypal. Your payment has been included in the 'Pre order' list. The
orders are being shipped in the order of the payment received. It is
difficult for us to estimate the shipping date for your order. However,
we are putting our best efforts to ship them asap. The tracking details
of the shipment will be updated on the Paypal transaction once the order
is shipped.
We are overwhelmed with your response for micro BITX and we are
encouraged to do better and roll out new products.
Please cooperate with us for the delay in shipping your orders. We look
forward to your continued patronage. In case, you have any issues, get
in touch with us at hfsignals@... <mailto:hfsignals@...>

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Thank you Ashhar
Happy New Year,
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--
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Re: A dual-band transceiver - trcv005.pdf

 

Interesting.
Just months prior to the bidi thing of???
Back when many of us still had dark hair.
Lots of relays and 2n3866's.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 07:59 am, Michael Hagen wrote:


Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

Steve Black
 

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On 12/31/2017 11:26 AM, K9HZ wrote:

Well my company will manufacture the tuner, but i will need a bunch of beta testers to work any bugs out. ?


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?

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Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

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Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

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On Dec 31, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...> wrote:

?If you guys make this happen, I'm going to be rather amazed.? ?Even if it merely does a clunky search search search algorithm in the beginning......


It can later do the intellituner thing with the smith chart type calculations.? ?


I'm able to actuate my MFJ 993B intellituner easily on 80 meters and usually on 40 and sometimes higher with my uBitx running just 12 volts to the finals and doing digital.? ?But that thing was about $270...........


As Ashhar pointed out....someone should form a company.? ?Crowd-fund it if you wish.? ? Get printed circuit boards.? (I even learned how to do that!)? ?think about how to make sure it works for every possible mode & application.....


For scanning systems like WINLINK, it would be wonderful if it could move to memory positions on RECEIVE (which means the VFO has to output something, or you have to use a frequency counter to watch it)


For ALE, the freuqncy changes are TOO FAST to follow with relays.


Cheers.

gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!
?
I agree with Rod...it should have its own Nano. The issue really isn't the processing power, but the ?BITX I/O lines are pretty scarce. Plus, you can buy the Nano for $3, so why not? Finally, it would make the software development a little easier since could be run "alone" during testing.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Rod Self <km6sn@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!

William,

Count me in.

I would be inclined to implement it it a separate case to be used with other rigs,also.

What are your (er) current thoughts on separate Nano vs integrate into ubitx's Nano?

Hope it has its own Nano, and does not rely on the ubitx. No problem if not, I can simply supply a Nano and make the tuner believe it is 'talking' to the ubitx.

Maybe I will come up with a stand-alone-controller-project for your tuner, so it can be driven with two wires, start and done.

I am interested in supporting this project.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN





On 12/29/2017 07:05 AM, K9HZ wrote:
So after finishing up most of my projects a few days ago¡­ I really needed something to do¡­ so I put on the drawing board¡­ a 100w automatic tuner that can work with the uBITx (intended to go inside the same case actually) that provides power, SWR, band memory for same antennas, low power tune, bypass, etc. all in a kit form for about $30.? I¡¯m prototyping the think now and will work on the tuning/communications code (to integrate into the Raduino) shortly.? I¡¯ve contacted a few of you off-channel to work out some protocol/communication issues¡­? but Stay tuned (double play on words there)! ???
?
?
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?
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
?
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Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
Good pickups!
?
So the ALE (automatic link establishment) crowd, much like the WINLINK crowd, tend to use LOTS of bands....and thus they find ways to make their antenna systems work on mulltiple bands.? ?Here are some of the most popular ways:
?
1.? ?Fan Dipoles (time honored technique of tying multiple dipoles together at the CENTER, and the energy tends to go to the correct one, since all the others present much higher impedances.? ?The wires "fan" out with usually wooden spreaders at the? end and some string involved to keep them somewhat separate.? ?Been there done that many times, my college ham club has a 3-band unit up on the top of an 11 story building rightnow that I built for them.? ?Build for yourself, dirt cheap.?
?
2.? Auto-tuners? --- everyone makes these now and many can tune as soon as they see RF, or even return to previous settings that were memorized.? ?LDG,? and others.? ?Low power versions for $100? ?End fed wire to balanced line fed dipoles---they work with lots of different kinds of wire.?
?
3.? Inherently multiband antennas:? ?example, full wavelength loops.? ?Build for yourself.? ?
?
4.? Carefully tuned end-fed transformer-fed antennas --- there are now several of these on the market and they give an acceptable SWR on mulltiple harmonically related bands.? ?Tend to be close to $100
?
5.? (the one I dislike)? resistively terminated folded dipoles --- these use a resistor to make up for what a folded dipole can't create and give an SWR that is "acceptable" literally across EVERY FREQUENCY in a decade of frequencies.? ?3-30 MHz.? ?The tradeoff is loss, as much as 10 db at times.? And they generally are pricey.
?
6.? There are some multi-band vertical antennas on the market that are basically vertical fan dipoles, but scrunched up in a nice package.? ?An elderly ham in my city has one, 32 feet tall....a gang of us put it up and doggone it does from from 40 meters all the way through 6 meters
?
?
And there are probably many more....
?
Gordon

