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"They" follows, ?and is in reference to the "fellowship". "We", follows, ?and is in reference to "membership" So, they are people of the fellowship. We are members. So, we having membership in the

Just as Pogo said once, but a tad differently for our AAHL Group here: "We have met the enemy, and he is NOT us." Best to all who share here, Rick T, currently a GSR for my home group...it's a blast

Thankfully the AA preamble is not part of our program and was written in 1947 to tell people what AA was and wasn’t. It was in informal introduction that’s all. It wasn’t even written by AA. It

Hi Tom. As the word ‘will’ has a the adjective ‘our’ before it , ?that makes it plural. Therefore it is grammatically correct.

Interesting that the first paragraph is 3rd person omniscient, while the second paragraph is the 1st person "we" (speaking as a group).? I too am curious why the writer(s) of the preamble went this

Preamble history The Preamble first appeared in the Grapevine in June 1947, and was written by Tom Yutzy., the Grapevine editor at that time. The aim was to offer a concise definition of A.A. Shortly

For what it's worth - and I am no grammarian, by any means, so this is just the way I remember the rules from nearly 50 years ago. "Alcoholics Anonymous is a *fellowship of people* who share *their*

Thom, ?I cant agree with you more. I cant believe a conference voted to change anything about "modem to modem". Many of you have factually been helping each other and exchanging info, "modem to

There is a grammatical error in Step Three. The word "will" should be plural like "lives" right after it. I don't think BW was referring to collective will. I note in "Writing the Big Book," p. 458,

The AA preamble shifts from ‘they’ in the first reference to ‘we’ in the latter, leaving a reader to wonder. I had hoped, when the fellowship took on the change from ‘men and women’ to

There are now two to three subjects being talked about. So first off, when a new EDITION of 'Alcoholics Anonymous' is published, the OLD forewords, and need to remain ?"as is", meaning the Forewords

Quoting from p. 93 of *Advisory Actions of the General Service Conference of Alcoholics Anonymous 1951-2022* ([M-39](https://www.aa.org/m-39-advisory-actions)), under the section "Advisory Actions

People never bring up what Bill wrote in the “We Are Now“ Chapters in the 1st Editions about Cleveland… You have to take that in to Acct when making a supposition about the early group from

Thurs May 11th 1939

As others have previously mentioned, there are a few points to consider. 1. The Forward to 2nd edition was definitely frozen, as it was written by Bill. (The Forward to 4th edition was changed because

Do we know if there was a certain dictionary that Bill may have used while he was writing the big book?? I have never heard anyone mention any specific dictionary, but the idea was brought up in

The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group. * /The Oxford Group/The Eight Pointso of the Oxford Group.pdf (

A Tale that needs to be told. Best Regards, Barry Murtaugh 773.851.2100

I have some messages (known as "threads" back in the FIDOnet (BBS) and Usenet days) between Penny and myself. Many with Rich, too. I hung out on Recovery BBS a lot even though my home BBS was called