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Hello,

Maybe we should be utilizing free internet services like youtube for videos and flickr for photos.? Dropbox has a free acount but is limited.? And look at other cloud storage providers out there too.

Then link to these resources in our email.? Just examples.

But, the advantage of attachments of emails is that attachments will still be there years from now.? Content on varous internet services can be flagged for anything: hate speech, profanity, copyrighted material like music, politics that someone disagrees with, etc.? Or the person who uploaded the videos (not necessarily the author) decides to delete those videos later.?

I know my phone can re-size an image when I send an email.? So, my 30 MB bloated image becomes 100K as an example.? Most images taken by a smartphone are such a high quality image that take up a considerable amount of space more than what most people need to see.? These images should be resized to fit a smaller space and then attached to an email.?

Or add the file to the file section of the google group.? Make sure to create folders to organzie stuff.? But google groups usually have a limit to what it can hold.? And like another ham mentioned, old cruft would need to be deleted - but who decides what and when?

However, I think the best thing to do is to utilize the cloud storage providers and provide a link in the email to the resource in the cloud.? But keep a back up of the resource just in case...

I use my email inbox to let me know when someone created a new topic or replied to a topic in a google group.? But I generally like to go to the web interface to reply or create a new topic.

- Daniel KK4MRN

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 12:31:27 PM EDT, Jack, W8TEE via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:

Ed:

Not entirely correct. The central issue here is not the space on your personal system, but the storage space eaten by dup posting with attachements/images on a Forum. When you have over 2500 members, many of whom seem to assume the group doesn't have to pay for storage, bloated posts eat things up faster than you might imagine.

Jack, W8TEE

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 12:26:33 PM EDT, Ed Borghi <kb2e@...> wrote:

You know what?? Some people will never understand.? I had customers that
paid me to clean up their business hard drives.? 2 terrabyte drives with
1.7 terrabytes left after 2 years!? CLEAN OUT THE JUNK!!!? I'm wasting
space.? I'd delete *maybe* a gig. Yep when space was expensive and file
types were inefficient I could see it but today it takes forever to use
up 2 terrabytes for most people.? The space worry warts belong to the
same clubs whose members 2 car garage is empty of ANYTHING with a floor
you can eat off of who will lose sleep if something is stored there for
more than 2 or 3 hours!

On 6/7/2022 12:13 PM, Ken N2VIP wrote:
> A one meg attachment occupies the same space if stored in an email or in the files section. The issue is download time for users with sub-optimal connections, as well as people replying to an email with a picture and the picture is duplicated in each reply (it's up to the replier to trim out the image/choose not to include image).
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>> On Jun 6, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Rick Green <rtg@...> wrote:
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>>> Jack's very valid point about server usage aside, I highly recommend you go to /g/BITX20/editsub and change your email delivery
>>> preference to either no email or special notices only.? Then access the list at /g/BITX20/topics and read it like a forum instead
>>> of wading through email.? Not only will this free up your inbox it groups messages by subject making topics easier to follow.
>> I agree with these sentiments.? For most of the 90's I was stuck with dialup service while the public use of the Internet was exploding.? The developers and 'Influencers' all seemed to have unlimited broadband access, so they accelerated the use of gratuitous graphics, with no concern for the majority of internet users who had 56k or slower intermittent connections at that time.
>>? 'Just use Delete' isn't the answer.? A large bloated message in your Inbox will hang up your connection until its fully downloaded, and will delay or prevent the delivery of many smaller messages until it is complete.
>>? A possible workaround for the user is the IMAP protocol rather than POP3 for mail delivery.? IMAP allows for the download of just the index of available messages, so that the user can selectively download them, or delete them on the server unread.? Most web browsers have an option to suppress the display of all graphics unless individually requested.? I used this as an advertisement blocker for many years.
>>? A question for the group administrator:? The Groups.io service has many options, including the 'Forum' mode you mention above.? I believe it also has a 'files' section reserved for each group, and I've seen some groups encourage its use in preference to attachments.? Does Groups.io also have an option to automatically strip attachments from all posted messages, and convert them to links into the groups 'files' section?? This would also eliminate the duplicate bloat which happens when users include the images again in their reply messages.
>>? Hopefully the threading capability of the forum can also detect and suppress the full quotation of previous messages, which easily becomes its own form of bloat.
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