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Arvo KD9HLC via Groups.Io <arvopl@...>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
An automatic tuner protects the rig during TX.? If the SWR is bad during TX, some of the signal coming out of the transmitter is reflected by the antenna back into the radio where it can cause damage.

That said, RX is optimized by a properly tuned antenna, but some good amount of signal still makes into the radio when receiving, even when the antenna is not perfect.

So I assume Doc G? is scanning for radio traffic, and then when he finds some if he wants to transmit he does something about his SWR for that frequency.




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Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

philip yates
 

Way above my head, but very interested in this project.?
Would be interested in something that could be supplied as a built PCB, and just needed the controls,
plugs and sockets etc. connecting up, and of course boxing.
Would look great added as part of the Bitx - uBitx line up.

Phil - G7BZD


On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:23 PM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:
That was the plan from the start.? Even with its own nano I need 18 latching digital lines so ill be doing some expanding/latching/mux-ing.?

What I'm struggling with at the moment is using latching relays (expensive) vs the added current from all of the relays if they are not latching.? Not good for battery ops.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

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On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

I agree with Rod...it should have its own Nano. The issue really isn't the processing power, but the ?BITX I/O lines are pretty scarce. Plus, you can buy the Nano for $3, so why not? Finally, it would make the software development a little easier since could be run "alone" during testing.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Rod Self <km6sn@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!

William,

Count me in.

I would be inclined to implement it it a separate case to be used with other rigs,also.

What are your (er) current thoughts on separate Nano vs integrate into ubitx's Nano?

Hope it has its own Nano, and does not rely on the ubitx. No problem if not, I can simply supply a Nano and make the tuner believe it is 'talking' to the ubitx.

Maybe I will come up with a stand-alone-controller-project for your tuner, so it can be driven with two wires, start and done.

I am interested in supporting this project.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN





On 12/29/2017 07:05 AM, K9HZ wrote:
So after finishing up most of my projects a few days ago¡­ I really needed something to do¡­ so I put on the drawing board¡­ a 100w automatic tuner that can work with the uBITx (intended to go inside the same case actually) that provides power, SWR, band memory for same antennas, low power tune, bypass, etc. all in a kit form for about $30.? I¡¯m prototyping the think now and will work on the tuning/communications code (to integrate into the Raduino) shortly.? I¡¯ve contacted a few of you off-channel to work out some protocol/communication issues¡­? but Stay tuned (double play on words there)! ???
?
?
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
?
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
?
Owner ¨C Operator
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Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
Good pickups!
?
So the ALE (automatic link establishment) crowd, much like the WINLINK crowd, tend to use LOTS of bands....and thus they find ways to make their antenna systems work on mulltiple bands.? ?Here are some of the most popular ways:
?
1.? ?Fan Dipoles (time honored technique of tying multiple dipoles together at the CENTER, and the energy tends to go to the correct one, since all the others present much higher impedances.? ?The wires "fan" out with usually wooden spreaders at the? end and some string involved to keep them somewhat separate.? ?Been there done that many times, my college ham club has a 3-band unit up on the top of an 11 story building rightnow that I built for them.? ?Build for yourself, dirt cheap.?
?
2.? Auto-tuners? --- everyone makes these now and many can tune as soon as they see RF, or even return to previous settings that were memorized.? ?LDG,? and others.? ?Low power versions for $100? ?End fed wire to balanced line fed dipoles---they work with lots of different kinds of wire.?
?
3.? Inherently multiband antennas:? ?example, full wavelength loops.? ?Build for yourself.? ?
?
4.? Carefully tuned end-fed transformer-fed antennas --- there are now several of these on the market and they give an acceptable SWR on mulltiple harmonically related bands.? ?Tend to be close to $100
?
5.? (the one I dislike)? resistively terminated folded dipoles --- these use a resistor to make up for what a folded dipole can't create and give an SWR that is "acceptable" literally across EVERY FREQUENCY in a decade of frequencies.? ?3-30 MHz.? ?The tradeoff is loss, as much as 10 db at times.? And they generally are pricey.
?
6.? There are some multi-band vertical antennas on the market that are basically vertical fan dipoles, but scrunched up in a nice package.? ?An elderly ham in my city has one, 32 feet tall....a gang of us put it up and doggone it does from from 40 meters all the way through 6 meters
?
?
And there are probably many more....
?
Gordon

