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Re: BitX40: Strange CW Sidetone Behaviour - level increases after a second or two
I think Allard's solution is likely minimal and acceptable. ?For not so minimal, here's somebody who has added sidetone injection at the volume control:
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??/g/BITX20/message/27410 and also solved the rx kerchunk. A few notes here on exactly what the devil that diagram might be trying to say: ?/g/BITX20/message/28942 If all you want is sidetone injection, should be possible with 1 or 2 resistors out by the volume control. Jerry On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 04:40 pm, Allard PE1NWL wrote: If you find a minimal mod that gives a better sidetone please share it and I will update the modification instructions - thanks! |
Re: USB Panel Mount Extension Cable
I had looked at that one, but the fit wasn't quite right, delivery time
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didn't meet my need for instant gratification, etc... :-) I've had my cable installed since April and have been pretty happy with it though I do have an extra hole to plug one of these days. On 6/29/2017 4:27 PM, Andrew Krause wrote:
50cm USB 2.0 B female panel mount to mini 5pin male right angle extension cable |
Re: Si5351A: facts and myths
That might be a good argument to use the R output divider after the output multisynth. ?Would be interesting to see if a divide by two in R generates less of a second harmonic on the Bitx40, just a matter of changing the raduino sketch. ?My guess is that it won't matter much. ?Given how low the Si5351 jitter is in fractional mode, they probably do a pretty good job on duty cycle as well. ?I'd bet non-linearities around the IRF510 would swamp any such effect. ?Though when it comes to the uBitx push-pull PA I'm not planning to bet a lot.
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Jerry, KE7ER On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 03:38 pm, Axel DK4AQ wrote: A good idea is to use a toggle flipflop at the output signal, dividing the output frequeny by 2. |
Re: BitX40: Strange CW Sidetone Behaviour - level increases after a second or two
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 02:29 pm, Michael Babineau wrote:
I did notice that working backwards in the schematic ?from the speaker, there a good sized electrolytic cap (C111 470 uF) and I am wondering if the diminished sidetone on initial key-down is a result of that cap charging up. If that is the case then others who are using this mod should be experiencing the same behaviour.?Hi Michael, Yes, you're right, it's not a 100% perfect method, the diminished sidetone on initial key-down is a result of that cap charging up - I have exactly the same behaviour here. I am contemplating injecting the sidetone at the volume control (before the LM386) to see if this works any betterIf you find a minimal mod that gives a better sidetone please share it and I will update the modification instructions - thanks! 73 Allard PE1NWL |
Re: USB Panel Mount Extension Cable
50cm USB 2.0 B female panel mount to mini 5pin male right angle extension cable? On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:07 PM John Sutter <jds@...> wrote: I didn't notice anyone mention these, but I do tend to miss things... -- |
Re: Getting raduino crystal frequency with frequency counter
Yep. That'll work.
This probably will not work to measure the Si5351 crystal. You will get a signal, but it probably will not be correct. Measure at pin2 or pin3 of U2, but I would not recommend it as there is too much of a chance for a short circuit. You will have to calibrate the unit by specifying an output frequency and seeing what the effect of the 25 MHz is, i.e., how different is it from assuming exactly 25.000 MHz. Several of the raduino versions have this calibration in the firmware. In most cases the adjustment is +/- 200 Hz or so. Your can measure the frequency of the Nano oscillator at the input pin. Connect temporarily with a small capacitor (100 pf or so). You can measure the BFO frequency by connecting the same way at the collector of Q10 or, better yet, at the emitter of Q11. And you can easily measure the output of the raduino, of course. Assuming you have not disabled the BFO. I have one of these units and it is quite sensitive and accurate for most applications...but it is big. Watch out for noise. Also I believe the color code on the +/- connection is reversed. Check to see if Red is ground and Black is positive. It might be. john AD5YE |
USB Panel Mount Extension Cable
I didn't notice anyone mention these, but I do tend to miss things...
