Jerry,
I agree that we need more than one MMIC for the TX gain stages.
My initial idea was/is? to replace the "famous" Q90 with a three
transistor W7ZOI amp (gain = 15 dB) may be using even BFR106
instead of the MMBT3904.
The output power of this stage may be limited to about +3 dBm as
W7ZOI?? stated when using this amp in bidirectional mode. used in
a single direction the linear oputput may be higher.?? The next
stage has to deliver the necessary +14 dBm or even a bit more for
"headroom") -- for this stage a MMIC could be one choice or
another suitable "medium power transitor" with a high ft.?
Henning
Am 09.10.2018 um 20:06 schrieb Jerry
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First off, the uBitx as is does pretty well on 80/40/20 meters.
Power drops off on the stock uBitx as we go up to 15 and 10
meters.
There's 6 months worth of discussion in this forum about how
best to?
get power up to where it should be on those high bands.
Tough to do, most attempts failed when modifying the existing
uBitx power amp.
Grafting the QSX amp into the uBitx could mostly solve that.
Could also solve issues of power amp energy coupling back into
the IF amps,
especially if the power amp is off in it's own box.
But the current signal levels in the IF amps and mixers create
trouble with spurs
on those upper bands.? Not too much point in going to the QSX
power amp unless
we clean that stuff up first.? And while we're at it, improve
IMD and carrier leakage
in those IF amps and mixers as well.
?
If we assume we increase local oscillator CLK2 into the first
mixer at D1,D2 up to 7dBm,
then the maximum signal into it from the 45mhz IF during
transmit should be at least 10dB down
from that, or about -3dBm.? The mixer probably has a loss of
around 6dB, and the 30mhz LPF
might lose another dB.? So if we replace everything from Q90 on
out to the IRF510's with a
new power amp, that new amp will see a max of -10dBm, or 0.1mW
going in.
This new QSX amp has 26 dB of gain for 10W out (where 10W out is
+40dBm),
so needs 40dBm-26db = 14dBm going into the QSX amp (as Henning
has said).
We need at least an additional 24 dB of gain to go from -10 dBm
out of the 30mhz LPF
to +14dBm into the QSX amp.? That could easily be done with two
MMIC stages,
and there are many such MMIC's capable of delivering 14dBm of
power to the QSX amp.
Some extra gain in those two MMIC's would be good so we?can keep
the signal through
the mixers even lower, and have some headroom for an adjustment
such as RV1 of the uBitx.
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If you plan to bring the power up to 20W by boosting the supply
voltage into the QSX amp,
then you will need another 3dB of power going in, so
14dBm+3dB=17dBm into the QSX amp.
And at 20W, you would want heavier transmit LPF's than the ones
provided on the uBitx.
Also, it may be a good idea to have a 3dB attenuator between the
MMIC's and the QSX amp
to keep it stable.
It will be interesting to see how clean we can make the uBitx as
an exciter.
May need better transistors in the 45mhz stage, certainly want
less gain
on the two transmit side IF amps.? Want 7dBm of drive from the
local oscillators.
Perhaps the transformers in the mixers are not ideal, especially
at 45mhz.
Raj has made considerable progress in sorting this some of this
out.
?
I've got a QSX amp on order.?
Looking forward to playing with it.
But the uBitx has other issues to fix before we make use of the
QSX amp
to increase power out on those upper bands.
Jerry, KE7ER
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 07:54 AM, Henning Weddig wrote:
Hans,
I just ordered one of Your 10 W PA kits and quickly read over
the assembly instruction.
Concerning the UBITX: the PA delivers 26 dB of gain, so for
10 W output the input power for the PA is +40 dBm - 26 dB =
+14 dBm This power can be easily achieved with only one MMIC
e.g. one of the GALI amps--- or a discrete verions (BS170)?
As You also offer LPF kits, the problems of the uBITX can be
obsolete, but requires extra space for these extra boards.
One thing I m missing are the information about the P1dB
pointz ( 40 dBm)? and IMD performance.?
Henning Weddig
DK5LV