Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Hello, there were no instructions or directions in the kit.
4 ?pieces of aluminum that create a boxed border around the wall opening.
1 piece of aluminum that is the “mounting bracket that would be screwed to the exterior of the air conditioner and then the exterior of the camper wall.
‘A drip pan.
A plastic wind deflector.
1 tube of sealant.
A black fabric AC cover for the exterior.
4 “snap buttons”
nothing more.
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I thinks I’ll cut the opening about 3” down from the where the wall hinges .
that would still keep plenty of wall above the wheel well.?
im also thinking of reinforcing the wall with aluminum angle on the interior on each side of the opening.
r.y.
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Hi Gang:
I just picked
up a dehumidifier at Habitat. It is real small, about the side
of a portable heater. No compressor, it uses peltier junction to
collect moisture, so it should be quiet. It is suggested for
bedrooms, etc, so it should keep our campers dry. You do have to
dump the reservoir and it only holds 50cl?
I'll let you
know how it works.
Carl.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Were you going to install it in the traditional way, or down lower?? Did you get install instructions with the kit?
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On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 08:23 AM, Ramon Yanez wrote:
I just talked to Kevin at ALiner.
He says the wall rear of the entry door, inside the cabinet is the traditional location for the A/C install.?
He said any other location would be a special custom install request by a customer on a new build.?
I told him that I had purchased the “kit”.?
He didn’t have any additional advise.
He was very pleasant about what he could share.
RY
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
I just talked to Kevin at ALiner.
He says the wall rear of the entry door, inside the cabinet is the traditional location for the A/C install.?
He said any other location would be a special custom install request by a customer on a new build.?
I told him that I had purchased the “kit”.?
He didn’t have any additional advise.
He was very pleasant about what he could share.
RY
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
I’ll call them. Good to get their input.?
Thanks for offering the advise.
RY
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Wow!
The wall is probably as solid as a rock! This gives me ideas on the portable potty, too! Looks like you had to fabricate items from scratch, I can do that… I think!
Thanks! RY.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Hi Gang:
I did make
one change on our LG6000 AC. In the dehumidify mode the
compressor and the fan cycle on and off. The fan cycling would
wake up up, so I rewired the fan so I could switch it to "ON"
continuously. Now when the compressor? cycles, (and it does
often for a few minutes) we don't notice it.
Also it would
have been much easier to add the fan switch before the unit was
in the wall. I had to add an access panel on the top of the
outside.
Carl.
On 5/2/2025 9:29 AM, Don DeRyke via
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I installed the LG6000.? It does not have a drain.? All off the
advertisement photos show a drain hole.? I called support and was
told it was fine, for the reasons you mentioned.? It has a
"slinger" to splash the water on the coils.? That said, I don't
think anyone I have checked with has one without a drain hole.?
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 11:00 PM, Carl via groups.io
Hi
Gang:
Please
let us know of the answers you get from technical
support.
I
put our replacement AC in the same hole as the old AC.
My goals were 1) a quieter unit, 2) add braces to the
wall that was starting to lean out and prevent the
roof from closing. An added benefit is the
dehumidifier setting on the AC. In the pictures of my
rework you can see the diagonal braces I added to pull
the roof back in line. Not easy to see are the braces
under the frame the the diagonals depend on.
Dripping
condensation shouldn't be a problem, window AC units
are designed to drip out side, not inside your house.
Our new AC doesn't even have a drip hole, the
condensation is used to cool the hot coils.
You're
welcomed to study the photo from our campers and ask
questions. I've done a lot of work to keep our 2000
unit going.
Carl.
PS:
the photos:
/g/A-frameCamperForum/photo/124085/1485264?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C20%2C0
On 5/1/2025 9:05
PM, Steve T via groups.io wrote:
If I were you I'd call aliner technical support and
ask them how they recommend installing an air
conditioner.? If you install it above the wheel well,
you risk removing so much wall material it could make
the wall too weak.? If you put the AC on top if the
wheel well, it may need additional bracing to prevent
crushing the wheel well liner.? ACs tend to collect
water, and you put a pan underneath them to avoid
leaking water from rotting the floor, and i dont know
how youd do that above a wheel well. I've never heard of
someone in this group installing an ac above a wheel
well, so getting input from aliner could save you from
having problems.
