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Re: Re. problem with crystal oscillators
Hans Summers
Arv
Listed below are a few of the more obviousAll good points. This BITX20 reflector has been very interesting so far, and will continue to get even more interesting as the number of completed projects increases and people start working on modifications. Hans, is it possible ( or even advisable ) to build aI think, both possible AND advisable. I am not an expert with Yahoo groups so I don't know the exact procedure, nor do I know if the group is configured so that it has to be done by me or it can be done by any member. I don't have internet access at home over the weekend so will wait until Monday to check. Meanwhile If you know how to do it, go ahead! 73 to all Hans G0UPL |
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Re: Re. problem with crystal oscillators
Mike W
I'm wondering, in a quiet, museing, sort of way, whether its a
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reasonable prospect to use the IF strip as a driver to VHF using a transverter in place of the PA and RX BPF. I have suitable transverters to try it with but first I have to build the BITX. A good idea, if its possible, to add a MODS section. I guess that no one is going to build their second BITX without adding personality to the build. atb Mike W -- On 17 Jul 04, at 11:31, Arv Evans wrote:
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Re: Re. problem with crystal oscillators
Arv Evans
开云体育Chris, & others...Please take a closer look at the BITX IF string without any crystal filter.? There would be no control of the passband and thus no way to tune a specific frequency, other than as a very broadband DC RX with a converter ahead of it.? There would also be little rejection of image frequencies.? The crystal filter is the only frequency determining part of the IF amplifier string, so at least some minimal bandwidth control is probably necessary.? I have to admit that my first working receive-only mock-up of the BITX20 did use a pair of 10.7 IF transformers that were peaked at 10.0 MHZ in place of the crystal filter.? It sort of worked (very, very broad tuning and prone to oscillation) so I purchased the necessary 10 MHz crystals and rebuilt it per Farhan's instructions. Use of a single-crystal IF filter is interesting for QRP activists who may not need SSB.? The IF filter loss would be significantly less than the 10 to 12 db of the ladder filter, and with a variable capacitor (maybe a varicap) it should be possible to adjust the bandwidth to some extent.? Farhan & myself have discussed using the BITX for other modes, including CW by using a computer sound card or by making the microphone amplifier into a keyed oscillator (probably easier than unbalancing the modulator to get a keyed carrier). The most intriguing part of the BITX design philosophy is that it is relatively easy and inexpensive? to duplicate Farhan's design, and then to customize it for whatever special features you might want to try. Farhan uses his BITX on CW and PSK-31 as well as SSB, so we know it is capable of those modes.? Listed below are a few of the more obvious modifications for the basic design: (1)? Consider the possibility of adding VOX by using a small relay for the T/R changeover and driving that relay with an amplified and rectified portion of the microphone audio.? Anti-vox could be incorporated by integrating a small portion of the RX audio (in proper phase) with the VOX audio amplification.? For CW the same VOX circuitry could automate RX - TX changeover. ? (2)? If you use computer driven modes of operation, you should probably include a connector for your computer on the back of your BITX-xx.? This connector might include the coupling attenuators that are necessary to bring the sound card output down to the correct level to match your microphone amplifier input, as well as tapping the RX audio ahead of the volume control so that adjusting speaker volume would not disturb your computer RX signal level. ? (3)? Adding a simple FWD & REF power meter or SWR meter seems obvious and rather easy to do.? The same meter could also be used as an audio-derived S-Meter with a one-transistor amplifier and a couple of diodes. ? (4)? Depending on the type and impedance of your antenna, it might be possible to include the antenna tuner inside the BITX enclosure for a nearly self-contained station. ? (5)? There are many options for the VFO, even building two VFOs for offset frequency operation.? For my BITX40 I built a PTO instead of using the two-capacitor design of the BITX20.? If one has built a DDS (Direct Digital Synthesis) unit, then that could become the VFO for your BITX. ? (6)? At least one BITX20 builder has shown pictures of his unit that incorporates an LCD frequency display, and another has shown his BITX with either 7-segment LED and /or binary frequency displays.? ? (7)? While Farhan's original design does incorporate a linear amplifier section, it is possible to substitute any of several good linear amplifier circuits ( even a tube-type linear if you have one lying around ! ).? I expect to soon hear of BITX designs that run much more power using combinations of parallel and push-pull IRF510 finals. This amazing potential for altering and/or augmenting the basic unit is part of the magic associated with Farhan's original design.? Maybe we should start a "BITX MODIFICATIONS" sub-section as part of the forum...?? Hans, is it possible ( or even advisable ) to build a MODIFICATIONS sub-directory in the FILES section of BITX20@... that would support multiple users adding their circuits to that area? 73's Arv - K7HKL _._ On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 05:03, vdberghak wrote: Hi,why the intention to add one x-tal as a filter if you want to |
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Re: CRYSTAL MEASUREMENTS
MILAREPA
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The problem of my crystal measurements has solved :-). Thank you for your advice :-). I try change the transistors from BC547B to 2N3904. (maybe I got 2nd grade quality of BC547B) Then vfo works with crystals : 3.5 ~ 14 MHz, and frequency could also displayed at my pc monitor counter. Yours, Milarepa ----- Original Message -----
From: Arv Evans <arvevans@...> To: <BITX20@...> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] CRYSTAL MEASUREMENTS (2) If the transistor you are using for the Crystal oscillator is notI hope this helps.
