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Hi guys,
A friend is using a setup that uses a KAM XL hardware modem, and while it works for other things like packet and Winlink, he has not gotten it working with APRSIS.
I’m not terribly familiar with hardware modems Though I use them for packet.
Sound handling is certainly different from soundcards - I know that much.
Anyone using APRSIS with a hardware modem?
The wild card in all of this is although the APRSIS screen shows nothing received, and won’t transmit. the APRSIS log shows activity.
- 73 -
- Michael Coslo N3LI -
Frequency Coordinator, Beaver Stadium
President, Nittany Amateur Radio Club
mjc5@...
mjcn3li@...
Mobile 814-404-3991
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The easiest way is to lock the KAM XL into KISS mode such that it is in that mode on power-up. ? Then use a Simply(KISS) type port in APRSIS32.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
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On 2/25/2024 8:19 PM, Michael Coslo wrote: Hi guys,
A friend is using a setup that uses a KAM XL hardware modem, and while it works for other things like packet and Winlink, he has not gotten it working with APRSIS.
I’m not terribly familiar with hardware modems Though I use them for packet.
Sound handling is certainly different from soundcards - I know that much.
Anyone using APRSIS with a hardware modem?
The wild card in all of this is although the APRSIS screen shows nothing received, and won’t transmit. the APRSIS log shows activity.
- 73 -
- Michael Coslo N3LI -
Frequency Coordinator, Beaver Stadium
President, Nittany Amateur Radio Club
mjc5@...
mjcn3li@...
Mobile 814-404-3991
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You could post the APRS log activity for additional help.
As Lynn states, most often it is the TNC not being in KISS mode (usually says something like leading <C0> missing. I am not sure what TNC mode the other applications require. If they don't work in KISS, you can post questions on the <OpenCmd> and <CloseCmd> commands to change the KAM XL mode when APRSIS32 starts and stops.? There are batch files out there for the KPC3.? They "may" work with the KAM as well.
On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 08:30:39 PM EST, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
The easiest way is to lock the KAM XL into KISS mode such that it is in
that mode on power-up. ? Then use a Simply(KISS) type port in APRSIS32.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/25/2024 8:19 PM, Michael Coslo wrote: > Hi guys, > > A friend is using a setup that uses a KAM XL hardware modem, and while it works for other things like packet and Winlink, he has not gotten it working with APRSIS. > > I’m not terribly familiar with hardware modems Though I use them for packet. > > Sound handling is certainly different from soundcards - I know that much. > > Anyone using APRSIS with a hardware modem? > > The wild card in all of this is although the APRSIS screen shows nothing received, and won’t transmit. the APRSIS log shows activity. > > - 73 - > - Michael Coslo N3LI - > Frequency Coordinator, Beaver Stadium > President, Nittany Amateur Radio Club > mjc5@...> mjcn3li@...> Mobile 814-404-3991 > > > > > >
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Good morning: I'm the one having trouble with APRSIS and the KAM-XL.?? This morning I used PuTTY to change the KAM-XL to KISS Mode.? The command was INTFACE KISS. I opened APRSIS and get the same result.? It says KAM-XL OK but I can't get it to transmit and it does not show anything in the monitor window.? As requested here is a copy of the log file for the KAM-XL port:
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.443 Restore Saved Enable
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.598 Starting Port(KAM XL)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 CpReader Running on COM13:9600,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13:9600,N,8,1
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13 with 4 Args
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Packet Length 64 Version 2
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:ServiceMask 0x1 Reserved1 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:MaxQueue Tx 0 Rx 0 Baud 268435456
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider SubType 1 Capabilities 0xFF
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Settable Params 127 Baud 0x10066B70 Data 0xC StopParity 0x1F05
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Current Queue Tx 0 Rx 4096
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider Specifics 0x0 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13 9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512) DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Opened COM13:9600,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Command[1]:~
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:45.854 Sent[77]:<C0 00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<03 F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:46.004 KISS:Missing 03 F0[75]:<00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:59.896 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:00.380 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:11.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 120F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:22.020 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[168]:WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>@114715h4106.31NI07847.78W&,/W2/A=1617Raspberry Pi I-Gate<0D 0A 0D 0A>WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>FN01OC<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:41.145 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[83]:N3HBE-3>APMI04,WO3T-1*,WIDE2-1/2:<0D 0A>@262121z4123.30NS07807.58W#WX3in1Mini U=13.7V.<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:46.234 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[103]:W3VO-1>APNU19,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4034.08NS07826.69W#PHG7520 W3,PAn Wopsy Mtn Altoona PA www.harc1.org<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:23.281 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[111]:NU3S-7>APK102,N3FB-2,WIDE1,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1*/2:<0D 0A>=4022.75N/08004.80W_000/000g000t032r? ?p? ?P000h94b10132KU2k<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:44.121 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[102]:NJ3T-4>APN382,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3948.42NS07910.33W#PHG7870 W2,PAn-N MT DAVIS, PA 3265'ASL<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:49:12.600 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 118F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[101]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>Wintersville, OH @ site of 443.775+ MHz WD8IIJ UHF Repeater<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.677 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[72]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4022.44N/08042.13W# 13.6V 50F <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.069 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :PARM.Vin,Rx1h,Dg1h,Eff1h,A5,O1,O2,O3,O4,I1,I2,I3,I4<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.678 