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Arvo KD9HLC via Groups.Io <arvopl@...>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
An automatic tuner protects the rig during TX.? If the SWR is bad during TX, some of the signal coming out of the transmitter is reflected by the antenna back into the radio where it can cause damage.

That said, RX is optimized by a properly tuned antenna, but some good amount of signal still makes into the radio when receiving, even when the antenna is not perfect.

So I assume Doc G? is scanning for radio traffic, and then when he finds some if he wants to transmit he does something about his SWR for that frequency.




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Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

 

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Well my company will manufacture the tuner, but i will need a bunch of beta testers to work any bugs out. ?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 31, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...> wrote:

?If you guys make this happen, I'm going to be rather amazed.? ?Even if it merely does a clunky search search search algorithm in the beginning......


It can later do the intellituner thing with the smith chart type calculations.? ?


I'm able to actuate my MFJ 993B intellituner easily on 80 meters and usually on 40 and sometimes higher with my uBitx running just 12 volts to the finals and doing digital.? ?But that thing was about $270...........


As Ashhar pointed out....someone should form a company.? ?Crowd-fund it if you wish.? ? Get printed circuit boards.? (I even learned how to do that!)? ?think about how to make sure it works for every possible mode & application.....


For scanning systems like WINLINK, it would be wonderful if it could move to memory positions on RECEIVE (which means the VFO has to output something, or you have to use a frequency counter to watch it)


For ALE, the freuqncy changes are TOO FAST to follow with relays.


Cheers.

gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 8:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!
?
I agree with Rod...it should have its own Nano. The issue really isn't the processing power, but the ?BITX I/O lines are pretty scarce. Plus, you can buy the Nano for $3, so why not? Finally, it would make the software development a little easier since could be run "alone" during testing.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Rod Self <km6sn@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!

William,

Count me in.

I would be inclined to implement it it a separate case to be used with other rigs,also.

What are your (er) current thoughts on separate Nano vs integrate into ubitx's Nano?

Hope it has its own Nano, and does not rely on the ubitx. No problem if not, I can simply supply a Nano and make the tuner believe it is 'talking' to the ubitx.

Maybe I will come up with a stand-alone-controller-project for your tuner, so it can be driven with two wires, start and done.

I am interested in supporting this project.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN