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Re: Re. problem with crystal oscillators
Hi,why the intention to add one x-tal as a filter if you want to
generate DSB? Just remove the current IF filter from the design and you have already DSB! By doing this, you can also investigate (for example during receiving) the impact of the IF filter. If the received signal looks good without filter and is horrible with the filter, someting is wrong with the shape or position of the passband. Good lock, Chris. Wouldas the IF filter in the BITX-xx design and simply center the carrierin the IF passband. This would result in DSB (Double Sideband) insteadof SSB (Single Sideband) transmission, but it might work to get a systemon the air. One possible problem with this is that single-crystal IFfilters tend to be very narrow banded, in the order of 200 HZ, and have asteep roll off on one sideband only. I am not sure what thischaracteristic would do to the audio quality of a DSB signal. I guess thatsomeone has to try it for us to know for sure...? |
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About BITX PCB
Roberto Suárez
开云体育Hello from EB1CPC / EC1ACV , in Spain.
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I try to build the BITX20. I have the PCB
but?I have many doubts about the location of
many components in the PCB.?
Can anybody help me?. Anybody send me the
distribution of the components or any photo
of the transceiver? My Email: eb1cpc@...
I?m very interesting in homebrew rigs. It?s a new
experience for me.
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Thank you very much. 73?s
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Cap Meter and Freq Counter projects
Mike W
HI Folks, I've just found this url in a newsgroup that may be of
interest to someone out there :-) Using AVR's in both projects, with free development software, free samples from Amtel and a simple programming interface this looks, to me, like an interesting prospect. all the best, Mike W, G8NXD |
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IF filter passband measured
Heinz Schnait
Hello,
I have just uploaded a file with the results of my measurements of the IF filters passband. The set-up was a DDS-VFO as a signal source and a HF millivoltmeter as a detector. I have measured the IF Filter including one amplifier on each side. That are transistors Q11 and Q12 und Ashhar circuit diagramm. A previous measurement of just the filter terminated with 56Ohm resistors on each side gave a far worse result (less bandwith, >3dB of bumpiness in the passband), which I think comes from wrong termination of the filter. I did not know, how to terminate it correctly, thus I used the amplifiers of the circuit. I am impressed with the shape I have obtained, but the passband seems a little wide. Building continues towards the audio end of the BITX. I will then repeat measurements with feeding audio in the mic and measuring response in the IF. 73 Heinz, OE5EEP |
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Re. problem with crystal oscillators
Arv Evans
开云体育MILAREPA@.............It would appear from your chart that the higher frequency crystals may not be oscillating, or that your frequency counter may not be capable of counting above 10 MHz. Lets explore the first possibility (that the higher frequency crystals may not be oscillating): ? (1)? Check the RF output of your crystal oscillator using a simple diode & capacitor RF detector and a high impedance DC volt meter.? If there is RF present it should be in the range of 4 to 12 volts. ? (2)? If the transistor you are using for the Crystal oscillator is not capable of operating at 10 MHz or above, it may be not oscillating with the higher frequency crystals.? The solution for this is to use a better transistor.? In the US we have 2N2222 and 2N3904 available for very reasonable prices so this is what I use for most of my HF work.? These devices are rated to 150 MHZ, and will usually oscillate at even higher frequencies. ? (3)? In your crystal oscillator circuit it is possible that one or more of the capacitors you are using is not the capacitance value that you think it is.? Check each capacitor on a capacitor tester to determine its actual measured capacitance.? Then verify on the schematic and parts list that you are using the correct value for the design.? If you do not have a capacitance meter, you can use the simple AC transformer and Digital VoltMeter (DVM) method outlined in one of my earlier emails to the forum.? A schematic and picture of this is also available in the PHOTOS section of the forum archives (look under my call sign, " K7HKL " ) ? (4)? The DC bias may not be correct in your crystal oscillator circuit.? Check the voltages on the oscillator transistor using a high impedance voltmeter.? The difference between base and emitter voltages should be approximately 0.7 volts for silicon transistors (it will be about 0.3 volt for germanium transistors, but I have not seen one of those antiques for several years).? The collector voltage should be about 1/2 the supply voltage.? If your oscillator design has an emitter resistor you can measure the voltage drop across that device and with a little math determine the collector current of your oscillator transistor. ? (5) It is possible that one or more of the resistors in your crystal oscillator circuit may not be close enough to the design value.? A quick ohm meter