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Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ] I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.? I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.? - ?No political?
- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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Each and every member of this group got the TERMS OF USE email on Jan1. It said, in part:
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those goals, the following rules govern operation of this group:
?
* On-Topic posts only.
<snip>
If you ignored it, you can find it here:
-- Buffalo John
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The problem with just saying only post regarding a mini lathe is After you have and have ask or read itea about a mini lathes.? There nothing left to talke about.?
So group could go months or some groups years before the next post.?
?
I saw with the Old Yahoo groups. The group just stop.?
?
The Off Topic drives the group till next on Topic.??
?
So moderator has decided the direction OT to drive or Topic only with dead time.?
?
At time you Manufacturers had group and moderator was only interested in things related to product. What happened is one's the group need to answer questions moved on. I would look at history and see this and did not join.
I am a moderate on a lot larger group than this group and thriving with lot Off Topic/subject.
It only few rules?
?
A few simple rules to follow.
?
1) No political
2) No ads
3) It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl friend?
4) It is ok for any one's child/ grandchildren see it too.
?
It could use OT or OS in first part tile but after we talk about it was decided it was not need. On this group of look at my past posts I use Off subject here.?
My latest posts is on subject?
Dave?
?
?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
Each and every member of this group got the TERMS OF USE email on Jan1. It said, in part:
?
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those goals, the following rules govern operation of this group:
?
* On-Topic posts only. <snip>
?
If you ignored it, you can find it here:
?
?
--
Buffalo John
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
?
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those
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Exactly what is really needed. Common sense, reasonableness and practicality, nothing more is needed.?
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On 28 Jan 2025, at 15:43, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
? The problem with just saying only post regarding a mini lathe is After you have and have ask or read itea about a mini lathes.? There nothing left to talke about.?
So group could go months or some groups years before the next post.?
?
I saw with the Old Yahoo groups. The group just stop.?
?
The Off Topic drives the group till next on Topic.??
?
So moderator has decided the direction OT to drive or Topic only with dead time.?
?
At time you Manufacturers had group and moderator was only interested in things related to product. What happened is one's the group need to answer questions moved on. I would look at history and see this and did not join.
I am a moderate on a lot larger group than this group and thriving with lot Off Topic/subject.
It only few rules?
?
A few simple rules to follow.
?
1) No political
2) No ads
3) It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl friend?
4) It is ok for any one's child/ grandchildren see it too.
?
It could use OT or OS in first part tile but after we talk about it was decided it was not need. On this group of look at my past posts I use Off subject here.?
My latest posts is on subject?
Dave?
?
?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
Each and every member of this group got the TERMS OF USE email on Jan1. It said, in part:
?
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those goals, the following rules govern operation of this group:
?
* On-Topic posts only. <snip>
?
If you ignored it, you can find it here:
?
?
--
Buffalo John
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
?
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those
|
I think are same page?
(Common sense, reasonableness and practicality, nothing more is needed. )
This all that is need.?
?
I like have said is pass {after mini lathe setup what is next step}
?
Dave?
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All that stuff is covered in the group guidelines which I get
just about every month from a bunch of the groups that I'm in
including this one .
animal
On 1/28/25 11:05 AM, David Wiseman
wrote:
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Exactly what is really needed. Common sense, reasonableness and
practicality, nothing more is needed.?
?
The problem with just saying only
post regarding a mini lathe is After you have and have ask
or read itea about a mini lathes.? There nothing left to
talke about.?
So group could go months or some groups
years before the next post.?
?
I saw with the Old Yahoo groups. The group just stop.?
?
The Off Topic drives the group till next on Topic.??
?
So moderator has decided the direction OT to drive or
Topic only with dead time.?
?
At time you Manufacturers
had group and moderator was only interested in things
related to product. What happened is one's the group need to answer
questions moved on. I would look at history and see this
and did not join.
I am a moderate on a lot larger group than this group
and thriving with lot Off Topic/subject.
It only few rules?
?
A few simple rules to
follow.
?
1) No political
2) No ads
3) It ok with Any one's
Wife / Girl friend?