On 12/29/2017 07:05 AM, K9HZ wrote:
So after finishing up most of my projects a few days ago¡­ I really needed something to do¡­ so I put on the drawing board¡­ a 100w automatic tuner that can work with the uBITx (intended to go inside the same case actually) that provides power, SWR, band memory for same antennas, low power tune, bypass, etc. all in a kit form for about $30.? I¡¯m prototyping the think now and will work on the tuning/communications code (to integrate into the Raduino) shortly.? I¡¯ve contacted a few of you off-channel to work out some protocol/communication issues¡­? but Stay tuned (double play on words there)! ???
?
?
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
?
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
?
Owner ¨C Operator
Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it:
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
Good pickups!
?
So the ALE (automatic link establishment) crowd, much like the WINLINK crowd, tend to use LOTS of bands....and thus they find ways to make their antenna systems work on mulltiple bands.? ?Here are some of the most popular ways:
?
1.? ?Fan Dipoles (time honored technique of tying multiple dipoles together at the CENTER, and the energy tends to go to the correct one, since all the others present much higher impedances.? ?The wires "fan" out with usually wooden spreaders at the? end and some string involved to keep them somewhat separate.? ?Been there done that many times, my college ham club has a 3-band unit up on the top of an 11 story building rightnow that I built for them.? ?Build for yourself, dirt cheap.?
?
2.? Auto-tuners? --- everyone makes these now and many can tune as soon as they see RF, or even return to previous settings that were memorized.? ?LDG,? and others.? ?Low power versions for $100? ?End fed wire to balanced line fed dipoles---they work with lots of different kinds of wire.?
?
3.? Inherently multiband antennas:? ?example, full wavelength loops.? ?Build for yourself.? ?
?
4.? Carefully tuned end-fed transformer-fed antennas --- there are now several of these on the market and they give an acceptable SWR on mulltiple harmonically related bands.? ?Tend to be close to $100
?
5.? (the one I dislike)? resistively terminated folded dipoles --- these use a resistor to make up for what a folded dipole can't create and give an SWR that is "acceptable" literally across EVERY FREQUENCY in a decade of frequencies.? ?3-30 MHz.? ?The tradeoff is loss, as much as 10 db at times.? And they generally are pricey.
?
6.? There are some multi-band vertical antennas on the market that are basically vertical fan dipoles, but scrunched up in a nice package.? ?An elderly ham in my city has one, 32 feet tall....a gang of us put it up and doggone it does from from 40 meters all the way through 6 meters
?
?
And there are probably many more....
?
Gordon

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Arvo KD9HLC via Groups.Io <arvopl@...>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
An automatic tuner protects the rig during TX.? If the SWR is bad during TX, some of the signal coming out of the transmitter is reflected by the antenna back into the radio where it can cause damage.

That said, RX is optimized by a properly tuned antenna, but some good amount of signal still makes into the radio when receiving, even when the antenna is not perfect.

So I assume Doc G? is scanning for radio traffic, and then when he finds some if he wants to transmit he does something about his SWR for that frequency.




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Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

 

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That was the plan from the start. ?Even with its own nano I need 18 latching digital lines so ill be doing some expanding/latching/mux-ing.?

What I'm struggling with at the moment is using latching relays (expensive) vs the added current from all of the relays if they are not latching. ?Not good for battery ops.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

I agree with Rod...it should have its own Nano. The issue really isn't the processing power, but the ?BITX I/O lines are pretty scarce. Plus, you can buy the Nano for $3, so why not? Finally, it would make the software development a little easier since could be run "alone" during testing.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Rod Self <km6sn@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Tuner? Well Sure!

William,

Count me in.

I would be inclined to implement it it a separate case to be used with other rigs,also.

What are your (er) current thoughts on separate Nano vs integrate into ubitx's Nano?

Hope it has its own Nano, and does not rely on the ubitx. No problem if not, I can simply supply a Nano and make the tuner believe it is 'talking' to the ubitx.

Maybe I will come up with a stand-alone-controller-project for your tuner, so it can be driven with two wires, start and done.

I am interested in supporting this project.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN





On 12/29/2017 07:05 AM, K9HZ wrote:
So after finishing up most of my projects a few days ago¡­ I really needed something to do¡­ so I put on the drawing board¡­ a 100w automatic tuner that can work with the uBITx (intended to go inside the same case actually) that provides power, SWR, band memory for same antennas, low power tune, bypass, etc. all in a kit form for about $30.? I¡¯m prototyping the think now and will work on the tuning/communications code (to integrate into the Raduino) shortly.? I¡¯ve contacted a few of you off-channel to work out some protocol/communication issues¡­? but Stay tuned (double play on words there)! ???
?
?
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
?
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois
?
Owner ¨C Operator
Villa Grand Piton ¨C J68HZ
Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.
Rent it:
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
Good pickups!
?
So the ALE (automatic link establishment) crowd, much like the WINLINK crowd, tend to use LOTS of bands....and thus they find ways to make their antenna systems work on mulltiple bands.? ?Here are some of the most popular ways:
?
1.? ?Fan Dipoles (time honored technique of tying multiple dipoles together at the CENTER, and the energy tends to go to the correct one, since all the others present much higher impedances.? ?The wires "fan" out with usually wooden spreaders at the? end and some string involved to keep them somewhat separate.? ?Been there done that many times, my college ham club has a 3-band unit up on the top of an 11 story building rightnow that I built for them.? ?Build for yourself, dirt cheap.?
?
2.? Auto-tuners? --- everyone makes these now and many can tune as soon as they see RF, or even return to previous settings that were memorized.? ?LDG,? and others.? ?Low power versions for $100? ?End fed wire to balanced line fed dipoles---they work with lots of different kinds of wire.?
?
3.? Inherently multiband antennas:? ?example, full wavelength loops.? ?Build for yourself.? ?
?
4.? Carefully tuned end-fed transformer-fed antennas --- there are now several of these on the market and they give an acceptable SWR on mulltiple harmonically related bands.? ?Tend to be close to $100
?
5.? (the one I dislike)? resistively terminated folded dipoles --- these use a resistor to make up for what a folded dipole can't create and give an SWR that is "acceptable" literally across EVERY FREQUENCY in a decade of frequencies.? ?3-30 MHz.? ?The tradeoff is loss, as much as 10 db at times.? And they generally are pricey.
?
6.? There are some multi-band vertical antennas on the market that are basically vertical fan dipoles, but scrunched up in a nice package.? ?An elderly ham in my city has one, 32 feet tall....a gang of us put it up and doggone it does from from 40 meters all the way through 6 meters
?
?
And there are probably many more....
?
Gordon