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :UNIT.Volt,Pkt,Pkt,Pcnt,None,On,On,On,On,Hi,Hi,Hi,Hi<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:31.189 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:32.157 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:39.833 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[80]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:53.443 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[81]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:04.541 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[94]:KB3DXU>T1QV5X,KB3AWQ-10,WIDE1,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>'hSKl <1C>o/]County Farm Radio Room=<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:07.424 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[79]:W4VA-13>APMI06,N3KTX-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#246,178,165,057,058,32238,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.253 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 117F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.721 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[69]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#151,137,000,000,000,000,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:26.001 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[120]:KA3IRJ>4P5S6U,K3DNA,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`hF&l <1C>-/`146.655MHz T107 -060 Ham Radio Test Every 3rd SAT.? ? KA3IRJ_%<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Thank you. Camine, K3CWP
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It appears that it's not in KISS mode. I believe it takes INTFACE KISS followed by RESET on my KPC-9612+ in order to put it in KISS mode.
73, Lee K5DAT
Good morning:
I'm the one having trouble with APRSIS and the KAM-XL.??
This morning I used PuTTY to change the KAM-XL to KISS Mode.? The command was INTFACE KISS.
I opened APRSIS and get the same result.? It says KAM-XL OK but I can't get it to transmit and it does not show anything in the monitor window.? As requested here is a copy of the log file for the KAM-XL port:
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.443 Restore Saved Enable
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.598 Starting Port(KAM XL)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 CpReader Running on COM13:9600,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13:9600,N,8,1
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13 with 4 Args
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Packet Length 64 Version 2
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:ServiceMask 0x1 Reserved1 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:MaxQueue Tx 0 Rx 0 Baud 268435456
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider SubType 1 Capabilities 0xFF
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Settable Params 127 Baud 0x10066B70 Data 0xC StopParity 0x1F05
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Current Queue Tx 0 Rx 4096
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider Specifics 0x0 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13 9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512) DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Opened COM13:9600,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Command[1]:~
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:45.854 Sent[77]:<C0 00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<03 F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:46.004 KISS:Missing 03 F0[75]:<00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:59.896 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:00.380 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:11.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 120F Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:22.020 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[168]:WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>@114715h4106.31NI07847.78W&,/W2/A=1617Raspberry Pi I-Gate<0D 0A 0D 0A>WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>FN01OC<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:41.145 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[83]:N3HBE-3>APMI04,WO3T-1*,WIDE2-1/2:<0D 0A>@262121z4123.30NS07807.58W#WX3in1Mini U=13.7V.<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:46.234 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[103]:W3VO-1>APNU19,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4034.08NS07826.69W#PHG7520 W3,PAn Wopsy Mtn Altoona PA <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:23.281 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[111]:NU3S-7>APK102,N3FB-2,WIDE1,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1*/2:<0D 0A>=4022.75N/08004.80W_000/000g000t032r? ?p? ?P000h94b10132KU2k<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:44.121 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[102]:NJ3T-4>APN382,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3948.42NS07910.33W#PHG7870 W2,PAn-N MT DAVIS, PA 3265'ASL<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:49:12.600 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 118F Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[101]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>Wintersville, OH @ site of 443.775+ MHz WD8IIJ UHF Repeater<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.677 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[72]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4022.44N/08042.13W# 13.6V 50F <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.069 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :PARM.Vin,Rx1h,Dg1h,Eff1h,A5,O1,O2,O3,O4,I1,I2,I3,I4<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.678 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :UNIT.Volt,Pkt,Pkt,Pcnt,None,On,On,On,On,Hi,Hi,Hi,Hi<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:31.189 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:32.157 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:39.833 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[80]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:53.443 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[81]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:04.541 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[94]:KB3DXU>T1QV5X,KB3AWQ-10,WIDE1,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>'hSKl <1C>o/]County Farm Radio Room=<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:07.424 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[79]:W4VA-13>APMI06,N3KTX-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#246,178,165,057,058,32238,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.253 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 117F Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.721 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[69]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#151,137,000,000,000,000,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:26.001 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[120]:KA3IRJ>4P5S6U,K3DNA,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`hF&l <1C>-/`146.655MHz T107 -060 Ham Radio Test Every 3rd SAT.? ? KA3IRJ_%<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Thank you.
