I'm wondering, in a quiet, museing, sort of way, whether its a reasonable prospect to use the IF strip as a driver to VHF using a transverter in place of the PA and RX BPF. I have suitable transverters to try it with but first I have to build the BITX. A good idea, if its possible, to add a MODS section. I guess that no one is going to build their second BITX without adding personality to the build. atb Mike W --
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Chris, & others...
Please take a closer look at the BITX IF string without any crystal filter. There would be no control of the passband and thus no way to tune a specific frequency, other than as a very broadband DC RX with a converter ahead of it. There would also be little rejection of image frequencies. The crystal filter is the only frequency determining part of the IF amplifier string, so at least some minimal bandwidth control is probably necessary. I have to admit that my first working receive-only mock-up of the BITX20 did use a pair of 10.7 IF transformers that were peaked at 10.0 MHZ in place of the crystal filter. It sort of worked (very, very broad tuning and prone to oscillation) so I purchased the necessary 10 MHz crystals and rebuilt it per Farhan's instructions.
Use of a single-crystal IF filter is interesting for QRP activists who may not need SSB. The IF filter loss would be significantly less than the 10 to 12 db of the ladder filter, and with a variable capacitor (maybe a varicap) it should be possible to adjust the bandwidth to some extent. Farhan & myself have discussed using the BITX for other modes, including CW by using a computer sound card or by making the microphone amplifier into a keyed oscillator (probably easier than unbalancing the modulator to get a keyed carrier).
The most intriguing part of the BITX design philosophy is that it is relatively easy and inexpensive to duplicate Farhan's design, and then to customize it for whatever special features you might want to try. Farhan uses his BITX on CW and PSK-31 as well as SSB, so we know it is capable of those modes. Listed below are a few of the more obvious modifications for the basic design:
(1) Consider the possibility of adding VOX by using a small relay for the T/R changeover and driving that relay with an amplified and rectified portion of the microphone audio. Anti-vox could be incorporated by integrating a small portion of the RX audio (in proper phase) with the VOX audio amplification. For CW the same VOX circuitry could automate RX - TX changeover.
(2) If you use computer driven modes of operation, you should probably include a connector for your computer on the back of your BITX-xx. This connector might include the coupling attenuators that are necessary to bring the sound card output down to the correct level to match your microphone amplifier input, as well as tapping the RX audio ahead of the volume control so that adjusting speaker volume would not disturb your computer RX signal level.
(3) Adding a simple FWD & REF power meter or SWR meter seems obvious and rather easy to do. The same meter could also be used as an audio-derived S-Meter with a one-transistor amplifier and a couple of diodes.
(4) Depending on the type and impedance of your antenna, it might be possible to include the antenna tuner inside the BITX enclosure for a nearly self-contained station.
(5) There are many options for the VFO, even building two VFOs for offset frequency operation. For my BITX40 I built a PTO instead of using the two-capacitor design of the BITX20. If one has built a DDS (Direct Digital Synthesis) unit, then that could become the VFO for your BITX.
(6) At least one BITX20 builder has shown pictures of his unit that incorporates an LCD frequency display, and another has shown his BITX with either 7-segment LED and /or binary frequency displays.
(7) While Farhan's original design does incorporate a linear amplifier section, it is possible to substitute any of several good linear amplifier circuits ( even a tube-type linear if you have one lying around ! ). I expect to soon hear of BITX designs that run much more power using combinations of parallel and push-pull IRF510 finals.
This amazing potential for altering and/or augmenting the basic unit is part of the magic associated with Farhan's original design. Maybe we should start a "BITX MODIFICATIONS" sub-section as part of the forum...? Hans, is it possible ( or even advisable ) to build a MODIFICATIONS sub-directory in the FILES section of BITX20@... that would support multiple users adding their circuits to that area?
73's Arv - K7HKL _._
On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 05:03, vdberghak wrote:
Hi,why the intention to add one x-tal as a filter if you want to generate DSB? Just remove the current IF filter from the design and you have already DSB! By doing this, you can also investigate (for example during receiving) the impact of the IF filter. If the received signal looks good without filter and is horrible with the filter, someting is wrong with the shape or position of the passband. Good lock, Chris.