4) It is ok for any one's
child/ grandchildren see it too.
?
It could use OT or OS in first part tile but after we
talk about it was decided it was not need. On this group
of look at my past posts I use Off subject
here.?
My latest posts is on subject?
Dave?
?
?
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
Each and every member of this group got the TERMS
OF USE email on Jan1. It said, in part:
?
TERMS OF USE --
How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those goals, the following rules
govern operation of this group:
?
* On-Topic posts only. <snip>
?
If you ignored
it, you can find it here:
?
?
--
Buffalo John
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 02:03 PM, BuffaloJohn wrote:
?
TERMS OF USE -- How the 7x12 Group Operates
<snip>
To help achieve those
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Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ellis Cory via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2025 8:44 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ] I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.? I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.? - ?No political?
- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top
power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that
could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the
mill is gonna be the issue .
good luck , keep us posted
animal
On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via
groups.io wrote:
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Dave’s
real hobby is beating dead horses.?
?
Glad
to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how
to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.
?
I’m
pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side
and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I
might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill
before going too far.)
?
Tony
?
?
?
Hi guys.
Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though.
?
* I’m
not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the
title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???
?
* I am
amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others
as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable
English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand
and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second
or third language. But where part of the message shows the
writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read
through and correct any more ?
?
???????????????
Ellis
?
?
If rotary table goes a
mill it is OT.
But if goes Mini lathe
it is $&#^$
I guess it depends on
if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if
on topic or off.
If do not like what
they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC
and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to
read.??
The bottom for group
to be interesting is have something to read about and
better to comment on too.
In November of 2023 I
finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes
since 2005.
The resoan thinking a
mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to
write about here and gave everyone here some read and
write about.?
No one goes out buys a
lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it
only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost
$80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years.
The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very
often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?
So we all
here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about
or this would a very slow group
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025
at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Rotary
table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your
lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings
work).
?
Tony
?
?
?
What is next thd chuck on the mini
lathe is ot
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM,
Tony Smith wrote:
All that
blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this
thread as being off topic.
?
Two
keystrokes is still two too many for you, I
guess.
?
Tony
?
(Seriously,
no-one cares, not even you.)
?
?
The
first that only want to see mini lathes
only. I seen on some? groups it has to
what title is only.
Second
group?arsed or not wanting to make the
effort
to add
OT to help the first group.?
Now
the owner and moderators are trying to
keep group fun and interesting for all.
Then
dealing with the first group and second
group not helping.?
A owner and
moderators have hard job at times. How
mush? can you talk the subject.
Some think you only
talk about a mini lathes and the drill
chuck is off subject.??
So
soon or later you will have to go little
or more off for slow times?
Last
year this had a long topic on bikes. It
was a interesting topic to read I had
nothing to say. The important part it made
group interesting for slow time.
If
look at a few OFF topic I have post here
in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?
I Like
OT Simple hit two keys at beginning?
On
Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
Nobody
cares so long as it’s not too stupid.
?The moderators will be tired of
seeing this stupid crap shortly and
tell us to knock it off.
?
Lists
die because of no traffic or too much
stupid crap.? And this thread has
definitely hit the latter.
?
And
you still can’t be arsed to add OT to
the subject.
?
Tony
?
?
?
[Edited Message
Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and
change ]
I this some type
limit off topic it best for and
some one complain and others will
anything under sun.?
I am on some sites
that OT is ok and no one goes
overboard. They respect the few
little rules.?
- ?No
political?
- No ads
- ?It ok
with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is
ok for any one's grandchildren
see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html
codes
On Wed, Jan 22, 2025
at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
When people can’t
be arsed to even use OT, they
sure ain’t gunna use those
either.
?
This thread is
off topic, look at all the
people who could be bothered
to mark it OT.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
May have few
for one for not like OFF
TOPIC.?
AH? ?for
AROUND THE HOME?
For I am OK
with or without tags. I
enjoy read like good old
fashione Magazines?
|
??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned
theres several tubes with other folks ideas
animal
On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote:
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Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top
power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding
that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height
of the mill is gonna be the issue .
good luck , keep us posted
animal
On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via
groups.io wrote:
Dave’s
real hobby is beating dead horses.?