--
Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida
2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
I installed the LG6000.? It does not have a drain.? All off the advertisement photos show a drain hole.? I called support and was told it was fine, for the reasons you mentioned.? It has a "slinger" to splash the water on the coils.? That said, I don't think anyone I have checked with has one without a drain hole.?
On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 11:00 PM, Carl via groups.io <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hi Gang:
Please let us
know of the answers you get from technical support.
I put our
replacement AC in the same hole as the old AC. My goals were 1)
a quieter unit, 2) add braces to the wall that was starting to
lean out and prevent the roof from closing. An added benefit is
the dehumidifier setting on the AC. In the pictures of my rework
you can see the diagonal braces I added to pull the roof back in
line. Not easy to see are the braces under the frame the the
diagonals depend on.
Dripping
condensation shouldn't be a problem, window AC units are
designed to drip out side, not inside your house. Our new AC
doesn't even have a drip hole, the condensation is used to cool
the hot coils.
You're
welcomed to study the photo from our campers and ask questions.
I've done a lot of work to keep our 2000 unit going.
Carl.
PS: the
photos:
/g/A-frameCamperForum/photo/124085/1485264?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C20%2C0
On 5/1/2025 9:05 PM, Steve T via
groups.io wrote:
If I were you I'd call aliner technical support and ask them
how they recommend installing an air conditioner.? If you
install it above the wheel well, you risk removing so much wall
material it could make the wall too weak.? If you put the AC on
top if the wheel well, it may need additional bracing to prevent
crushing the wheel well liner.? ACs tend to collect water, and
you put a pan underneath them to avoid leaking water from
rotting the floor, and i dont know how youd do that above a
wheel well. I've never heard of someone in this group installing
an ac above a wheel well, so getting input from aliner could
save you from having problems.
--
Don DeRyke
Sunrise, Florida
2009 Classic, 2020 Ford Escape, 2.0 liter EcoBoost, AWD.?
Previous TV 2015 Ford Escape 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Hi Gang:
Please let us
know of the answers you get from technical support.
I put our
replacement AC in the same hole as the old AC. My goals were 1)
a quieter unit, 2) add braces to the wall that was starting to
lean out and prevent the roof from closing. An added benefit is
the dehumidifier setting on the AC. In the pictures of my rework
you can see the diagonal braces I added to pull the roof back in
line. Not easy to see are the braces under the frame the the
diagonals depend on.
Dripping
condensation shouldn't be a problem, window AC units are
designed to drip out side, not inside your house. Our new AC
doesn't even have a drip hole, the condensation is used to cool
the hot coils.
You're
welcomed to study the photo from our campers and ask questions.
I've done a lot of work to keep our 2000 unit going.
Carl.
PS: the
photos:
/g/A-frameCamperForum/photo/124085/1485264?p=Created%2C%2C%2C20%2C2%2C20%2C0
On 5/1/2025 9:05 PM, Steve T via
groups.io wrote:
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If I were you I'd call aliner technical support and ask them
how they recommend installing an air conditioner.? If you
install it above the wheel well, you risk removing so much wall
material it could make the wall too weak.? If you put the AC on
top if the wheel well, it may need additional bracing to prevent
crushing the wheel well liner.? ACs tend to collect water, and
you put a pan underneath them to avoid leaking water from
rotting the floor, and i dont know how youd do that above a
wheel well. I've never heard of someone in this group installing
an ac above a wheel well, so getting input from aliner could
save you from having problems.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
If I were you I'd call aliner technical support and ask them how they recommend installing an air conditioner.? If you install it above the wheel well, you risk removing so much wall material it could make the wall too weak.? If you put the AC on top if the wheel well, it may need additional bracing to prevent crushing the wheel well liner.? ACs tend to collect water, and you put a pan underneath them to avoid leaking water from rotting the floor, and i dont know how youd do that above a wheel well. I've never heard of someone in this group installing an ac above a wheel well, so getting input from aliner could save you from having problems.
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Re: Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
Hello Ray:
I've replaced
our AC and added a skylight over the table area. I drilled the
corners from the outside and then used a fine tooth saber saw
blade. The cutting isn't hard, for us 0.5mm aluminum, Styrofoam
and 4mm plywood, an easy cut. I did re-enforced the AC opening
with aluminum.
Here are
photos of the job, that included a new cabinet under the AC:
/g/A-frameCamperForum/album?id=124085
Good luck,
Carl.