Short adapter cables are available from Adafruit and Amazon that allow you to update the firmware/sketch without opening the case. I was hoping to find & use a right angle connector, but this one worked for me though I had to move the 10-turn pot. - John |
Re: Si5351A: facts and myths
Hi all, ? I developed an own VFO basing on Si5351 and Arduino in 2015. I had the same question: Is the Quality of the oscillator signal good enough for a high quality SW receiver ? ? Searching for information I found a blog of NT7S ?Ripples in the Ether¡° . Search under ?Si5351¡° and look at ?Si5351A Investigations Part 7¡°. He organized measurement of the phase noise of the Si5351 in different configurations. The measurement was done with professional equipment by KE5FX. He compared the results with data from , containing phase noise of LO of well known HAM equipment. ? After omparing the values, I felt I should not have any headache about the signal quality of the Si5351 ! Thanks to NT7S and KE5FX for their helpful informations ! ? Only one little problem with Si5351 stayed. Using switched mixers it makes sense to use a rectangular oscillator signal. Looking to the spectrum of rectangular signals, you will find all harmonic frequencies (fo, 2fo,3fo...). That means if you have a receiver mixer you will receive signals from all these frequencies +/- IF. In case of transmitter mixer you will send on all these frequencies at the same time ! Ususal RF filters have to reject them. If we chose an exactly symetric rectangle (50% duty cycle) then all even harmonics have zero amplitude. So at least the nearest harmonic frequency 2fo is rejected and the filters have to be less complex. Speaking about birdies it is also useful to avoid some harmonics. ? So enjoy working with Si5351 and BITX40 ! ? Axel / DK4AQ |
Re: Si5351A: facts and myths
Hans,
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I took the code from??/g/BITX20/files/KE7ER/si5351bx_0_0.ino and replaced the final while loop with this: // Slews CLK2 from 6999950 to 7000050 hz and back // advancing in 1 hz increments once every 5 milliseconds. // So takes 1 second for each round trip. // When going up through 7.0mhz we have a transition in // the output msynth from a=126 to a=125, since 875/7.0 = 125.0 // Would expect to hear a tick there since those 8 msynth registers // are not all updated simultaneously while (1) { for (n=0; n<100; n++) { si5351bx_setfreq(2, 6999950+n); delay(5); // 5ms } for (n=0; n<100; n++) { si5351bx_setfreq(2, 7000050-n); delay(5); // 5ms } }Note that the delay() function call is susceptible to exactly when 1 ms interrupts occur and to just how long it takes to execute my code. ?So likely sometimes an extra ms in there. Listening in with a nearby Bitx40 I hear no hint of a tick. ?Just a cleanly varying tone. Time to celebrate. Jerry, KE7ER On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 01:34 am, Hans Summers wrote:
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Re: Raduino purchase
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSend by PayPal $25 to hfsignals@...Not that it is for Arduino. On 6/29/2017 2:01 PM, Lorne Barber
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Re: Raduino purchase (decoupling Si5351 from +3.3v)
Pavel Milanes Costa
El 29/06/17 a las 16:55, Michael Hagen escribi¨®:
Then the SI Generator, has extra bypassing and .1uf coupling caps. I put 1 ohm from 3.3 volts to SI power pin, then bypassed with 10uF, not just 1uf.I like that Idea. I have noticed on another project some for of slight AM modulation on carriers and was suspecting of 3.3v power fluctuations (taken from the arduino 3.3v tap) Then Hans Summers in a post mentioned the fact that the Si5351 is prone to be modulated by power supply and pointed to an article comparing the output from a battery pack and from a Wall-wart transformer: That was enlightening. Hum... Just thinking now... maybe the buzz noise when the PWM kick in for the AGC mod is just a effect of the 3.3v modulation in my bitx40 sketch... interesting... I have a fact/myth to prove this weekend... that's fun to come. 73 de Pavel CO7WT. |
BitX40: Strange CW Sidetone Behaviour - level increases after a second or two
I finally got all of the CW mods made to my BitX40 and it seems to be working fine using Allard's V1.16 code. ?However, I have noticed some strange behaviour?from the CW sidetone implemented using the recommended hardware mod :