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Arvo KD9HLC via Groups.Io <arvopl@...>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
?
An automatic tuner protects the rig during TX.? If the SWR is bad during TX, some of the signal coming out of the transmitter is reflected by the antenna back into the radio where it can cause damage.

That said, RX is optimized by a properly tuned antenna, but some good amount of signal still makes into the radio when receiving, even when the antenna is not perfect.

So I assume Doc G? is scanning for radio traffic, and then when he finds some if he wants to transmit he does something about his SWR for that frequency.




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Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

 

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Yes it will be powered by a Nano and can be used stand-alone with a second Nano for display/interface (showing Power, SWR, status, etc). That way it integrates with the uBITx devices easily and any other radio or stand alone with the second Nano. Even your PC if thats what you prefer.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

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On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:49 AM, Rod Self <km6sn@...> wrote:

William,

Count me in.

I would be inclined to implement it it a separate case to be used with other rigs,also.

What are your (er) current thoughts on separate Nano vs integrate into ubitx's Nano?

Hope it has its own Nano, and does not rely on the ubitx. No problem if not, I can simply supply a Nano and make the tuner believe it is 'talking' to the ubitx.

Maybe I will come up with a stand-alone-controller-project for your tuner, so it can be driven with two wires, start and done.

I am interested in supporting this project.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN





On 12/29/2017 07:05 AM, K9HZ wrote:

So after finishing up most of my projects a few days ago¡­ I really needed something to do¡­ so I put on the drawing board¡­ a 100w automatic tuner that can work with the uBITx (intended to go inside the same case actually) that provides power, SWR, band memory for same antennas, low power tune, bypass, etc. all in a kit form for about $30.? I¡¯m prototyping the think now and will work on the tuning/communications code (to integrate into the Raduino) shortly.? I¡¯ve contacted a few of you off-channel to work out some protocol/communication issues¡­? but Stay tuned (double play on words there)! ???

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 8:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX

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Good pickups!

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So the ALE (automatic link establishment) crowd, much like the WINLINK crowd, tend to use LOTS of bands....and thus they find ways to make their antenna systems work on mulltiple bands.? ?Here are some of the most popular ways:

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1.? ?Fan Dipoles (time honored technique of tying multiple dipoles together at the CENTER, and the energy tends to go to the correct one, since all the others present much higher impedances.? ?The wires "fan" out with usually wooden spreaders at the? end and some string involved to keep them somewhat separate.? ?Been there done that many times, my college ham club has a 3-band unit up on the top of an 11 story building rightnow that I built for them.? ?Build for yourself, dirt cheap.?

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2.? Auto-tuners? --- everyone makes these now and many can tune as soon as they see RF, or even return to previous settings that were memorized.? ?LDG,? and others.? ?Low power versions for $100? ?End fed wire to balanced line fed dipoles---they work with lots of different kinds of wire.?

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3.? Inherently multiband antennas:? ?example, full wavelength loops.? ?Build for yourself.? ?

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4.? Carefully tuned end-fed transformer-fed antennas --- there are now several of these on the market and they give an acceptable SWR on mulltiple harmonically related bands.? ?Tend to be close to $100

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5.? (the one I dislike)? resistively terminated folded dipoles --- these use a resistor to make up for what a folded dipole can't create and give an SWR that is "acceptable" literally across EVERY FREQUENCY in a decade of frequencies.? ?3-30 MHz.? ?The tradeoff is loss, as much as 10 db at times.? And they generally are pricey.