check on each resistor should detect this situation.? The resistor values are not particularly critical, but they should be within 10 to 20 percent of those indicated in Farhan's design.? Now, the "possibilities" for your counter being the problem: ? (1)? Many years ago I built a number of frequency counters using 7490 dividers and 7447 LED drivers.? One of the major problems experienced with those circuits was a lack of HF sensitivity in the input amplifier and count gating circuit.? Designing a frequency counter to have a very high input impedance and flat frequency response over a wide bandwidth is nearly impossible.? I finally resorted to engineering for a lower input impedance and using a very broadband input amplifier to drive my 7400 count gating circuit.? ? (2)? One mistake that is prevalent is to use a low impedance coaxial lead as the input to your frequency counter but configure the counter for high impedance input.? Obviously this is a contradiction in impedances.? If you are doing this you can try "terminating either end of your counter input coax with a low impedance (non-inductive) resistor.? Start with about 470 ohms and work up or down from there.? An alternative might be to use a very small capacitor (about 10 pf) in series between the counter input cable and the circuit under test.? This lets the counter see a higher impedance, and does not disturb the circuit-under-test as much by loading it with whatever input cable impedance you are using on your counter. ? (2)? If you have a signal generator that will go higher than 10 or 12 MHz you could verify that your counter is capable of reliably counting to those higher frequencies.? At the same time you might want to "calibrate" the sensitivity of your counter so that you will know how much RF voltage it takes at 5, 10, & 20 MHz to result in a reliable count of that frequency.? Do this by using a carbon potentiometer to attenuate the input to your counter and use your diode detector and high impedance voltmeter to measure the RF voltage level at which counting becomes unreliable.? Be sure to use the same test leads on your counter for both sensitivity calibration and for measurements on your BITX20 circuits. Regarding the use of 3.579 MHz crystals as IF Filters: Using 3.579 MHz crystals as IF Filters is an interesting experiment.? The older and larger sized crystals that I have available exhibit much different characteristics than those of smaller 10 MHz crystals.? I was unable to obtain consistent motional parameters from my test setup when using 3.579 MHz units, but the 10 MHz crystals worked first time.? For an experiment I selected a pair of 3.579 crystals that were 1.4 KHz different in frequency and used these to build up a half-lattice filter.? The half-lattice design requires use of a toroid transformer, and here I did use a ferrite core for that purpose.? If you don't have a suitable ferrite core available you can try the Tap Washer cores that Farhan suggests, but at this time I have no data on what might be the proper number of turns.?? I found the half-lattice filter using 3.579 MHz crystals to be adequate for SSB work.? However, the use of a half-lattice filter does not readily adapt to the bi-directional design used in the BITX20, so this may not be a good solution. It is also possible to use a single 3.579 MHz crystal in series with the signal path as the IF filter in simple superhetrodyne receivers.? Again this becomes problematic if one tries to use this arrangement in a bi-directional design like the BITX20, because the terminating resistor is on the wrong end of the crystal in transmit mode.? I suppose one could do some sort of diode switching of either the whole crystal filter or just the terminating resistor, but that is rapidly getting beyond the simple nature of the original BITX design objective. Here is a thought that I have been playing with for several days...Would it be possible to use a single 10 MHz (or other frequency) crystal as the IF filter in the BITX-xx design and simply center the carrier in the IF passband.? This would result in DSB (Double Sideband) instead of SSB (Single Sideband) transmission, but it might work to get a system on the air.? One possible problem with this is that single-crystal IF filters tend to be very narrow banded, in the order of 200 HZ, and have a steep roll off on one sideband only.? I am not sure what this characteristic would do to the audio quality of a DSB signal.? I guess that someone has to try it for us to know for sure...? OK, I have probably covered much more than you wanted to know. I hope this helps. Arv - K7HKL _._? On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 04:30, MILAREPA wrote: Dear forum, |
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Re: CRYSTAL MEASUREMENTS
MILAREPA
开云体育Dear forum,
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==About Crystal Measurements==
At the time I mail to BITX about this subject, 'actually' I was using a 3.579545 MHz crystal, that available at my junkbox and drifting is in this frequency. ( not 12 MHz... ). ? After that email I buy some crystal, each 10.00 MHz, 12.00 MHz, 12.288 MHz, and 14.00 MHz. and make some test for each crystal, using my vfo and socket as?Hans's suggest, then connect / monitor at : shortwave rx, counter 8 leds, counter one-7segment, and rs232 - pc monitor ( this rs232 is part of one-7segment counter's add on ) here are the results: ? ?
