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Jack Purdum
All: I agree with Graham. Recently I've submitted a few docs as attachments, feeling that if they are wanted by someone, they will be download and save it by the reader. If the moderators feel it's worth it, they will upload it. (Also, I couldn't upload it even if I wanted to.) In many cases, I really appreciate having the first email that elicited a given response as part of the answer, like I'm doing here. Given that it's been posted already, it does take more space to keep Graham's and my response, but I find it helpful to have both in that it gives context. I suggest that, if the first response is in the second, the first response be deleted. Second, it's time to pony up so we don't keep "chasing our tail". There is no such thing as a free lunch. We've enjoyed the lunch, it's now time to pay the server and the company. If there is anyone in this group who doesn't feel it's worth $1 to belong here, they are free to keep their dollar and move on. I've forgotten who is tracking the subjects and doing some organization to the benefit of all of us, but with all the members here, perhaps we could even pay him to add more granularity to the search engine. Implementationwise, I'm not sure how that would work. We may even end up with our own web site with an SQL-language search engine. Something to think about. In any event, I do think it's time to start charging for the nuggets we all find here. Jack, W8TEE ? From: Graham <planophore@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [BITX20] No uploads - support replied good day all, I don't think attachments should go. They are an important and intuitive part of using groups like this. Adding attachments are easy and having them right there with the email and I can save those I want to keep. It is far better than the Yahoo model where you had to go to yahoo to view the attachments. I think we are in general missing the real issue. This group has bumped up against that limit more than once. The "limit" is the issue not what we should or shouldn't keep.? Once you start trying to trim away some of "fat" you will end up constantly chasing your tail around trying to "purge" and the more you do the more reluctant you get to delete anything. Todd and others have already suggested that the group fund itself in order to support more storage space but there seems to the be an underlying unspoken hesitation of many. If I belong to 10 (or more) such groups on io and I contributed $1 per year in order support the cost of extra storage then I would consider that $10 well spent, not only do I benefit but so do others, perhaps those others will benefit even more than I, so much the better. Hans, Ashar - I think this is the direction the group needs to move toward, not this round robin fussing over what bits of "stuff" to get rid of every time the group reaches it's limit. There have been a couple of suggestions of how the group can manage this but it doesn't appear as though there has actually been any movement in getting there. Perhaps IO groups needs to consider implementing some business model so that groups such as this can easily pay for more storage. respectfully, cheers, Graham ve3gtc On 2/27/2017, "Hans Summers" <hans.summers@...> wrote: >Hi Ken > >Yes agreed, attachments should go... it can safely be assumed that the >sender didn't particularly intend these to be stored for ever. BUT, >deleting attachments is not easy. I asked the groups.io owner and he told >me that we have to go through the messages and delete the attachments. That >doesn't seem very practical. I will email him again now and ask for some >tool to do that. > >73 Hans G0UPL > > > |