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6.? There are some multi-band vertical antennas on the market that are basically vertical fan dipoles, but scrunched up in a nice package.? ?An elderly ham in my city has one, 32 feet tall....a gang of us put it up and doggone it does from from 40 meters all the way through 6 meters

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And there are probably many more....

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Gordon


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Arvo KD9HLC via Groups.Io <arvopl@...>
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX

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An automatic tuner protects the rig during TX.? If the SWR is bad during TX, some of the signal coming out of the transmitter is reflected by the antenna back into the radio where it can cause damage.

That said, RX is optimized by a properly tuned antenna, but some good amount of signal still makes into the radio when receiving, even when the antenna is not perfect.

So I assume Doc G? is scanning for radio traffic, and then when he finds some if he wants to transmit he does something about his SWR for that frequency.



Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG

 

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?Oh that looks good. I'll see about ordering one and adding it to the plan, additionally I'm thinking of some vents above and below the finals. I've not got time to make and sell these, but there are plenty of hackspaces scattered around the world that can help, as well as commerical manufacturers of course :)


?Happy new year everyone!


-Cheers, Max.


On 31/12/17 15:16, Doug W wrote:

Very nice Max.
Might I suggest adding a provision for a panel mount USB extension like this one...



I can fumble around in Inkscape but I am far from proficient at it.




A dual-band transceiver - trcv005.pdf

 



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Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

M Garza
 

There are several tuner projects based on Arduino.? Here is one.

You can find schematics for almost all the major vendors out there.? The setup / hardware is basically all the same.

The hardware does not seem difficult.? The L match seems to be the most common.? I would use latching relays, so it could use very low power when not tuning, like the Elecraft T1 tuner.? The magic would be in the programming of the tuning subroutines.

Marco - KG5PRT?

On Dec 31, 2017 8:42 AM, "Rod Self" <km6sn@...> wrote:
Hi All,

some time ago I built a single-ended version of Farhan's tuner shown here:



It is a basic L network with binary-weighted C and L values, switchable to either Hi or Low Z.

My operational impressions:

1. It is amazingly simple to tune up to an unknown load, and

2. even when the impedance mismatch is severe, switching in another tap of L or C shows easily-readable improvement in reflected voltage, which

3. gives a useful clue as to what to switch next, and

4. it is probably not necessary to use reflected voltage and phase readings- reflected voltage is probably sufficient, and

5. it would be simple to relay drive it and use a Nano to tune it.

So, I decided that when I got around-to-it, I would? automate it with a Nano. It just has not happened yet.

Just some operational feedback.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN




Re: #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 #bitx40 #parts

 

Surface mount R's and C's and transistors (such as the mmbt3904 of the uBitx)
are much cheaper than their long-legged cousins.
Here's roughly the same 0805 NP0 470pf cap over on Mouser at $6.40 for 10 (vs his $5 on Amazon)
? ??581-MM051A471JCT2A? ? (a mouser part number)
The advantage of Mouser is you know you are getting a name brand cap and have a datasheet to check other specs.

The 0805 size is one down from the original 1206 size found on the uBitx, but will solder into place easily.
Much of the DIY electronics market is at the 0805 size for surface mount parts.
I find that at comfortable size to work with, can solder them in place easily without special magnification.
The 0603's are still usable, with 0402's my old eyes and blunt instrument soldering iron start having trouble.

I'm quite sure his Amazon purchase will work fine.
Though it's worth getting a DVM with capacitance range for $10 somewhere to double check what got shipped.
When building a kit, I check all the C's and R's before soldering them in place.
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(I have not tried either one, but do have a cheap $10 DVM with capacitance range that is accurate to about 20pf)
When measuring small value caps, be sure to subtract the reading you get with? just the leads hanging out there.

Jerry


On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 09:21 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:

wow, you got a great deal!!!? Be sure to specify the capacitance in your order!!!? ?You should have enough to go into business for yourself selling those chips!!!

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Re: Crystal Filter Input and Output Impedance Measurements

Gordon Gibby
 

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Huge help!!!!!!! ? Thanks!!