What I have noticed is that when I key the rig I hear the sidetone, but after a second or two the volume of sidetone increases quite a bit (maybe double). This doesn't seem to be the case when I use SPOT (i.e. the level stays consistent with SPOT). I am just wondering if others experience the same thing or whether this is just my rig ? I do have a small RC filter in place of the 1K resistor, that consists of? two 1.5K resistors in series, with a couple of ?0.1 uF caps to ground, the idea is to clean-up the square wave sidetone so that it sounds a little cleaner. These are pretty low value caps so I can't see that they would have any impact on the sidetone volume. I did notice that working backwards in the schematic ?from the speaker, there a good sized electrolytic cap (C111 470 uF) and I am wondering if the diminished sidetone on initial key-down is a result of that cap charging up. If that is the case then others who are using this mod should be experiencing the same behaviour.? I am contemplating injecting the sidetone at the volume control (before the LM386) to see if this works any better, but for now I was hoping to figure out whether others are seeing the same thing.? Cheers Michael VE3WMB? |
Re: bitx40/Raduino sketch version 1.3, now full documented.
Pavel Milanes Costa
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Art. The limits on the calibration was set to -8000 to + 8000 for my
empiric values so you are getting (+) 8000 and that's top value.
(My hardware needs +3670) Try to move the dial control all way down to the left, as the
code uses a function that limit the value and I noted now that can
(must) be improved to show the real value on loading... as you
move near the left edge the value must move down and will allow
you to set the proper one. That calibration routine has a incremental steps when in edges of the range, and I noted a bug now looking at the code in which the dial pot is not updated to the real value of the calibration when entering the procedure, I must fix that. I will fix and check it as I'm at work and don't have the hardware at reach now. 73 and thanks for the tip/bug identification. 73 de Pavel CO7WT. El 29/06/17 a las 16:57, Art Olson
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Re: bitx40/Raduino sketch version 1.3, now full documented.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPavel I use the function button under settings, calibrate lsb and it reads -8000 ppl. All good? ?Can't change it. Not that I need to as it is on freq. sorry for my confusion? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Art Olson <olson339@...> wrote:
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Re: Raduino purchase
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHere is a description: All parts except a couple caps 0603 SMD. All parts Available from Mouser, usually in stock. I2C connector top Left, 4 Pins +5, Ground, D, Clk and bypass cap. Power and VFO connector below, my original 5 pin cable fit it when I swapped it out. All connectors same type, pull and move wires, just like original 7805 Regulator Bolted down, 100uF in and out plus SMD. Level Shifting MOSFETs. Nano Big Guy in the Middle. Rotary Connector with Pullups and Caps if you want. 2 I/O connectors follow a lot of original. LCD Connector with Contrast and Optional Resistor to Lower
Backlight current Then the SI Generator, has extra bypassing and .1uf coupling
caps.? I put 1 ohm from 3.3 volts to SI power pin, then bypassed
with 10uF, not just 1uf. Up graded Cryatal is about 6mm square (Mouser). Green Led on Power ? |
Re: bitx40/Raduino sketch version 1.3, now full documented.
Pavel Milanes Costa
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýEl 29/06/17 a las 16:36, Pavel Milanes
Costa escribi¨®:
Now I realize your question in deep... sorry. I removed the old (legacy) way of calibrating by shorting A2 (CAL_BUTTON) when powering on the radio in favor of the new via the FBUTTON while the radio is running. Just that, it break old compatibility with former Raduino docs, but as far as I knows almost all people use Allard's code and knows the FBUTTON way. 73 |
Re: bitx40/Raduino sketch version 1.3, now full documented.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPavel Ok got it. I am using your code and library (mcu). The freq is spot on and when I look at the value of the lsb setting it reads -8000 ppm.? Thanks? Art Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2017, at 4:36 PM, Pavel Milanes Costa <pavelmc@...> wrote:
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