Camine, K3CWP
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Looks like you are being taken care of Carmine, so I’ll bow out of this. Thanks for helping him everyone.
- 73 -
- Michael Coslo N3LI -
Frequency Coordinator, Beaver Stadium
President, Nittany Amateur Radio Club
mjc5@...
mjcn3li@...
Mobile 814-404-3991
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On Feb 26, 2024, at 6:52?AM, Carmine Prestia <carmine.prestia@...> wrote:
Good morning:
I'm the one having trouble with APRSIS and the KAM-XL.
This morning I used PuTTY to change the KAM-XL to KISS Mode. The command was INTFACE KISS.
I opened APRSIS and get the same result. It says KAM-XL OK but I can't get it to transmit and it does not show anything in the monitor window. As requested here is a copy of the log file for the KAM-XL port:
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.443 Restore Saved Enable
WinMain:2024-02-26T11:46:44.598 Starting Port(KAM XL)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 CpReader Running on COM13:9600,N,8,1 (1 OpenCmds, 1 CloseCmds)
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13:9600,N,8,1
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.599 Opening COM13 with 4 Args
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Packet Length 64 Version 2
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:ServiceMask 0x1 Reserved1 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:MaxQueue Tx 0 Rx 0 Baud 268435456
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider SubType 1 Capabilities 0xFF
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Settable Params 127 Baud 0x10066B70 Data 0xC StopParity 0x1F05
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Current Queue Tx 0 Rx 4096
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.605 COM13:Provider Specifics 0x0 0x0
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13 9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512) DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Opened COM13:9600,N,8,1, Flushing 0 in TransmitQueue, Sending 1 OpenCmds
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 Command[1]:~
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:45.854 Sent[77]:<C0 00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<03 F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:46.004 KISS:Missing 03 F0[75]:<00 82 A0 AE AE>bb<E0 96>f<86 AE A0>@b<AE 92 88 8A>b@b<AE 92 88 8A>d@c<F0>@114645h4047.41N/07750.46WlAPRS-IS for Win32<C0>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:59.896 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:00.380 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[55]:N3FYI-5>TP3,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>The BuckHut WX<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:11.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 120F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:22.020 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[168]:WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>@114715h4106.31NI07847.78W&,/W2/A=1617Raspberry Pi I-Gate<0D 0A 0D 0A>WA3UFN-1>APJYC1,N3HBE-3,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>FN01OC<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:41.145 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[83]:N3HBE-3>APMI04,WO3T-1*,WIDE2-1/2:<0D 0A>@262121z4123.30NS07807.58W#WX3in1Mini U=13.7V.<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:47:46.234 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[103]:W3VO-1>APNU19,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4034.08NS07826.69W#PHG7520 W3,PAn Wopsy Mtn Altoona PA www.harc1.org<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:23.281 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[111]:NU3S-7>APK102,N3FB-2,WIDE1,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1*/2:<0D 0A>=4022.75N/08004.80W_000/000g000t032r p P000h94b10132KU2k<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:48:44.121 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[102]:NJ3T-4>APN382,K3ARL-6,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3948.42NS07910.33W#PHG7870 W2,PAn-N MT DAVIS, PA 3265'ASL<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:49:12.600 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 118F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.225 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[101]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>>Wintersville, OH @ site of 443.775+ MHz WD8IIJ UHF Repeater<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:00.677 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[72]:N8GD-2>APOT21,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!4022.44N/08042.13W# 13.6V 50F <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.069 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :PARM.Vin,Rx1h,Dg1h,Eff1h,A5,O1,O2,O3,O4,I1,I2,I3,I4<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:18.678 