The measurements stop at 10.00 MHz on 8 led cntr, since the 8 led accuracy is 10.xxx MHz, and I need to check them on rs232-pc but happened not displayed. ? Please suggest what is possible here. -Why for 10 MHz higher the circuit doesn't works normally ? I have read that for a higher frequency, the vfo gain could be drop. -Does vfo design limit is at 10 MHz ?
-How to fix this ? ?
Thanks. |
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Archive message settings
Hans Summers
开云体育?
Following a suggestion from Dave M1DGS I have enabled
the group message archives for reading by non-members. This means that visitors
to the group are now able to view all of our messages in the archive, but the
rest of the group functionality (e.g. files, photos, etc) remains members-only.
Hopefully it will allow visitors to see what we are all about and decide to
join, whereas prior to this they could only read the description on the front
page, not the messages. Yahoo hides the email addresses of non-members so there
should not be any issue of your email address becoming public knowledge to
spammers etc.
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But if anyone objects to this change, or knows of any
reason why it's not a good idea, let me know and I'll put it back to how it
was.
?
73 Hans G0UPL
http://www.HansSummers.com |
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Re: Binocular Cores
Arvid Evans
--- In BITX20@..., "Mike W" <mike@c...> wrote:
I have found a 'source' of minature binocular balun cores in old UHFMike Some time ago (actually, many years ago) I remember reading somewhere that you can make up your own "binocular cores" by stacking two rows of conventional toroid cores. That's about all I remember of the original technical note, so you are on your own from there. Arv _._ |
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Spam message
Hans Summers
Hi
Sadly it appears that a spammer has joined our group and sent a spam email which I received here at 1809 UTC. I have deleted the offending message from the messages archive, but those of you who have elected to receive individual emails will already have received it. I have removed the spammer from the group and modified the membership setting to "restricted". This means that from now on, new members must be approved by one of the group moderators (myself or Farhan) before they are permitted to join the group. I suggest that new applications be approved only if the email address appears to be genuine, for example if it contains a valid callsign or if a google search on the name identifies a real person - if there is any doubt I will reply to the applicant asking some question about why they want to apply and what their interest in the group is. I would imagine that this will deter spammers and if they do attempt a reply, will enable easy identification. I don't want to make it difficult to join the group, and didn't want to have to restrict the membership like this. But apparently it is necessary in order to maintain the quality of the group and protect the privacy of the membership. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. 73 de Hans G0UPL |
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Measuring Crystal & IF Filter Frequencies
Arv Evans
开云体育HiHans' comments (see below) are very appropriate to the measurement of Crystal frequencies.? I too found that if you solder the crystals in place, it may be necessary to wait several minutes for things to cool down to where frequencies are stable.? This applies to crystals in the 10 mhz filter as well as those in oscillator positions.? When soldering the crystals in place, it helps to use a heat sink on the leads between the solder joint and the crystal.? Just gripping the lead with a pair of pliers while soldering is usually adequate.? Wrap a rubber-band around the pliers handles to keep them on the lead if you need three hands to hold the pliers, hold the solder, and hold the soldering iron. If you build the AF section, the IF-to-AF mixer, and the BFO before you build the IF Filter it is possible to use these as part of your test equipment in alignment of the 10 mhz filter.? Build the VFO but temporarily replace the VFO resonant circuit with a spare 10 mhz crystal and a series variable capacitor.? Use this oscillator as the signal source to "test" your IF Filter.? When the "VFO Crystal" and the BFO are tuned you will find a zero-beat if they are both at the same frequency.? Tuning either of these oscillators off-frequency will result in an audio tone that represents the difference in frequency.? Using a simple diode detector and high impedance voltmeter you should be able to plot the bandpass characteristics of your IF Filter (turn the BFO "OFF" for these measurements).? The ideal bandwidth of the