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2017, at 09:59, Kerr Smith <kerrsmithusa@...> wrote:

Hi Gordon,

I bought quite a few (20) of the 10MHz crystals from Tayda, currently they are 10c each (perfect for experimenting with):



I spent quite a while going through them using a couple of different methods to sort them:

The first was using Ashhar Farhan's method as shown below:



specifically page 66:



The other method was the one from the following site:



specifically the 'Crystal parameters calculator' page:



I used these for my first Bitx20 and it works really well, I have listened (I just built the receive sections) to people from many different countries on it. When I built this receiver I did not have a spectrum analyser so I used an oscilloscope and RF generator to set up my circuits. Now I have a spectrum analyser I can look at my circuit blocks in great detail which is really interesting - I really like seeing how they all work and I can also tweak them until I am happy they are tuned exactly how I need them.

My other reason for creating this receiver (other than learning how to design each section from scratch) is learning how to use my new spectrum analyser to look at and adjust the individual circuit blocks (RF amplifiers, filters, mixers etc) - this is very interesting and I am really enjoying learning how it works.

I hope this helps,

Kerr


Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG

 

Very nice Max.
Might I suggest adding a provision for a panel mount USB extension like this one...



I can fumble around in Inkscape but I am far from proficient at it.



Re: Crystal Filter Input and Output Impedance Measurements

 

Hi Gordon,

I bought quite a few (20) of the 10MHz crystals from Tayda, currently they are 10c each (perfect for experimenting with):



I spent quite a while going through them using a couple of different methods to sort them:

The first was using Ashhar Farhan's method as shown below:



specifically page 66:



The other method was the one from the following site:



specifically the 'Crystal parameters calculator' page:



I used these for my first Bitx20 and it works really well, I have listened (I just built the receive sections) to people from many different countries on it. When I built this receiver I did not have a spectrum analyser so I used an oscilloscope and RF generator to set up my circuits. Now I have a spectrum analyser I can look at my circuit blocks in great detail which is really interesting - I really like seeing how they all work and I can also tweak them until I am happy they are tuned exactly how I need them.

My other reason for creating this receiver (other than learning how to design each section from scratch) is learning how to use my new spectrum analyser to look at and adjust the individual circuit blocks (RF amplifiers, filters, mixers etc) - this is very interesting and I am really enjoying learning how it works.

I hope this helps,

Kerr


Re: ALE, WINLINK and uBitX

Gordon Gibby
 

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?I think you'll get about double the power when you double the voltage.? ?Not certain, but I think the transconductance of the device is possibly constant and so changing the voltage linearly increases the power.??


The power will still drop off at higher frequencies.


Remember the two heatsinks of the uBit are both at the same DC potential but NOT at the same AC potential


gordon



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] ALE, WINLINK and uBitX
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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 06:36 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
ext move will be to go up to 19 or 24 vdc on the PA.
What is the expected wattage out when you do that?

I'm beginning to suspect it'll be far more robust as a winlink device than PC ALE, but at least we now know it CAN do that.


Re: ALE, WINLINK and uBitX

 

On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 06:36 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
ext move will be to go up to 19 or 24 vdc on the PA.
What is the expected wattage out when you do that?

I'm beginning to suspect it'll be far more robust as a winlink device than PC ALE, but at least we now know it CAN do that.


Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG

K4OSS
 

Yep, I would seriously consider purchasing one...

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On Sun, Dec 31, 2017, at 09:40, tausciam@... wrote:
You might think of selling those for people who don't have access to a
laser cutter. You could make a few extra bucks and make people happy at
the same time

NO2Y


Re: Tuner? Well Sure!

Rod Self
 

Hi All,

some time ago I built a single-ended version of Farhan's tuner shown here:



It is a basic L network with binary-weighted C and L values, switchable to either Hi or Low Z.

My operational impressions:

1. It is amazingly simple to tune up to an unknown load, and

2. even when the impedance mismatch is severe, switching in another tap of L or C shows easily-readable improvement in reflected voltage, which

3. gives a useful clue as to what to switch next, and

4. it is probably not necessary to use reflected voltage and phase readings- reflected voltage is probably sufficient, and

5. it would be simple to relay drive it and use a Nano to tune it.

So, I decided that when I got around-to-it, I would? automate it with a Nano. It just has not happened yet.

Just some operational feedback.

Regards,

Rod KM6SN


Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG

 

You might think of selling those for people who don't have access to a laser cutter. You could make a few extra bucks and make people happy at the same time

NO2Y