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Re: Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
Frankly I believe that one should never send CW faster than they can copy. I don't know what he intends to do if the decoder malfunctions or his computer freezes up. Or try to copy the other station when their signal is weak enough or conditions too noisy to get a good decode.
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Re: DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER
I do not see a problem. As long as we are gentle when winding the coils and add shielding per Ashhar¡¯s instructions for the filters, we can just use minimal ¡®fill¡¯ for a nearly hollow PLA toroid form, right? Or maybe I missed something (it would not be the first time)?
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Re: Sbitx finals replacement
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFarhanNo progress today. I guess I will wait for the upgrade kit. I have built and fixed several Ubitx rigs but this issue has me stumped.? Anyway once it get it going again I will enjoy this one as much.? Art N2AJO? On Aug 15, 2022, at 14:26, olson339@... wrote:
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Re: #sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
Steve, You might want to telnet to port 7000 of the rpi while sbitx is running. This an easter egg yet, I am not sure if I should produce a telnet remote or a web/http based remote facility.? It only shows the console output yet. The source code is at? On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 5:03 AM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
To track down the hum and spurs, I had a trick. I use a spectrum analyzer with its input connected to the DC power line through a 0.1uf capacitor. The important thing is that the RF cable between the Specan and the radio should be connected grounded properly at the radio end with a BNC connector, its ground tab directly soldered to the ground plane. This is an important detail. - f On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 5:11 AM JerryP <jponko@...> wrote:
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
Scott, I think you're probably good to go at this point. Extra bypass filtering on the output never hurts. In the olden days of HAM radio, 60/50Hz hum was the big problem with power HV power supplies. If your scope has Math functions you could use the FFT math function to look at the 200kHz signal and its harmonics. Otherwise, an AM radio would work to see if there are harmonics being generated around 600kHz- 700kHz and 1000kHz-1750kHz. Just tune across the AM band and see if you pick up something then turn the buck converter off to see if it's the source. On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 5:54 PM Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote: Hi Jerry, -- Jerry, AC9NM ÊÖÖеÄÄñÔÚ¹àľ´ÔÖÐÖµÁ½¸ö |
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Re: DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER
David, I did a bit of experimental work on this. The toroids need more than 15 turns or so for the self-shielding to work well. At fewer turns, the shielding though better than that of a conventional inductor, wasn't good enough to be used in a bandpass filter. In the Daylight radio, I had to add shielding between the three sections. - f On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 11:48 PM David McGaw <david.g.mcgaw@...> wrote:
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Re: sBITX waiting for shipping details
Mark, Shipping is included in the price? On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 3:11 AM kc5kwz <jrbritton@...> wrote:
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
If that RV had a solar panel on top, that could also be the source of the noise. Solar charge controllers are kinda like a variable switching power supply. Mine? causes interference all the way to 60 Mhz ! They are nasty. I would have thought that when the sun went down the noise would stop, but it doesn't change. I have to completely disconnect the controller to stop the noise. Max
On Sunday, August 14, 2022, 03:04:00 AM CDT, Alan Cooper <cqw7aln@...> wrote:
my hope is that everyone is aware that there are active ham operational bands at 137khz and at 472khz - 479khz as well as comercial cw stations still using 500khz ? I have often heard horrendous noise from RV users who have filthy spurs from their switcher power supplies/battery chargers from 100khz clear up through 14mhz!?!! ?but maybe i am the only one who has had these Reciever problems with "switcher" power supplies blanking out the radio.? if I am out of line for mentioning these types of problems with switchers please ignore me...I am not wanting to cause trouble. Alan w7aln On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 6:17 AM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
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Re: #sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
Thanks Steve! On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 4:47 AM Steve Beckman <ssteven3sb@...> wrote:
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#sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
