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Japanese CW transceiver and what is ICOM X60?
Dear A1Club,
I'm relative new ham. Maybe some experienced hams have recommendation? Started with Yaesu FT 890 and now on ICOM 7300. What is in your experience a good upgrade when considering CW?? For sure everybody has personal preference. Here is what I like for CW: - I love good CW filters (like 300Hz) and I'm missing the Audio Peaking Filter from Yaesu when switching to ICOM that just has it in higher class. - don't like relay clicks (particular on full QSK) or loud fan noise (IC 7300 is very noisy, but Yaesu seems to be not better. Any experience?). - ICOM does not support IAMBIC A and the CW settings are limited (e.g. no Ultimatic). As I started with IAMBIC A I had to relearn on IAMBIC B what is a less optimal keying mode IMHO. - CW decoder is not needed. It's nice to have, but my own copy gets bad if I look at screen of a decoder. - Not CW related: ? - love Icom waterfall display and usability. Not need a auto "CW zero beat" as waterfall is good enough. ? - don't need much power, most the time I'm QRP and even for rare DX not going 50W. For bad band condition 30W is my sweet spot. ? - working mostly HF. Sadly 2m / 70cm missing on most modern (CW capable) transceivers? ? - love Japanese products for their quality ? - modes: I'm 100% CW in for active QSO. Only for testing Antenna or Homebrew use digi like WSPR or FT8. No SSB. On Hamvention ICOM announced a "X60 Project". Any ideas what this could be? Some component indicate it could be high class transceiver (200w) what would be outside of my (money and power) budget :-) . Any rumors in Japan? What is your preferred CW transceiver and why do you love it? BEST 73 DE DJ1TF / JJ1QPB - Thomas |
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThomas san How about IC-705? It covers 1.8-430MHz, Icom Band Scope. No fan noise at all. T/R switching noise is low. 73 Atsu JE1TRV/JS2AHG |
Thomas-san,
So far I haven't heard any INFO of ICOM X60 here in JA. :( I'm the one who has switched from ICOM IC-7300 to YAESU FTDX101MP. The reasons were 200W and RX sound of 101. I feel I cannot regularly use the FIL3(250Hz IF filter) of 7300 because of its digital ringing. The 101's 300Hz R.FIL(Roofing Filter) is less ringing and APF is very natural but super effective! But as for the NR(Noise Reduction), the 7300 is less effective but more natural than 101. I set 101's NR as level 7 out of 15 because the much NR affects more to the CW reception. There are many complains and maybe some bugs on FTDX101MP, I know. But as far as I use it for CW at 99%, it's a good radio with two equivariant receivers. (sometimes the sub receiver is inferior to the main receiver) I didn't imagine I would need a dual receiver radio. But it works very good and convenient in many cases such as watching other bands while CQ'ing, easy chasing DX on split and so on. HPE this INFO helps you a bit. // HIRO, JJ1FXF |
Hi Thomas
With all your wishes it sounds like one of the newer Yaesu rigs is what you're looking for when it comes to CW. I used to have a FTDX101D. Great rig and all the CW-settings were in a seperate menu. while all the other modes were crammed in one page. I think this is a hint what group of users the designers made it for :-) I hated the clicking of the relays even with semi break-in, but also realised I didn't really use the bandscopes, so I bought (downgraded?) an Elecraft K3s which is also a fantastic CW-rig, but uses pin-diodes, so it's quiet. Side-effect is also that it is less power hungry 1A rec /22A TX, versus? 4A rec /24A TX. The X60 is suggested to be a follow-up of the IC7851, which here in EU is close to €10000, so that would not make it a budget-rig. But if ICOM is smart, they do the same thing as Yaesu did with the FTDX101 line, develop less-specced spin-offs as Yaesu did with the FTDX10 and FT710. 73, Martin PE1EEC/PE6X |
Hi Thomas, I'm using IC-7300/IC-705/Xiegu G90s and Flex-6600, here are my experiences on them. IC-7300 and IC-705 seem to be the same on CW filters, that means, they are all digital filters and more noise will be heard when you use narrow filters such as FIL3. High WpM CW signals can't be heard clearly compared with wide filters(FIL1,1.2 kHz) But IC-705 seem better than IC-7300 although it is not 100W but 10W, when you set full QSK, it is quiet, low noise on relay clicks. I usually POTA with a small PA about 25W, a quite portable suite! Before I buy IC-705, I take Xiegu G90s for POTA, I like it with its power and volume, small portable station with 20W. But for CW, it is not as usual as other equipment, the definition of its CW port is different so you need an adapter for its strange definition... For contests, I use my FLEX-6600 placed in my base. 400Hz filter with weak signals is too comfortable! You can hear clearly with weak signals. But, it is too expensive :-( but truly a great radio! Hope this can help you and sorry for my bad English DE BH6BEZ Izumi aka BG6HNY Vy 88 2024Äê5ÔÂ31ÈÕ(½ð) 21:30 Thomas Fritzsche via <tf=[email protected]>: Dear A1Club, |
IZUMI-chan,
Try to change the CW pitch, maybe DOWN like 500Hz if you feel FIL3 doesn't present clear CW sound to your ears. Your ears have characteristics toward the balance of signal and background noise. Changing the CW pitch also changes the tone of background noise. I like around 520Hz pitch which presents me a better balance of signal and noise. 88, // HIRO, JJ1FXF |
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