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prepare for FT8 & LOTW #sBitx

 


While waiting for the power mod I am looking at LOTW. I can read that the Pi
LOTW app needs to upload ADIF-type files. I don't read that file type from the currently installed loger.
Has anyone replaced the installed log program with one that has the?
ADIF file type?

John


Re: DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER

 

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Group, general question on the plastic toroid material. I know the higher the Q the better but with the printed toroid what is the general range of the different plastics? Any one have any numbers on this?

Thanks

Barry

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From: Ashhar Farhan
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER

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Yes, Mark,

With VHF, you want more turns rather than fewer and a brass bolt makes a great, inexpensive inductor tuning mechanism.

- f

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On Sat, Aug 20, 2022, 11:33 PM Mark - N7EKU <n7eku@...> wrote:

I don't get it,

How would brass make a good core for VHF?? Its reluctance is higher than air, thus it reduces the inductance of whatever is wound around it.? Logically this would result in a lower Q than using an air wound inductor.

Cheers and 73

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Re: Nextion Display Install #nextion #v6

 

Once again thank you Evan.?
I went through my parts and I actually have all of the parts for the S-Meter on hand.
What would be a good way to secure the second Nano inside the uBITX??
i do not think that it would be acceptable for it to flop around in the case.?
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Aaron K5ATG


Re: #sbitx mod #sBitx

 

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Some days ago Ashar described what needs to be changed for a different solution. It did not seem to be a very big issue. From my experience you won¡®t need a touch screen in order to operate the transceiver. The touch screen sort of replaces the mouse or a trackpad.?
Vy 73 de?
Rolf, DL8BAG?

Am 22.08.2022 um 14:00 schrieb Ken N2VIP <ken@...>:

?I've not tried the configuration you describe, but I can confirm that the mouse is able to fully take the place of the touch interface, meaning the mouse can be used on any screen element.

The next question is how the sBitx screen display will render on a screen with a vastly different resolution (the RPi touchscreen is 800x480 resolution, from memory). It would likely have huge swaths of black above and below the display.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 22, 2022, at 04:02, HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:

?Hi Scott,
just out of curiosity, does the device work without using the touch screen? When you only use the keyboard and touch pad?
With hdmi, there is a video and audio connection and no touch screen.
So if I didn't use the DSI monitor connection (only HDMI) would the device still be usable?
Thank you for sharing.
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Gyula HA3HZ


Re: #sbitx mod #sBitx

 

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Scott,

Thanks for the excellent field report and the great pictures. I like the idea of attaching a second monitor to support third-party applications, and and glad to hear about your successes with WSJT-X in the unit.

My sBitx was bought without an RPi, and is currently running with a 2 Gig RAM model, I wonder if I should upgrade to a 4 Gig RAM model if I want to run third-party apps as you did? It may not be needed, but it might just provide a bit more room for the software to work with...

Thanks again!

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 21, 2022, at 16:41, Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote:

?Hi All,

Once again, I have to praise Ashhar for his design.? Once the LM338 is replaced with a buck regulator, the radio works great.? I've run WSJT in wspr mode on and off for a few days and I have had no problems.

In order to run WSJT is wspr mode, after launching sbitx, close Fldigi and then open WSJT.? Only one can run at a time because the active program cannot "share" audio information.? Anyway, once this is done, set the radio in DIGITAL mode, adjust the power to your liking and let it rip!? Tuning the sbitx will set WSJT after a second or two.? It will not work the other way, FYI,? By the way, I can't imagine doing this without a second monitor.? I suppose you could do it without a second monitor but it might get confusing. For the cost of a micro HDMI to HDMI cable (my monitor has three inputs: DVI, VGA, HDMI) and minor alteration to the right side panel, you get a very capable system.? Mind you, even though there are two (2) micro HDMI jacks, the RPI does not support more than two (2) monitors.? Yes, the DSI port is a monitor port.? Bummer!

Here are a few pics:

?sBitx wspr Tx.jpg

sBitx in wspr transmit


sBitx wspr 2nd mon.jpg

WSJT in wspr mode (2nd RPI monitor)


sBitx wspr spots.jpg

Spots

As a comparison, I tried to match the output of my Ten Tec Jupiter at approximately the same power setting using the same end fed antenna and the results are just about the same.? I'm going to call it the same because you never know exactly if and when you'll get responses.