Farhan; You have created an amazing radio. I love that the radio has the ability to recompile it's own software. I love that the code is open-source, so that changes can easily be made to add features, and tailor the radio to behave exactly the way I want it to. I've enabled SSH so that I can remotely log into my radio from a laptop and do things from the command line, while sitting on my sofa in another room watching the news. I've installed XRDP so that I can remotely log into the desktop from my laptop and run the sBitx software remotely. I haven't gotten sound working via RDP yet; that's a bit more complex from a linux host. For now I¡¯m using a bluetooth transmitter plugged into the headphone jack. The Rpi has bluetooth built-in, but the sbitx app is not set up to route audio to the BT device. Will have to investigate that option.... The sBitx should really appeal to those who are comfortable with computers, and like to experiment with software vs solder and wire. This radio has really been a blast - and is also a great way to learn more about DSP algorithms and linux in general. 73; Steve, N3SB
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Re: Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
David, this is really, really sad. Your friend is missing out on so many things -- the thrill of learning and developing new skills, the joy of conversing in a new language, not to mention the brain-building and brain-health maintenance that CW provides to its practitioners. And one more loss -- I, for one, will NEVER have a meaningful QSO with him. -- Rich WB2GXM ------ Original message------ From: david todd via Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 4:19 PM To: [email protected]; Cc: Subject:Re: [BITX20] Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6 Friend of mine is a no code ham. he learned the basics of the code and uses a decoder to decode the cw. he sends about 20 wpm with his paddle ,which doesnt make sense because he cant copy past 6 wpm with his ears. i proved this with on air copy. doing about 8 to 10 wpm. he said he couldnt copy it even though he sends really fast. he doesnt try to decode the cw in his head since the decoder is doing it for him. I told him if you can send 20wpm you should be able to receive faster than 8. no way. i had 3 other hams verify this. WEIRD,BUT TRUE.He stated"why learn to copy faster when i have my decoder. he uses software to do this on his not knocking him,but i did explain the reasonings of not using one.happy he is trying cw and using it,but the decoder gives him a false sense of accomplishment. he has been using this setup for several years and still cant copy faster than about 6 wpm. WEIRD ISNT IT. My friend is an engineer for 30 years, very very smart, but has been ruined by his decoder. HI HI.3 of us have been working with him with various,various methods, and we even paid for his classes,etc just to be friendly. he went,but the instructor stated "ive never seen anyone who can send 20wpm and not copy by ear at least over 6 wpm. He refuses to try to fill his head with the decode but can send 20 wpm with his paddle. foud out some of his secret. he uses precanned groups of statements. qth,radio,rst,etc. He goes thro the motions and then after his decoder decodes the other hams info he clicks the statements he wants sent next,it also includes the 73,etc. .very canned,very brief, using decoder and software on computer.? is he running cw? yes,but with an analog radio and no goodies attached to it,like a decoder,he is dead in the water without it.Ive praised him over and over for trying CW,but He stated "i can make 1000s of cw contacts and basically not even know CW"The computer and decoder will do it all for me.His words,not so his paddle is basically for looks. he uses computer control to do the sending 99% of the time. please inform the other end u are using one if you cant decode the signals when adjacent qrn,qrm,qsb affects it or you are in a is leads to abrupt endings of qsos. or qsos that really seem robot operated.I ran into this when doing ft8. Someone calling cq forever and not responding to others who respond to their CQ. just my own opinion of it. 73 David ac9xh |
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
Hi Jerry,
Ok, I see.? That makes sense.? It looks like there is very little real energy in the above 200kHz range (if any).? The only other thing I have tried was a cap on the output.? The larger the output cap, +1000uF, the overall ripple reduces.? I probably need to build a filter for the output and make some tests.? Can't do anything else.? DigiKey is late. I've only got an oscilloscope to work with and I've not installed the converter in the radio just yet.? I'm not exactly sure how to look for harmonics without an analyzer.? Can you suggest another way to look? ? ? Thanks again, Scott |
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
Scott, The reduction in capacitance was because you really only need to filter out the 350kHz signal. Did you try a filter on the output side of the buck converter? Are you seeing any harmonics in HF range? On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:36 PM Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote: Hi Jerry, -- Jerry, AC9NM ÊÖÖеÄÄñÔÚ¹àľ´ÔÖÐÖµÁ½¸ö |
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
please remember that there are ham bands at 136khz, 472-479? khz, and commercial marine cw at 420khz and 500khz. a switcher drifting its spurs around? might well make the radio unusable down there.? the question might be...does any of the operaters of this radio care about that possibility? I? would submit that yes there just might be.. Alan w7aln cw forever? the original digital aka morse code (circa 1850's) On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 1:36 PM Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote: Hi Jerry, |