filter would be about 2.1 KHZ wide at the -6 db points and 4.2 khz wide at -60 db.? You may not be able to achieve quite that good a response with the simple ladder filter used in the BITX series, but it is the goal to strive for.? The slope at the sides of your filter should be as steep as possible.? Once you have a picture of your filter bandwidth you can adjust the BFO frequency to position it at the -20 db point on one side or the other of that pass-band.? Which side of the passband you use is determined by which sideband (USB or LSB) you wish to transmit.? Why put the carrier at the -20 db point...because that helps to attenuate some of the lower audio frequencies in the desired sideband.? These lower audio frequencies are not really necessary for intelligibility, but they do use up a significant amount of power if they are transmitted.? Filtering out the lower audio frequencies ( 0 hz to about 350 hz ) allows more of your transmitted power to represent only the audio spectrum that is necessary for communication.? This same characteristic helps improve the apparent quality of received signals by reducing received audio power that might be devoted to these lower and unnecessary frequencies. ALTERNATIVE FILTER PLOTTING METHOD: If you do not have a frequency counter for monitoring the 10 mhz signal source, there is an alternative method for plotting the bandwidth of your filter.? With the BFO "OFF", use the RF voltmeter arrangement and your tunable VFO Crystal oscillator to determine the center of your filter pass band.? Set the 10 mhz VFO crystal oscillator to the center of that bandwidth.? Now turn your BFO "ON" and adjust it for a zero-beat with the VFO crystal frequency.? Now comes the hard part!? Slowly adjust your VFO Crystal frequency to find the estimated 1000 hz tone location on both sides of this zero-beat.? Carefully mark those frequencies on the dial of your VFO Crystal tuning knob.? Now you can turn the BFO "OFF" and proceed to use your "calibrated" signal source (the VFO Crystal oscillator) to make an approximate plot of your IF Filter bandwidth.? Note, that this is only an approximate way to tune your filter, but it will get you close enough for most operations.? The signal level through the filter should decrease very rapidly as you tune beyond the 1 khz points ( +1 khz and -1khz represent a total of 2 khz and should be the approximate edges of your filter bandwidth). The IF Filter is probably the most confusing part of the BITX design, but it is also the easiest to duplicate if you use exactly the same components that Farhan specified.? Departing from Farhan's design specifications is what seems to cause the most confusion and doubt.? My recommendation would to build at least one BITX20 that is exactly like Farhan's original design.? That exercise provides the necessary experience to support deviating from his design, and it will provide you with a reference transceiver that may be used for comparison type troubleshooting. 73's Arv _._ From:? Hans Summers <> Date:? Wed?Jul?14,?2004? 2:38 am Subject:? RE: [BITX20] CRYSTAL MEASUREMENTS
? > Frequency reading is still moving / drifting, > although circuit has been warming up about 5 > minutes. > Q: How do you "note/catch" the frequency in this situation ? ? Your circuit and method look Ok to me... how bad is the drift, and what happens if you wait longer than 5 minutes? The drift could also be in your frequency counter (or PC if you are using that as a frequency counter). The crystal itself will also drift, we tend to think of crystals as rock stable but they aren't at all. Relative to an LC oscillator maybe, but not in absolute terms. Just read about the problems I had getting a stable frequency in my 30m QRSS beacon (?and ). ? In my BITX20 evaluation, I managed to find a socket which fit the crystals. If you are soldering the crystals in, you might find that the initial drift is rather high due to the crystal being so hot from the soldering iron and needing to cool back down to room temperature. A socket is better for testing. My socket was a proper HC49 socket temporarily "borrowed" out of a different unfinished project. But you can hunt around the junk box and another type of socket which will work Ok. The wires of the crystal are long enough that you can bend them slightly to fit in whatever socket you find to be suitable. Even with a socket, there was some initial drift due to the temperature stabilisation after me holding the crystal in my fingers. ? 73 Hans G0UPL http://www.HansSummers.com |
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Re: CRYSTAL MEASUREMENTS
Hans Summers
开云体育?
> Frequency reading is still
moving / drifting,
> although circuit has been
warming up about 5
> minutes.
> Q: How do you "note/catch" the
frequency in this situation ?
?