Oh, In case you noticed, I added two LEDS to the front panel: power and transmit indications.? PWR LED comes from the 5Vdc feed from the RPI to the display and the transmit LED is fed from the coil of the K9 relay.? I sized the resistors to only draw 4-5mA which I can't see that being a problem for the U4 driver and certainly not the 5Vdc source.? If I were to do this again, I'd probably mount the LEDs above the two encoders.? Neither above the encoders of just below the upper encoder (or above the lower encoder) is ideal but since the real estate between the two encoders is populated with the J1 connector, I chose the location just below the upper encoder.

Now to work on JS8Call.

Cheers, Scott


Re: #sbitx mod #sBitx

 

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I've not tried the configuration you describe, but I can confirm that the mouse is able to fully take the place of the touch interface, meaning the mouse can be used on any screen element.

The next question is how the sBitx screen display will render on a screen with a vastly different resolution (the RPi touchscreen is 800x480 resolution, from memory). It would likely have huge swaths of black above and below the display.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 22, 2022, at 04:02, HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:

?Hi Scott,
just out of curiosity, does the device work without using the touch screen? When you only use the keyboard and touch pad?
With hdmi, there is a video and audio connection and no touch screen.
So if I didn't use the DSI monitor connection (only HDMI) would the device still be usable?
Thank you for sharing.
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Gyula HA3HZ


#sbitx: microphone - Kenwood Plug

 

Hi,
has anybody already connected a microphone with 2.5mm and 3.5mm Trs to the sBitx?
Vy73 de
Rolf, DL8BAG


Re: #ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

That looks like the one...many thanks!


Re: #ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

Mark,

There are other screens from KN4UD and K3RTA.?

These are the ones that I have:

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: #sbitx mod #sBitx

 

Hi Scott,
just out of curiosity, does the device work without using the touch screen? When you only use the keyboard and touch pad?
With hdmi, there is a video and audio connection and no touch screen.
So if I didn't use the DSI monitor connection (only HDMI) would the device still be usable?
Thank you for sharing.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: #ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

Also trying to collect the screens here.?




will add this one too!?


73
Mark
AJ6CU


Re: sBitx success story, and a few cautions

 

I tried holding down the button longer. DIdn't work; it insisted on entering letters. Maybe my technique needs work.

I didn't expect everything to be perfect in version 1.0 of the software. Finding these things out is part of why I took it out for this event, especially since I think I'm more CW-oriented than the typical customer for the bitX line. (If I had just wanted to make contacts I would have grabbed the K2.) I'm not unhappy with how things went.

Also, thank you to Niels for the info about an on-screen keyboard for other uses.

On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 8:38 PM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
Shirley,
Thanks for the extensive feedback. To enter the digits, just hold down the button in the display keyboard for a longer time.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 4:26 AM Niels Jalling <niels@...> wrote:
You can get a? keyboard on the touch screen to be used for setting up wifi.



/niels, oz9ny


Re: sBitx success story, and a few cautions

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences, I'm holding back on transmitting with mine (for now), I'll wait for the 'enhancement kit' before trying out the transmitter, I'm very pleased with the receiver so far...

I wonder if any off-the-shelf RPi RTC solutions would work in this radio...

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 21, 2022, at 18:42, Shirley Dulcey KE1L <mark@...> wrote:

The #1 lesson for now: always bring a keyboard!


Re: sBitx success story, and a few cautions

 

Shirley,
Thanks for the extensive feedback. To enter the digits, just hold down the button in the display keyboard for a longer time.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2022, 4:26 AM Niels Jalling <niels@...> wrote:
You can get a? keyboard on the touch screen to be used for setting up wifi.



/niels, oz9ny


FOR SALE: uBitx V6

 

I purchased the full kit with the thought of installing modifications. After some soul searching I realized that I don¡¯t have the time, nor the expertise to program a new display. I built the kit last week and everything works fine. I purchased a Nextion 2.8 display and will include in the purchase price.?

Price $180.00 includes shipping lower 48 States. If interested please contact me off list.?

73
John W9QP?


Re: sBitx success story, and a few cautions

 

You can get a? keyboard on the touch screen to be used for setting up wifi.



/niels, oz9ny


sBitx success story, and a few cautions

 

I don't do a lot of HF operation from home because my urban neighborhood has a very high noise floor. So the first real workout for my sBitx came today in the NJQRP Skeeter Hunt.

My operation was strictly CW because I accidentally left my microphone at home. (I use a modified Baofeng microphone, which I modded myself because I bought the basic kit.) I also left the keyboard at home (Logitech K400 Plus, which also incorporates a trackpad -- it's the same model that?Farhan uses), which turned out to be a serious mistake.