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Re: sBITX waiting for shipping details
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How much was shipping on that kit? On August 16, 2022 at 2:23 PM "Mark Earnest via groups.io" <mark@...> wrote: ? |
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Re: Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
Jack, W8TEE
David: I've never run into such a person, but clearly he does not want to learn CW, so he's never going to use ALP as a learning tool. He's using it as a crutch, and that's not the position I'm taking with a decoder. The goal for anyone who is learning CW is to be able to copy the code in their head. Clearly, that's not his goal and probably never will be. I still think it can be a learning tool. True, ALP can be a crutch for some, but that was not the reason I invested so much of my time in it. Your friend is, indeed, an anomaly. I have a club member who bragged that he got his CW WAS award, but doesn't know CW. He did it with FT8. To me, such awards should have an asterisk beside them. Maybe the rules will change. Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 04:19:24 PM EDT, david todd via groups.io <ac9xh@...> wrote:
last point of my opinion, and i apologize if i come across as a hater,but im not. Friend of mine is a no code ham. he learned the basics of the code and uses a decoder to decode the cw. he sends about 20 wpm with his paddle ,which doesnt make sense because he cant copy past 6 wpm with his ears. i proved this with on air copy. doing about 8 to 10 wpm. he said he couldnt copy it even though he sends really fast. he doesnt try to decode the cw in his head since the decoder is doing it for him. I told him if you can send 20wpm you should be able to receive faster than 8. no way. i had 3 other hams verify this. WEIRD,BUT TRUE.He stated"why learn to copy faster when i have my decoder. he uses software to do this on his computer.Im not knocking him,but i did explain the reasonings of not using one.happy he is trying cw and using it,but the decoder gives him a false sense of accomplishment. he has been using this setup for several years and still cant copy faster than about 6 wpm. WEIRD ISNT IT. My friend is an engineer for 30 years, very very smart, but has been ruined by his decoder. HI HI.3 of us have been working with him with various,various methods, and we even paid for his classes,etc just to be friendly. he went,but the instructor stated "ive never seen anyone who can send 20wpm and not copy by ear at least over 6 wpm. He refuses to try to fill his head with the decode but can send 20 wpm with his paddle. foud out some of his secret. he uses precanned groups of statements. qth,radio,rst,etc. He goes thro the motions and then after his decoder decodes the other hams info he clicks the statements he wants sent next,it also includes the 73,etc. .very canned,very brief, using decoder and software on computer.? is he running cw? yes,but with an analog radio and no goodies attached to it,like a decoder,he is dead in the water without it.Ive praised him over and over for trying CW,but He stated "i can make 1000s of cw contacts and basically not even know CW"The computer and decoder will do it all for me.His words,not mine.Also his paddle is basically for looks. he uses computer control to do the sending 99% of the time. please inform the other end u are using one if you cant decode the signals when adjacent qrn,qrm,qsb affects it or you are in a pileup.This leads to abrupt endings of qsos. or qsos that really seem robot operated.I ran into this when doing ft8. Someone calling cq forever and not responding to others who respond to their CQ. just my own opinion of it. 73 David ac9xh -- Jack, W8TEE |
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Re: #sbitx mod
#sBitx
Hi Jerry,
Right.? The choke is in series with the converter module input.? The cap is after the choke connected input to ground of the converter.? I made the swap to 10uF but I don't see a significant change?.? Curious: Why the reduction in capacitance?? It seems to me that reducing the frequency range of the DC bus (via 1000uF cap) develops a better condition for the buck regulator to operate.? If I understand these buck converters right, the choke of the converter is charged and then discharged into the output when the charger FET is turned off.? The result is a pulsing DC? ? To be clear, the waveforms I've been sending are of the converter output, zoomed into the the ripple only of the 5.3xx vdc output.? In general, the frequency of the ripple is above 200KHz with a p-p magnitude of about 50mV.? That's about 1% DC regulation at a pretty high frequency.? It seems to me that if the noise is above the audible range that the audio amplifier(s) may boost it but it will never get heard.? Or is it a desired condition to drive the noise frequency to a specific range? I'm a long time UPS guy.? I have good knowledge of rectifiers, inverters, solid state switch schemes and battery technology but DC use in an audio to RF environment is still new to me.?? I do appreciate your thoughts. Thanks again, Scott ![]() ? ? |
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