Your circuit and method look Ok to me... how bad is the
drift, and what happens if you wait longer than 5 minutes? The drift could also
be in your frequency counter (or PC if you are using that as a frequency
counter). The crystal itself will also drift, we tend to think of crystals as
rock stable but they aren't at all. Relative to an LC oscillator maybe, but not
in absolute terms. Just read about the problems I had getting a stable frequency
in my 30m QRSS beacon (?and
).
?
In my BITX20 evaluation, I managed to find a socket
which fit the crystals. If you are soldering the crystals in, you might find
that the initial drift is rather high due to the crystal being so hot from the
soldering iron and needing to cool back down to room temperature. A socket is
better for testing. My socket was a proper HC49 socket temporarily "borrowed"
out of a different unfinished project. But you can hunt around the junk box and
another type of socket which will work Ok. The wires of the crystal are long
enough that you can bend them slightly to fit in whatever socket you find to be
suitable. Even with a socket, there was some initial drift due to the
temperature stabilisation after me holding the crystal in my
fingers.
?
73 Hans G0UPL
http://www.HansSummers.com |
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Re: BITX20 & BITX40
Bharat Balsavar
Hi Arv,
Thanks a lot for the very detailed reply to my query and for offering to advise me on any problems I might face with building the trx. Knowing that I can bank on the group's knowledge and experience sure encourages me to experiment and learn and to build the project. Very warm regards. 73s ----- Bharat D Balsavar VU2BDX ----Original Message Follows---- From: Arv Evans <arvevans@...> Reply-To: BITX20@... To: BITX20@... Subject: Re: [BITX20] Re: BITX20 & BITX40 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:22:44 -0600 Bharat The discrete component AF Amplifier file is in the FILES and PHOTOS sections of the BITX20 forum on Yahoo.com You should be able to view and copy them from there. If you have problems please send me an email <arvevans@...> and I will reply directly to your email with an attached file of the audio amp that I used. Please be aware that I used a 741 Op-Amp in place of the LM-386 in my BITX20, and built the discrete component audio amplifier outboard in a speaker box. With just the Op-Amp (configured for a gain of 100) there is plenty of audio to run headphones (32 ohm Walkman style headphones with the earphone elements in series). The discrete audio amp is necessary only if you want to drive a speaker. If you want to eliminate need for an Op-Amp, you could probably just use a single transistor gain stage (much like Farhan's microphone amp circuit) and a simple emitter follower for your receive audio. I will try to work up a circuit diagram and test that sometime in the next few days. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONSTRUCTION TIPS: (1) Build both the RX audio section and the TX Microphone amplifier. By powering up both simultaneously you can drive the RX amp with your TX amp and microphone. This lets you test both audio sections before you build the rest of the circuit. (2) Build the IF Filter and the BFO. You can couple the output of your BFO (use a 3 pf capacitor) to the filter input and tune the BFO to determine your filter characteristics. You will need a method of accurately measuring the BFO frequency, and a simple RF detector & high impedance DC meter to measure filter output. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the front-end Band Pass Filter of the BITX40 I used a pair of 10.7 MHZ IF Transformers from an AM/FM transistor radio. These required 55 PF in parallel in order to bring them to resonance on 40 Meters. I used the whole inductor and ignored the tap on these transformers. The secondary winding of these was also ignored, but it might be interesting to experiment with coupling the input and/or output via those windings. A copy of the schematic and picture of this bandpass filter is in the PHOTOS section of this forum. Look in the directory showing my call sign (K7HKL). NOTE: There was no particular reason for using the 10.7 IF transformers other than that I had them available and wanted to experiment with using them in a 40 Meter receiver. You can also use Farhan's design for the front-end BPF (Band Pass Filter) and re-calculate & rewind the coils for 7.0 to 7.3 MHZ coverage. IDEA: Maybe someone could experimentally determine the "inductance versus turns" for tap washers and publish it on this forum. With that info we could easily scale Farhan's design to almost any band. My VFO is still not in a final stage of construction. I have built a PTO (also shown in the PHOTOS section) but am still trying to obtain exactly 10 KHZ per turn with good temperature stability. So far, that has eluded me! I have spread and compressed the coils to adjust the frequency coverage, but the turns on one end of the coil interact with the other end of the coil. I seem to be getting close to my goal, but it is still not at the point where I have an acceptably even spread of frequency from one end of the band to the other. Your BITX40 VFO will need to tune from 3.0 to 2.7 to cover 7.0 to 7.3 MHZ RX & TX if you use the standard 10 MHZ IF & BFO. Initial calculations indicate that this places all