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[98]:N3IVK-11>APMI06,WO3T-1,WIDE1*/2:<0D 0A>:N3IVK-11 :UNIT.Volt,Pkt,Pkt,Pcnt,None,On,On,On,On,Hi,Hi,Hi,Hi<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:31.189 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:32.157 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[95]:KD9EJE-9>TPRW1V,NJ3T-4,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`kX*r"hk/`"9=}52.525mhz, 29.600mhz, or YSF 43844_1<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:39.833 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[80]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:50:53.443 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[81]:WO3T-1>APNU3B/2:<0D 0A>!4029.80NS07807.92W#PHG5730/W3,PAn-n Loop Tower Tussy Mtn PA <0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:04.541 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[94]:KB3DXU>T1QV5X,KB3AWQ-10,WIDE1,N3TJJ-13,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>'hSKl <1C>o/]County Farm Radio Room=<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:07.424 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[79]:W4VA-13>APMI06,N3KTX-4,W3YA-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#246,178,165,057,058,32238,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.253 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[87]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>!3955.03N/07817.72W# 13.7V 117F www.bcars.org Mattie<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:18.721 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[69]:K3NQT-3>APOT30,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>T#151,137,000,000,000,000,00000000<0D 0A>
Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:51:26.001 KISS:Missing 0, no C0[120]:KA3IRJ>4P5S6U,K3DNA,WIDE1,WO3T-1,WIDE2*/2:<0D 0A>`hF&l <1C>-/`146.655MHz T107 -060 Ham Radio Test Every 3rd SAT. KA3IRJ_%<0D 0A 0D 0A>
Thank you.
Camine, K3CWP
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I got my old kam to work in the simply kiss mode, cant get it out of the mode anymore but it works for packet,
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I agree the TNC is not going into KISS mode.
I am specifically concerned about this line in this log file:
> Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13 9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512) DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
This implies a few things:
1. Hardware flow control is enabled using RTS/DTR - does you serial port provide hardware flow control?
? ? If not, are you shorting the pins to "fake" hardware flow control
? ? KISS mode pretty much requires hardware flow control on hardware TNCs because the speed of the attached device vs. 'on air' device is almost always way different.
? ? The TNC and computer need some sort of control to ensure the buffers don't overrun.? In APRS, the packets are typically small, but it still becomes an issue.
2. Not sure what the OutXon(2048) and InXoff(512) mean.? Both are > 255 so more than 1 byte?
? ? In my experience, software flow control (XON and XOFF) should be disabled.?
? ? Control bytes may be anywhere inside the packet and cause misunderstood flow commands.
? ? Hardware flow control is preferred.? Faking out the hardware flow (short DTR to RTS)?is common - again, APRS packets are usually short and don't have buffer problems.? ? ??
I know on this group use PuTTY for interfacing with serial devices.?
As far as I know, there is no Macro capability within PuTTY.? Macros can be very handy to "automatically" pass parameters to the serial device.
With an application like Tera Term Pro you can use a macro to pass each required setting through a macro.? In many cases, you can wait for a proper response such that you know the command was accepted.
The KISS exit common and pretty common (192, 255, 192) .
The Tera Term Pro macro would be a line of just?
? ? ?sendln 192 255 192
To enter KISS mode, the lines (2 required)
; send interface command to set KISS mode
? ? ?sendln 'INTFACE KISS'
; delay 50 ms (may not be required, but helps on some setups.??
? ? ?mpause 50
; send RESET? typically needs to be sent with 500 ms of the INTFACE (at least on my KPC3 that was true)
? ? ?sendln 'RESET'
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Rob Giuliano
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Rob, et al.:
1. Hardware flow control is enabled using RTS/DTR - does you serial port provide hardware flow control?
? ? If not, are you shorting the pins to "fake" hardware flow control
? ? KISS mode pretty much requires hardware flow control on hardware TNCs because the speed of the attached device vs. 'on air' device is almost always way different.
? ? The TNC and computer need some sort of control to ensure the buffers don't overrun.? In APRS, the packets are typically small, but it still becomes an issue.
