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Gordon Gibby
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý?wow, you got a great deal!!!? Be sure to specify the capacitance in your order!!!? ?You should have enough to go into business for yourself selling those chips!!!
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN <kb3mun@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
On 12/31/2017 00:12, Gordon Gibby wrote:
I went with . Thanks for the links. 73 de Daniel KB3MUN |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 12/31/2017 00:12, Gordon Gibby
wrote:
I went with . Thanks for the links. 73 de Daniel KB3MUN |
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Gordon Gibby
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAnother source:
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CD15FD471JO3 - 470 pF??5%??500WVDC - $2.75 each
I used some like these to do a cheapie way of getting my Bitx40 onto 80 meters....along with an 80 meter LPF on the output of the transmitter.......
worked well.
gordon
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
surface mount (but not sure of the size):? ? Digikey:? ??
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
Amazon:? ?
DigiKey:???
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN <kb3mun@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
Thanks for the info.
My typo, I used a pair of .22 pF for .44pF (closes I could get).? Your right is doesn't work too well, although I could hear a a QSO around 7.3 MHz. Thanks again, Daniel KB3MUN On 12/30/2017 23:26, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote: 470pf? in an NPO or C0G or silver mica would be ideal. |
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Gordon Gibby
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 12:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
Amazon:? ?
DigiKey:???
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN <kb3mun@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
Thanks for the info.
My typo, I used a pair of .22 pF for .44pF (closes I could get).? Your right is doesn't work too well, although I could hear a a QSO around 7.3 MHz. Thanks again, Daniel KB3MUN On 12/30/2017 23:26, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote: 470pf? in an NPO or C0G or silver mica would be ideal. |
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Gahhh,? ?3 orders of magnitude.
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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 09:12 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote: Still two orders of magnitude off. |
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Gordon Gibby
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN <kb3mun@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 11:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] #bitx40 #parts need spec's on BITX40 capacitor C7 ?
Thanks for the info.
My typo, I used a pair of .22 pF for .44pF (closes I could get).? Your right is doesn't work too well, although I could hear a a QSO around 7.3 MHz. Thanks again, Daniel KB3MUN On 12/30/2017 23:26, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote: 470pf? in an NPO or C0G or silver mica would be ideal. |
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Still two orders of magnitude off.
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I assume you used two 0.22nF caps.? (nano-Farads isn't used quite so much as pico-Farads and micro-Farads in amateur circles) 220pF = 0.220nF = 0.000220uF = 0.000000000220 Farads. On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 08:56 pm, D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN wrote:
My typo, I used a pair of .22 pF for .44pF (closes I could get).? |
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Re: what else should I order from there?
#parts
I use their I2C LCD backpack boards and their SI5351 board (which can be fed either 5V or 3.3V).? They have kits of machined header pins and sockets, and rotary encoders, as well.?
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And the little red boxes are perfect for storing parts and/or project sub-assemblies. ;) On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 07:30 am, Doug W wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks for the info.
My typo, I used a pair of .22 pF for .44pF (closes I could get).? Your right is doesn't work too well, although I could hear a a QSO around 7.3 MHz. Thanks again, Daniel KB3MUN On 12/30/2017 23:26, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote: 470pf? in an NPO or C0G or silver mica would be ideal. |
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Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG
Is that Lucite?? and how thick?? 1/8 inch? thanks, Paul K0ZYV From: Max Lock <max@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:33 PM Subject: [BITX20] Laser cut ubitx case SVG Hi All, If any of you have access to a laser cutter, or are really handy with a fret saw, you may find this useful. -Cheers Max, G7UOZ. |
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470pf? in an NPO or C0G or silver mica would be ideal.
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Voltages there are quite low, less than 5v, so most any voltage rating. > I've temporarily repaired with a pair of .22uF in parallel. That would give you 0.44uF, which is 440000pF.? Not good, I'd be surprised if it worked at all. On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 08:07 pm, D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN wrote: I need part specification for BITX40 capacitor C7. I know it is a 470 pF. Is it an NPO? what voltage rating? |
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓý2 x 0.22uF in
parallel gives 0.44uF. Much, much, much? bigger value than
470pF. On 31/12/2017 3:07 PM, D. Daniel
McGlothin KB3MUN wrote:
I need part specification for BITX40 capacitor C7. I know it is a 470 pF. Is it an NPO? what voltage rating? This week past, I put together my BITX40. Observing very weak audio signal, I was following the receiver diagnostics video ( ) and found unexpected behavior when probing the band pass filter. I also found that I have a bad audio jack linking the headphone jack and the speaker (probably a overheating problem). Anyway, I was re-soldering the BPF inductors (L1..L3). While there, I decided to resolder the capacitors (C1..C7) as well. C7 came off when soldering one end (the other end "broke" off, and the chip came off on the iron). I've temporarily repaired with a pair of .22uF in parallel. Thanks, Daniel KB3MUN |
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I need part specification for BITX40 capacitor C7. I know it is a 470 pF. Is it an NPO? what voltage rating?
This week past, I put together my BITX40. Observing very weak audio signal, I was following the receiver diagnostics video ( ) and found unexpected behavior when probing the band pass filter. I also found that I have a bad audio jack linking the headphone jack and the speaker (probably a overheating problem). Anyway, I was re-soldering the BPF inductors (L1..L3). While there, I decided to resolder the capacitors (C1..C7) as well. C7 came off when soldering one end (the other end "broke" off, and the chip came off on the iron). I've temporarily repaired with a pair of .22uF in parallel. Thanks, Daniel KB3MUN |
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Re: Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy!