Would it be possible to use a single 10 MHz (or other frequency) crystal
as
the IF filter in the BITX-xx design and simply center the carrier in the
IF passband. This would result in DSB (Double Sideband) instead of SSB
(Single Sideband) transmission, but it might work to get a system on the
air. One possible problem with this is that single-crystal IF filters
tend to be very narrow banded, in the order of 200 HZ, and have a steep
roll off on one sideband only. I am not sure what this characteristic
would do to the audio quality of a DSB signal. I guess that someone has
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Chris, & others...<BR> <BR> Please take a closer look at the BITX IF string without any crystal filter. There would be no control of the passband and thus no way to tune a specific frequency, other than as a very broadband DC RX with a converter ahead of it. There would also be little rejection of image frequencies. The crystal filter is the only frequency determining part of the IF amplifier string, so at least some minimal bandwidth control is probably necessary. I have to admit that my first working receive-only mock-up of the BITX20 did use a pair of 10.7 IF transformers that were peaked at 10.0 MHZ in place of the crystal filter. It sort of worked (very, very broad tuning and prone to oscillation) so I purchased the necessary 10 MHz crystals and rebuilt it per Farhan's instructions.<BR> <BR> Use of a single-crystal IF filter is interesting for QRP activists who may not need SSB. The IF filter loss would be significantly less than the 10 to 12 db of the ladder filter, and with a variable capacitor (maybe a varicap) it should be possible to adjust the bandwidth to some extent. Farhan & myself have discussed using the BITX for other modes, including CW by using a computer sound card or by making the microphone amplifier into a keyed oscillator (probably easier than unbalancing the modulator to get a keyed carrier).<BR> <BR> The most intriguing part of the BITX design philosophy is that it is relatively easy and inexpensive to duplicate Farhan's design, and then to customize it for whatever special features you might want to try. Farhan uses his BITX on CW and PSK-31 as well as SSB, so we know it is capable of those modes. Listed below are a few of the more obvious modifications for the basic design:<BR> <BR> (1) Consider the possibility of adding VOX by using a small relay for the T/R changeover and driving that relay with an amplified and rectified portion of the microphone audio. Anti-vox could be incorporated by integrating a small portion of the RX audio (in proper phase) with the VOX audio amplification. For CW the same VOX circuitry could automate RX - TX changeover.<BR> <BR> (2) If you use computer driven modes of operation, you should probably include a connector for your computer on the back of your BITX-xx. This connector might include the coupling attenuators that are necessary to bring the sound card output down to the correct level to match your microphone amplifier input, as well as tapping the RX audio ahead of the volume control so that adjusting speaker volume would not disturb your computer RX signal level.<BR> <BR> (3) Adding a simple FWD & REF power meter or SWR meter seems obvious and rather easy to do. The same meter could also be used as an audio-derived S-Meter with a one-transistor amplifier and a couple of diodes.<BR> <BR> (4) Depending on the type and impedance of your antenna, it might be possible to include the antenna tuner inside the BITX enclosure for a nearly self-contained station.<BR> <BR> (5) There are many options for the VFO, even building two VFOs for offset frequency operation. For my BITX40 I built a PTO instead of using the two-capacitor design of the BITX20. If one has built a DDS (Direct Digital Synthesis) unit, then that could become the VFO for your BITX.<BR> <BR> (6) At least one BITX20 builder has shown pictures of his unit that incorporates an LCD frequency display, and another has shown his BITX with either 7-segment LED and /or binary frequency displays. <BR> <BR> (7) While Farhan's original design does incorporate a linear amplifier section, it is possible to substitute any of several good linear amplifier circuits ( even a tube-type linear if you have one lying around ! ). I expect to soon hear of BITX designs that run much more power using combinations of parallel and push-pull IRF510 finals.<BR> <BR> This amazing potential for altering and/or augmenting the basic unit is part of the magic associated with Farhan's original design. Maybe we should start a "BITX MODIFICATIONS" sub-section as part of the forum...? Hans, is it possible ( or even advisable ) to build a MODIFICATIONS sub-directory in the FILES section of BITX20@... that would support multiple users adding their circuits to that area?<BR> <BR> 73's <BR> Arv - K7HKL<BR> _._<BR> <BR> On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 05:03, vdberghak wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <FONT COLOR="#737373"><I><TT>Hi,why the intention to add one x-tal as a filter if you want to <BR> generate DSB?<BR> Just remove the current IF filter from the design and you have <BR> already DSB!<BR> By doing this, you can also investigate (for example during <BR> receiving) the impact of the IF filter.<BR> If the received signal looks good without filter and is horrible <BR> with the filter, someting is wrong with the shape or position of the <BR> passband.<BR> Good lock,<BR> Chris.<BR> <BR> >Would<BR> > it be possible to use a single 10 MHz (or other frequency) crystal <BR> as<BR> > the IF filter in the BITX-xx design and simply center the carrier <BR> in the<BR> > IF passband. This would result in DSB (Double Sideband) instead <BR> of SSB<BR> > (Single Sideband) transmission, but it might work to get a system <BR> on the<BR> > air. One possible problem with this is that single-crystal IF <BR> filters<BR> > tend to be very narrow banded, in the order of 200 HZ, and have a <BR> steep<BR> > roll off on one sideband only. I am not sure what this <BR> characteristic<BR> > would do to the audio quality of a DSB signal. I guess that <BR> someone has<BR> > to try it for us to know for sure...?<BR> </TT><BR> </I></FONT><BR> <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="2"> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#ffffcc" ALIGN="center"> <FONT COLOR="#003399" SIZE="2"><B>Yahoo! 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