Flow control on the serial port, either the native serial port or the USB to FTDI adapter is set to 'None'.
I'm not shorting any pins.? No physical changes have been made to either cables or ports.
The KISS exit common and pretty common (192, 255, 192) .
The Tera Term Pro macro would be a line of just?
? ? ?sendln 192 255 192
To enter KISS mode, the lines (2 required)
; send interface command to set KISS mode
? ? ?sendln 'INTFACE KISS'
; delay 50 ms (may not be required, but helps on some setups.??
? ? ?mpause 50
; send RESET? typically needs to be sent with 500 ms of the INTFACE (at least on my KPC3 that was true)
? ? ?sendln 'RESET'
I did try the INTFACE KISS command but not the RESET.? I'll have to try that and see what happens.
Additionally, I installed PinPoint APRS and tried it.? I get the same behavior except that PinPoint provides a Communications Monitor Window where I can see the raw traffic from the TNC but still nothing appears on the map.
Thanks, I'll try the KISS change again.
Carmine, K3CWP
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Rob, et al.:
I did try the INTFACE KISS command but not the RESET.? I'll have to try that and see what happens.
Using PuTTY I opened the KAM-XL and sent INTFACE KISS, then RESET.? The immediate result is that the messages have nonsense characters in them when watching the raw traffic.
I started APRSIS and it appears to be working.? Not only is traffic appearing in the monitor window but things are appearing on the map.? It still reports KAM-XL OK.? I also backed out and tried Winlink Express and it worked.
Now, How do I get out of KISS if I want to do that?? Or better yet, how do I send commands to put the KAM in KISS when starting APRSIS and out of KISS when closing APRSIS?? I'm not sure I've ever seen how to do that.
Thank you.
Carmine, K3CWP
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Carmine try Control-C 3 times and see what happens.
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On 2024-02-26 20:35, Carmine Prestia wrote:
Rob, et al.:
I did try the INTFACE KISS command but not the RESET.? I'll have to try that and see what happens.
Using PuTTY I opened the KAM-XL and sent INTFACE KISS, then RESET.? The immediate result is that the messages have nonsense characters in them when watching the raw traffic.
I started APRSIS and it appears to be working.? Not only is traffic appearing in the monitor window but things are appearing on the map.? It still reports KAM-XL OK.? I also backed out and tried Winlink Express and it worked.
Now, How do I get out of KISS if I want to do that?? Or better yet, how do I send commands to put the KAM in KISS when starting APRSIS and out of KISS when closing APRSIS?? I'm not sure I've ever seen how to do that.
Thank you.
Carmine, K3CWP
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? Rob Giuliano has a good eye…? your TNC is certainly using an 8-bit ASCII character set, and your terminal program may be set to some other format (Unicode?), which is selecting the 2-bit characters.? Check
your terminal emulation settings. Those 16-bit characters will not be understood by a machine looking for 8 bits and the start/stop/parity bits.
?
??????? Best regards.? ???de N6UOW
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On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 12:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [APRSISCE] APRS with KAMXL
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I agree the TNC is not going into KISS mode.
I am specifically concerned about this line in this log file:
> Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13 9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512) DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
This implies a few things:
1. Hardware flow control is enabled using RTS/DTR - does you serial port provide hardware flow control?
? ? If not, are you shorting the pins to "fake" hardware flow control
? ? KISS mode pretty much requires hardware flow control on hardware TNCs because the speed of the attached device vs. 'on air' device is almost always way different.
? ? The TNC and computer need some sort of control to ensure the buffers don't overrun.? In APRS, the packets are typically small, but it still becomes an issue.
2. Not sure what the OutXon(2048) and InXoff(512) mean.? Both are > 255 so more than 1 byte?
? ? In my experience, software flow control (XON and XOFF) should be disabled.?
? ? Control bytes may be anywhere inside the packet and cause misunderstood flow commands.
? ? Hardware flow control is preferred.? Faking out the hardware flow (short DTR to RTS)?is common - again, APRS packets are usually short and don't have buffer problems.? ? ??
I know on this group use PuTTY for interfacing with serial devices.?
As far as I know, there is no Macro capability within PuTTY.? Macros can be very handy to "automatically" pass parameters to the serial device.
With an application like Tera Term Pro you can use a macro to pass each required setting through a macro.? In many cases, you can wait for a proper response such that you know the command was accepted.