On 5/1/2025 2:17 PM, Ramon Yanez via
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2004 ALiner Expedition. Never had A/C. Going to cut the
opening over the passenger side wheel well. I’ve purchased the
“kit” from ALiner Columbia. What is the best way to cut the
wall?
Which tool (saw) is best?
Best to cut from outside?
Thanks!
? Ray Y.
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Air conditioner install - what tool to cut the opening?
2004 ALiner Expedition. Never had A/C. Going to cut the opening over the passenger side wheel well. I’ve purchased the “kit” from ALiner Columbia. What is the best way to cut the wall?
Which tool (saw) is best?
Best to cut from outside?
Thanks!
? Ray Y.
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Re: Propane CO detector recommendations
I strongly recommend a separate CO detector, mounted up high. Propane is heavier than air, while CO is lighter. There are very sensitive, battery operated CO detectors. Get one that displays the CO level. We find that the CO level gets quite high when using the stove, unless we turn on the fan and crack a window.
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Scott Ellington
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Re: Propane CO detector recommendations
The dometic lpco alarm lists for $184 on the dometic website, but is on sale for $50 on Amazon
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Re: Propane CO detector recommendations
Or install a simple switch in the black or red wire leading to your detector, so you can disable it if needed.? Be sure to turn it on whenever you're using propane.?
Dave?
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I'd also put the alarm on a separate fuse in your converter, so you can pull that fuse if need be.? Its really hard to bust those things open to disable them.
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Re: Propane CO detector recommendations
I got the Dometic (used to be Atwood) dual LPCO alarm, because it's what I had before, it works, and I didn't want to drill new holes for some other brand.
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As far as I know, they all sound the alarm at low power levels.? Also, they all sound the alarm after some number of years, so you must buy a new one.? Can't get out of that either.? So write the install date on the alarm with a sharpie, and make sure you replace it before the alarm goes off.
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I'd also put the alarm on a separate fuse in your converter, so you can pull that fuse if need be.? Its really hard to bust those things open to disable them.
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Propane CO detector recommendations
Looks like it’s time for me to replace the CO/propane detector. Any recommendations for what works best/ has the least complications. Is there one that doesn’t go off just because the battery is low?
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Re: File /2021 Aliner Owner's Manual.pdf uploaded
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On Apr 24, 2025, at 9:13?PM, Brian Hovander via groups.io <brianhovander@...> wrote:
Early on I only had a few articles written and posted them on various sites (including this one).? But then when the articles were revised, I had to remove and replace them on various sites.? Many sites were private.? For simplicity I just decided to set up one Facebook public group and only put the various article I had written on that one public site.? This simplifies making updates to these articles.
That way people can be on whatever site they enjoy and still easily access a variety of articles I have written along the way that tell of my experiences, recommendations, etc.? Someone can just go to the FB "Aframe Technical Resource Center" files and download whatever articles they so desire.? They can also find hard to access appliance manuals, etc.? I never expected it to be anything but a place to post articles.? However, a few folks do ask questions on that forum and usually get a variety of suggested solutions.
Today, virtually all the chat sites are private, so this limits access to how-to articles for those who are not a member of a site.??
P.S.? Thanks for sharing your wind latch solution.? I use it to protect the side walls from collapse before I can get the pole across the peak.? I had two events where side walls blew in with very mild winds.? But never again after adding the wind latch system you shared.
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Re: File /2021 Aliner Owner's Manual.pdf uploaded
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Some folks (including me) remove the initial set of gas springs and replace them with a better alignment to provide lift assistance when it is required with the lowest force gas springs.? The factory started installing the springs in a better manner on some Aliners starting in 2019.? The internal springs and the add-on gas springs weaken with age.? You might want to consider upgrading to the newer method.? The closer to a right angle of force application, the better the lift torque applied to the roof panels.? I use 26" springs that are 30 pounds on the rear and 40 pounds on the front.? Due to (less than optimum) installation of gas springs on the dormers in 2015 and roof panels starting in 2016 or so, the factory had to use very powerful gas springs to make up for NOT aligning the force to be more perpendicular to the panel.
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Re: File /2021 Aliner Owner's Manual.pdf uploaded
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My 2022 Aliner LXE doesn't have the gas springs installed in the location the sales brochure shows.
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Carl
Don DeRyke
Brian Hovander
patternman