I was operating in a QRP contest so the output level was kept at 5 watts. If I had had the microphone along I would have turned it up to 10 watts for SSB (the NJQRP event allows that, some QRP contests do not), but that likely would have not headed up the radio any more than CW at 5W did. This is an unmodified rig that still has the LM338 regulator so I do not want to push its thermal limits; operating in a QRP event meant it was not an issue.

First, the good. The sBitx receiver works very well. Sensitivity was adequate for the 40 and 20 meter bands, which are the ones I used during this operation; the receiver could hear down to the noise floor of the band, which is all that is needed. I briefly?listened to 15?but there was no activity there; 20 wasn't great so I suspect 15 wasn't open at all. The audio quality is excellent. The flexible filters are effective and easy to adjust. The two encoders both work well; tuning the rig and operating the other controls is mostly simple. The transmitter got out well; I only made a few contacts due to poor band conditions, but it did the job for the ones I did make.

Next, the bad. I couldn't find a way to type numbers on the on-screen keyboard, and since I had left the physical keyboard at home I was unable to enter commands like setting the time (which I would have needed to do to try out FT8) or to use it to send Morse. (The capability is useless if you can't send call signs.) A real keyboard is also essential for setting up macros, so unless you meticulously set up your radio before a contest you'll need to have a keyboard along. Something about the internal iambic keyer, timing and/or polling rate, is off; I found it very difficult to send Morse with it, while I can easily do that with the same Palm paddle on my K2 or QCX. (I'm accustomed to iambic B mode and my other rigs are set up to use that, in case it matters.) The AGC made listening to weak CW signals unpleasant; it was far better to turn it off.?The T/R hang time after sending CW was longer than necessary.?The sBitx has no AM reception mode; I tried listening to some AM and shortwave broadcasts in SSB mode, which mostly worked well but AGC was an issue because with no carrier in the passband it was overly active.

I saw and heard some artifacts from broadcast stations. There is an AM station not far from my operating site so that was the likely cause. I couldn't tell whether I was hearing radiated harmonics from the station (there is no fix for that) or front end intermodulation products caused by the strong out-of-band signals (a high pass filter on the input would help). The signal from the nearby station was easy to receive even with the IF gain turned all the way down to ZERO and would distort if the gain was set much higher; it was STRONG.

As have others, I experienced periodic audio noise unless I turned WiFi off. I tried to use it briefly so I could set the clock by syncing with an NTP server, using my phone as a hotspot, but I couldn't type the password into the WiFi setup box so that also didn't work. (The onscreen keyboard only works inside the sBitx application, not for stuff in the OS.) Yet another reason to have a keyboard!

As expected, the rig only got slightly warm. I was sending at low power for only a small percentage of the time, as I was mostly searching for contacts rather than calling CQ. The upgrade to the switching regulator is necessary for some ops, and the reduction in receive power consumption is welcomed by all of us, but my sBitx worked fine for this use case without the mod.

Suggestions for future improvements: Add an AM reception mode. Improve the AGC action for CW. Add some additional features to the receiver, especially notch filtering and a noise blanker. Fix the issues with the keyer. Make the on-screen keyboard more useful by providing an easy way to type numbers and special characters. Add a way to set up macros without an external keyboard.??The A/B VFO control should relinquish the focus immediately after use; typically you tap it to switch VFOs, there is no reason for it to also hold onto the rotary encoder.The good news: ALL OF THESE can be implemented without changes to the hardware; that's the beauty of SDR.

The sBitx as it stands is already a good radio. But it can become an ever better one.

?The #1 lesson for now: always bring a keyboard!


Re: #ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

That's great, many thanks!? I'll try as soon as I get home tonight.


Re: #ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

I believe that this one from K3RTA has the screens that you want.? Included is the basic and enhanced versions.? You need the LTS editor to compile without the out-of-memory error.

73
Evan
AC9TU


#ubitx v6 3.5" Nextion HMI with DSP option? #ubitx

 

H All,
I've just installed a second Arduino to get the improved s-meter and spectrum displays. I'm running CEC 1.2 and all's working well except that I can't find a Nextion HMI/TFT for the 3.5 E that includes the DSP option. Ian's (KD8CEC)? one that is labelled as 3.5E, actually only fills part of the screen as though it's scaled for 2.8".
Before I go through what looks like a painful process of rescaling the HMI, does anyone have a HMI for the 3.5" E that includes DSP option?
Or maybe I'm missing something here?

Thanks
Steve ZL1SGS