The KISS exit common and pretty common (192, 255, 192) .
The Tera Term Pro macro would be a line of just?
? ? ?sendln 192 255 192
To enter KISS mode, the lines (2 required)
; send interface command to set KISS mode
? ? ?sendln 'INTFACE KISS'
; delay 50 ms (may not be required, but helps on some setups.??
? ? ?mpause 50
; send RESET? typically needs to be sent with 500 ms of the INTFACE (at least on my KPC3 that was true)
? ? ?sendln 'RESET'
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Rob Giuliano
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In KISS mode, the APRS packet headers are bit-shifted to the left
by 1 resulting in unreadable characters in a terminal view.? The
APRS packet payloads are typically humanly readable however.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 2/27/2024 12:39 PM, David Harris via
groups.io wrote:
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? Rob
Giuliano has a good eye…? your TNC is certainly using an
8-bit ASCII character set, and your terminal program may be
set to some other format (Unicode?), which is selecting the
2-bit characters.? Check your terminal emulation settings.
Those 16-bit characters will not be understood by a machine
looking for 8 bits and the start/stop/parity bits.
?
??????? Best
regards.? ???de N6UOW
?
?
I agree the TNC is not going into KISS mode.
I am specifically concerned about this line in this log file:
> Port(KAM XL):2024-02-26T11:46:44.606 CpOpen:Port COM13
9600,N,8,1 !CTSFlow !DSRFlow OutXon(2048) InXoff(512)
DTR_ENABLE !DSRSense RTS_ENABLE
This implies a few things:
1. Hardware flow control is enabled using RTS/DTR - does you
serial port provide hardware flow control?
? ? If not, are you shorting the pins to "fake" hardware flow
control
? ? KISS mode pretty much requires hardware flow control on
hardware TNCs because the speed of the attached device vs. 'on
air' device is almost always way different.
? ? The TNC and computer need some sort of control to ensure
the buffers don't overrun.? In APRS, the packets are typically
small, but it still becomes an issue.
2. Not sure what the OutXon(2048) and InXoff(512) mean.? Both
are > 255 so more than 1 byte?
? ? In my experience, software flow control (XON and XOFF)
should be disabled.?
? ? Control bytes may be anywhere inside the packet and cause
misunderstood flow commands.
? ? Hardware flow control is preferred.? Faking out the
hardware flow (short DTR to RTS)?is common - again, APRS
packets are usually short and don't have buffer problems.? ?
??
I know on this group use PuTTY for interfacing with serial
devices.?
As far as I know, there is no Macro capability within PuTTY.?
Macros can be very handy to "automatically" pass parameters to
the serial device.
With an application like Tera Term Pro you can use a macro to
pass each required setting through a macro.? In many cases,
you can wait for a proper response such that you know the
command was accepted.
The KISS exit common and pretty common (192, 255, 192) .
The Tera Term Pro macro would be a line of just?
? ? ?sendln 192 255 192
To enter KISS mode, the lines (2 required)
; send interface command to set KISS mode
? ? ?sendln 'INTFACE KISS'
; delay 50 ms (may not be required, but helps on some
setups.??
? ? ?mpause 50
; send RESET? typically needs to be sent with 500 ms of the
INTFACE (at least on my KPC3 that was true)
? ? ?sendln 'RESET'
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Rob Giuliano
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On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 08:35 PM, Carmine Prestia wrote:
Now, How do I get out of KISS if I want to do that?? Or better yet, how do I send commands to put the KAM in KISS when starting APRSIS and out of KISS when closing APRSIS?? I'm not sure I've ever seen how to do that.
This requires you to edit the APRSIS32.XML file by hand (text editor). You will need to change the lines from the default Simply(KISS) values of:
? ? ?<OpenCmd>~!!0</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??<!— This is a simple NOOP (No Operation) — >
? ? ?<CloseCmd>~!!0</CloseCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <!— This is a simple NOOP (No Operation) — >to
<OpenCmd>INTFACE KISS~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??<!— Transmit "INTFACE KISS <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<OpenCmd>RESET~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<!— Transmit "RESET <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<CloseCmd>^192^255^192~!cmd:!1</CloseCmd>
First 2 lines (of the "to" statements) will transmit the commands to place the KAMXL into KISS mode when APRS opens - OR, the port is reset.
The last line will transmit the 192, 255, 192 sequence needed to exit KISS mode when APRSIS32 closes.