Gene Nitschke
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi John, Used tone on?7.023?into a dummy load only because I had a Pixie2 at that freq that I could listen for my output. Voice I tried several frequencies.? The issue did not vary much with freq.? Issue is likely my cheap watt meter (and my reliance on it when setting up BitX) but I am trying to verify this with circuit that Jack described and Jerry's help in understanding it. Gene From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of John McFadden <johnamcf@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy! ?
Gene, What frequency did you test on, and did you try other frequencies? It turns out my Bitx40 shows different output levels depending on the frequency across the 40m band, maybe your board has the same issue.
I emailed out graphs of my board's output under the heading "Power output decreases as a function of frequency? #bitx40" with one today.
John On 12/30/2017 9:21 PM, Gene Nitschke wrote:
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Re: Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy!
Gene Nitschke
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJerry, Great, thanks,?will give it a try.? Sounds simple and will be a?good way to check my cheap CB watt?meter. Gene N2IJF From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 9:46 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy! ?
Yes, you can use it without the Nano.
Assume the transmitter is driving the 50 ohm dummy load with a 20 volt peak to peak sine wave. Since the other end of the 50 ohm dummy load is grounded, the 20 volts peak to peak is centered on ground, so -10 volts and +10 volts at the peaks of the sine wave. The meter will measure around 10 volts. When computing power for a sine wave like this, we use the rms voltage, in this case it is 10 volts * 0.707 = 7.07 volts rms. Now we can use your formula:? ? power = V^2/R = 7.07vrms^2/50ohms = 50/50 = 1 Watt. In general, measure the dc voltage across the cap, multiply by 0.707, then use that as the voltage in your V^2/R formula. You will get slightly more exact results if you add 0.6 volts to the meter reading to account for the drop across the diode. So in the example above where the meter read 10vdc across the cap,? we would use (10v+0.6v)*0.707 = 7.49vrms You do want something like Jacks 58k ohms of resistance across the cap, value is not critical. Higher resistance makes the peak voltage stick around longer for you to read with a meter. Diode is not critical, a 1n4148 or 1n914 should be fine at moderate power levels. Maximum reverse voltage for these is 100 volts, so should be good up to a peak-to-peak max of 100 volts, so a peak to ground of 50 volts (as seen on the meter), or 50*0.707=35.35vrms, or 25 Watts.? Jerry, KE7ER ? On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 06:22 pm, Gene Nitschke wrote: Can I just use the circuit w/o the nano,?I assume the resistor divider is for sampling by the nano???If?I connect the rig across the 50 ohm load and measure the voltage across the capacitor, what is the relationship of voltage to power (is it simply V^2/R)? |
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Re: Laser cut ubitx case SVG
Nice design. Perhaps we can manage spot welding 4 nuts behind the lcd and thus prevent the 4 mounting holes. Kindly think of such possibility. ?best of NEW Year 2018 regards Sarma ? |
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Re: How to find the missing "Low pass filter at 30 MHz" article by W7ZOI
#ubitx
Jerry and? Andy the filter implemented by Andy looks performing nice.? Can als o try similar with the design of Eamon Skelton EI9GQ please.HEREIS THE LINK ?Regards ?sarma vu3zmv regards Sarma ? On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:13 AM, AndyH <ahecker@...> wrote: I don't know what specific parts W7ZOI used.? There's very little power flowing through this filter, though, so it should be easy duty for the components. |
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Re: Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy!
John McFadden
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGene, What frequency did you test on, and did you try other frequencies? It turns out my Bitx40 shows different output levels depending on
the frequency across the 40m band, maybe your board has the same
issue.
I emailed out graphs of my board's output under the heading
"Power output decreases as a function of frequency? #bitx40" with
one today.
John On 12/30/2017 9:21 PM, Gene Nitschke
wrote:
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Re: Very low power output (BitX40), everything appears to be working but setup driving me crazy!
Yes, you can use it without the Nano.
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Assume the transmitter is driving the 50 ohm dummy load with a 20 volt peak to peak sine wave. Since the other end of the 50 ohm dummy load is grounded, the 20 volts peak to peak is centered on ground, so -10 volts and +10 volts at the peaks of the sine wave. The meter will measure around 10 volts. When computing power for a sine wave like this, we use the rms voltage, in this case it is 10 volts * 0.707 = 7.07 volts rms. Now we can use your formula:? ? power = V^2/R = 7.07vrms^2/50ohms = 50/50 = 1 Watt. In general, measure the dc voltage across the cap, multiply by 0.707, then use that as the voltage in your V^2/R formula. You will get slightly more exact results if you add 0.6 volts to the meter reading to account for the drop across the diode. So in the example above where the meter read 10vdc across the cap,? we would use (10v+0.6v)*0.707 = 7.49vrms You do want something like Jacks 58k ohms of resistance across the cap, value is not critical. Higher resistance makes the peak voltage stick around longer for you to read with a meter. Diode is not critical, a 1n4148 or 1n914 should be fine at moderate power levels. Maximum reverse voltage for these is 100 volts, so should be good up to a peak-to-peak max of 100 volts, so a peak to ground of 50 volts (as seen on the meter), or 50*0.707=35.35vrms, or 25 Watts.? Jerry, KE7ER ? On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 06:22 pm, Gene Nitschke wrote:
Can I just use the circuit w/o the nano,?I assume the resistor divider is for sampling by the nano???If?I connect the rig across the 50 ohm load and measure the voltage across the capacitor, what is the relationship of voltage to power (is it simply V^2/R)? |