first-order spurs and all 2nd & 3rd harmonics outside the 40 Meter band. I admittedly have not done a detailed analysis of complex mixing products to insure that there will be absolutely no unwanted birdies within the passband. NOTE: VU2ITI has published a good article ( Ceramic_Resonator_VFO_by_VU2ITI_SPARK.pdf ) on using a ceramic resonator for VFO/VXO applications. If you can find a copy of that document you might be able to apply something like this for your BITX40, assuming you can find a ceramic resonator that is in the 3.0-2.7 MHZ range. At this point I also have not completed an acceptable linear amplifier section for 40 Meters. Plans are for this to probably be a push-pull set of IRF-510 devices, but work on another transceiver (not the BITX40) has taken priority over that effort. Obviously you can alter the inductors of Farhan's design to make it work on 40 Meters, but I want to go for a bit more power on 40, thus I will need to work up a different design for the linear. For my BITX40 I have built two different IF Filter modules. At this point I am not sure which to use. The ladder filter using 10 MHZ crystals did not tune up well for me (the one for my BITX20 worked perfectly), probably because I used a set of older & larger 10 MHZ crystals with apparently much different characteristics. I also built a lattice filter for 10 MHZ. This seems to have less loss and a steeper slope for exclusion of the upper sideband energy. However, I am still tinkering with both filters and am not ready to publish anything about them yet. If you are contemplating near-future completion of your BITX40 you should probably closely follow Farhan's design for the IF Filter and use the same brand (KDS) crystals that he recommends. In the FILES section of the forum you will find a spreadsheet program that calculates the VFO frequencies for BITX designs. This will also let you explore a design that uses crystals other than 10 MHZ for the filter and BFO. This might be handy if you are contemplating use of something like TV color-burst crystals (3.579 MHZ) for your filter and BFO (this is not recommended for a BITX40 though because your 3.579 MHZ BFO second harmonic would be at 7.158 in the 40 Meter band). My longer-term plan is to use color-burst crystals for an LF (0.160 to 0.190 MHZ) version of the BITX, but that will have to wait until I finish the BITX40. I will continue to publish portions of my BITX40 here on this forum as each section is finished and tested. If you have any particular problems please feel free to email me (I may be having the same problem...) and maybe we can possibly resolve them together. The other members of this forum are also a good source of ideas and solutions. 73's Arv - K7HKL _._ On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 23:46, Bharat D Balsavar wrote: Hi Arv,_________________________________________________________________ The bold ?n the beautiful! The rich and the famous! Meet them all at one place! |
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Re: Inexpensive plastic screwdriver
Arv Evans
开云体育PaoloIn the US, plastic knitting needles are available for an attractive price.? These range from 1/8 inch to 1/2 inch diameter.? The smaller ones are easily ground to a screwdriver point using sandpaper taped to a flat surface. If one is careful you can even shape them to hex or octagon shapes for adjusting slug tuned coils. TIP: For trial testing of coils to see if they need increased or decreased inductance you can build a simple tool to temporarily shift the inductance up or down.? Use a plastic drinking straw and insert a small brass rod (about 1/4 inch long) into one end.? Insert a small rod of ferrite material (a chunk of broken ferrite ring works fine) in the other end.? Now you can temporarily insert either end into your coil-under-test and observe the results.? The brass will cause an increase in frequency (decreased inductance) and the ferrite will cause a decrease in frequency (increased inductance). No, I have not tried this with the "Tap Washer Toroids" used in the BITX20, but I will later today because I am curious to see what the results might be. Arv _._ On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 01:52, Paolo Cravero as2594 wrote: Hi, |
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Re: BITX20 & BITX40
Arv Evans
开云体育BharatThe discrete component AF Amplifier file is in the FILES and PHOTOS sections of the BITX20 forum on Yahoo.com? You should be able to view and copy them from there.? If you have problems please send me an email and I will reply directly to your email with an attached file of the audio amp that I used.? Please be aware that I used a 741 Op-Amp in place of the LM-386 in my BITX20, and built the discrete component audio amplifier outboard in a speaker box.? With just the Op-Amp (configured for a gain of 100) there is plenty of audio to run headphones (32 ohm Walkman style headphones with the earphone elements in series).? The discrete audio amp is necessary only if you want to drive a speaker.? If you want to eliminate need for an Op-Amp, you could probably just use a single transistor gain stage (much like Farhan's microphone amp circuit) and a simple emitter follower for your receive audio.? I will try to work up a circuit diagram and test that sometime in the next few days. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONSTRUCTION TIPS: (1) Build both the RX audio section and the TX Microphone amplifier.? By powering up both simultaneously you can drive the RX amp with your TX amp and microphone.? This lets you test both audio sections before you build the rest of the circuit. (2) Build the IF Filter and the BFO.? You can couple the output of your BFO (use a 3 pf capacitor) to the filter input and tune the BFO to determine your filter characteristics.? You will need a method of accurately measuring the BFO frequency, and a simple RF detector & high impedance DC meter to measure filter output. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For the front-end Band Pass Filter of the BITX40 I used a pair of 10.7 MHZ IF Transformers from an AM/FM transistor radio.? These required 55 PF in parallel in order to bring them to resonance on 40 Meters.? I used the whole inductor and ignored the tap on these transformers.? The secondary winding of these was also ignored, but it might be interesting to experiment with coupling the input and/or output via those windings.? A copy of the schematic and picture of this bandpass filter is in the PHOTOS section of this forum.? Look in the directory showing my call sign (K7HKL). NOTE: There was no particular reason for using the 10.7 IF transformers other than that I had them available and wanted to experiment with using them in a 40 Meter receiver.? You can also use Farhan's design for the front-end BPF (Band Pass Filter) and re-calculate & rewind the coils for 7.0 to 7.3 MHZ coverage.? IDEA:? Maybe someone could experimentally determine the "inductance versus turns" for tap washers and publish it on this forum.? With that info we could easily scale Farhan's design to almost any band. My VFO is still not in a final stage of construction.? I have built a PTO (also shown in the PHOTOS section) but am still trying to obtain exactly 10 KHZ per turn with good temperature stability.? So far, that has eluded me!? I have spread and compressed the coils to adjust the frequency coverage, but the turns on one end of the coil interact with the other end of the coil.? I seem to be getting close to my goal, but it is still not at the point where I have an acceptably even spread of frequency from one end of the band to the other.? Your BITX40 VFO will need to tune from 3.0 to 2.7 to cover 7.0 to 7.3 MHZ RX & TX if you use the standard 10 MHZ IF & BFO.? Initial calculations indicate that this places all first-order spurs and all 2nd & 3rd harmonics outside the 40 Meter band.? I admittedly have not done a detailed analysis of complex mixing products to insure that there will be absolutely no unwanted birdies within the passband. NOTE: VU2ITI has published a good article ( Ceramic_Resonator_VFO_by_VU2ITI_SPARK.pdf ) on using a ceramic resonator for VFO/VXO applications.? If you can find a copy of that document you might be able to apply something like this for your BITX40, assuming you can find a ceramic resonator that is in the 3.0-2.7 MHZ range. At this point I also have not completed an acceptable linear amplifier section for 40 Meters.? Plans are for this to probably be a push-pull set of IRF-510 devices, but work on another transceiver (not the BITX40) has taken priority over that effort.? Obviously you can alter the inductors of Farhan's design to make it work on 40 Meters, but I want to go for a bit more power on 40, thus I will need to work up a different design for the linear. For my BITX40 I have built two different IF Filter modules.? At this point I am not sure which to use.? The ladder filter using 10 MHZ crystals did not tune up well for me (the one for my BITX20 worked perfectly), probably because I used a set of older & larger 10 MHZ crystals with apparently much different characteristics.? I also built a lattice filter for 10 MHZ.? This seems to have less loss and a steeper slope for exclusion of the upper sideband energy.? However, I am still tinkering with both filters and am not ready to publish anything about them yet.? If you are contemplating near-future completion of your BITX40 you should probably closely follow Farhan's design for the IF Filter and use the same brand (KDS) crystals that he recommends. In the FILES section of the forum you will find a spreadsheet program that calculates the VFO frequencies for BITX designs.? This will also let you explore a design that uses crystals other than 10 MHZ for the filter and BFO.? This might be handy if you are contemplating use of something like TV color-burst crystals (3.579 MHZ) for your filter and BFO (this is not recommended for a BITX40 though because your 3.579 MHZ BFO second harmonic would be at 7.158 in the 40 Meter band).? My longer-term plan is to use color-burst crystals for an LF (0.160 to 0.190 MHZ) version of the BITX, but that will have to wait until I finish the BITX40. I will continue to publish portions of my BITX40 here on this forum as each section is finished and? tested.? If you have any particular problems please feel free to email me (I may be having the same problem...) and maybe we can possibly resolve them together.? The other members of this forum are also a good source of ideas and solutions. 73's Arv - K7HKL _._ On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 23:46, Bharat D Balsavar wrote: Hi Arv, |
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