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Robert:
I will try that.? Thank you!
Carmine, K3CWP
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Coming into this discussion late, but I’ll add my experience. I set up my KPC-3 (not +) with APRSIS and could not get KPC and APRSIS to talk. To make a long story short, I had the KPC already in KISS mode before I turned on APRSIS. When APRSIS came up, it would trigger the KPC to go into KISS mode, but instead it was turning off KISS mode. I then learned to put the KPC into simply KISS and it would ignore the command to switch on or off KISS; it just always stayed in KISS.?
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Rob:
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<OpenCmd>INTFACE KISS~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??<!— Transmit "INTFACE KISS <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<OpenCmd>RESET~!!1</OpenCmd>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?<!— Transmit "RESET <cr>", no Wait for response", 1 second max — >
<CloseCmd>^192^255^192~!cmd:!1</CloseCmd>
I opened the APRSIS32.XML file in Notepad and made those changes as above after eliminating the other Open and Close commands. I put a blank line before and after these commands for clarity. This was in the section starting with:
<!--RFPort[1]-->
<RFPort Name="KAM XL">
When I started APRSIS2 it acted the same as before.? However there was an error message behind the APRSIS32 screen that read:
Primary Configuration Error, Recovered From - Safe
I'm assuming that if APRSIS32 discovers an error it reverts to the safe file in the directory and overwrites APRSIS32.XML with the safe file.
Going back into APRSIS32.XML the new commands were gone, hence my above assumption.
I noted that the section I was editing also has a third line at the opening that reads:
<Protocol>Simply(KISS)</Protocol>
Does this need to be changed to something else or did I edit the wrong area?
Thank you.
Carmine, K3CWP
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True, but the latest request was to be able to "put" the KAM XL into KISS mode and exit KISS mode when APRSIS32 starts and stops.
To accomplish this option you need to choose between:
1. Using <OpenCmd> and <CloseCmd> commands in the APRSIS32.XML file?
? ? These commands are specific to the hardware TNC in use.
? ? There are a few examples on the WIKI, but Lynn cannot cover all makes and models of hardware TNCs that have exited.
2. Setup a script file that will
? ? a) Properly configure the serial interface to the hardware
? ? b) Send the proper commands over THAT serial port to ENABLE KISS mode on the specific hardware TNC
? ? c) Use a Simply(KISS) port as the port type in APRSIS32?
? ? d)??Send the proper commands over THAT serial port to DISABLE KISS mode on the specific hardware TNC
Number 2 seems easier in Linux in my opinion, because the COMM port is just a file in /dev.
It is still "fairly easy" in WIndows with the enhanced scripting of PowerShell (not old command line).
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Missed this originally.? Viewing online in 开云体育 only showed "Rob," then <show quoted>.
I don't think the Simply(KISS) inside the XML is the problem.? The protocol will still be KISS, but after the TNC is initialized.
Lynn can verify.
I believe the issues is that??groups.io web formatting and "Copy/Paste" action changed the "dashes" in my comments to a different symbol.
The text between <!-- and --> are comments and need to be formatted with the exactly characters as shown.
You could eliminate them (best option) or put them on their own line and change the characters.?
BTW, you are editing the XML after you close the program?? Pretty sure you are since the parsing failed.
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Originally posted in 2012 but I believe they still work in Windows 10 & 11. There are some scripts available via the URL below that were converted to Windows executables. They can take most Kantronics TNC's in and out of KISS mode. If you can get APRSIS32 to do it via the XML file, that's probably handier, but I thought I'd pass on the info in case it can be useful.
Sometimes I just need to take a TNC in or out of KISS mode - not necessarily related to the startup of an application, and these can be handy for that also.
73, Lee K5DAT
Missed this originally.? Viewing online in 开云体育 only showed "Rob," then <show quoted>.
I don't think the Simply(KISS) inside the XML is the problem.? The protocol will still be KISS, but after the TNC is initialized.
Lynn can verify.
I believe the issues is that?? web formatting and "Copy/Paste" action changed the "dashes" in my comments to a different symbol.
The text between <!-- and --> are comments and need to be formatted with the exactly characters as shown.
You could eliminate them (best option) or put them on their own line and change the characters.?
BTW, you are editing the XML after you close the program?? Pretty sure you are since the parsing failed.
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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David Harris