?
Glad
to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out
how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol.
?
I’m
pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side
and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I
might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill
before going too far.)
?
Tony
?
?
?
Hi
guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points
though.
?
* I’m
not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the
title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ???
?
* I am
amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others
as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable
English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand
and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second
or third language. But where part of the message shows the
writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read
through and correct any more ?
?
???????????????
Ellis
?
?
If rotary table goes
a mill it is OT.
But if goes Mini
lathe it is $&#^$
I guess it depends
on if you interested read a about putting on a mini
lathe if on topic or off.
If do not like what
they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC
and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing
to read.??
The bottom for group
to be interesting is have something to read about and
better to comment on too.
In November of 2023
I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini
lathes since 2005.
The resoan thinking
a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose
to write about here and gave everyone here some read and
write about.?
No one goes out buys
a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present
it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost
$80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years.
The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very
often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .?
So we all
here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk
about or this would a very slow group
On Fri, Jan 24, 2025
at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Rotary
table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or
your lack of understanding of how motor temperature
ratings work).
?
Tony
?
?
?
What is next thd chuck on the mini
lathe is ot
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM,
Tony Smith wrote:
All that
blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag
this thread as being off topic.
?
Two
keystrokes is still two too many for you, I
guess.
?
Tony
?
(Seriously,
no-one cares, not even you.)
?
?
The
first that only want to see mini lathes
only. I seen on some? groups it has to
what title is only.
Second
group?arsed or not wanting to make the
effort
to
add OT to help the first group.?
Now
the owner and moderators are trying to
keep group fun and interesting for all.
Then
dealing with the first group and second
group not helping.?
A owner and
moderators have hard job at times. How
mush? can you talk the subject.
Some think you only
talk about a mini lathes and the drill
chuck is off subject.??
So
soon or later you will have to go little
or more off for slow times?
Last
year this had a long topic on bikes. It
was a interesting topic to read I had
nothing to say. The important part it
made group interesting for slow time.
If
look at a few OFF topic I have post here
in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .?
I
Like OT Simple hit two keys at
beginning?
On
Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
Nobody
cares so long as it’s not too
stupid. ?The moderators will be
tired of seeing this stupid crap
shortly and tell us to knock it off.
?
Lists
die because of no traffic or too
much stupid crap.? And this thread
has definitely hit the latter.
?
And
you still can’t be arsed to add OT
to the subject.
?
Tony
?
?
?
[Edited Message
Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and
change ]
I this some type
limit off topic it best for and
some one complain and others
will anything under sun.?
I am on some sites
that OT is ok and no one goes
overboard. They respect the few
little rules.?
- ?No
political?
- No ads
- ?It ok
with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is
ok for any one's
grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No
html codes
On Wed, Jan 22,
2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith
wrote:
When people
can’t be arsed to even use
OT, they sure ain’t gunna
use those either.
?
This thread is
off topic, look at all the
people who could be bothered
to mark it OT.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
May have
few for one for not like
OFF TOPIC.?
AH? ?for
AROUND THE HOME?
For I am OK
with or without tags. I
enjoy read like good old
fashione Magazines?
|
Holy smokes!? Isn't that Craftsman bench quite the thing!? Yes, the mill might be a problem, but ... "mother of invention..."? My wife has this device in the kitchen that stores/hides her KitchenAide mixer.? You push a button and the mixer comes popping up/out like a jack-in-a-box, and that thing is heavy.? That thing's got me thinking...? @mike allen - thanks for posting link of YT video, and @Tony Smith please keep us up to date on your idea.
?
Thanks
?
Jeff
|
Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that. ? That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos. ? Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things. ? Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman. ? That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it). ? He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there. ? Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space. ? Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually. ? Tony ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mike allen via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT? ??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned theres several tubes with other folks ideas animal On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote: Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue . good luck , keep us posted animal On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote: Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? Tony ? ? ? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
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- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.
I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)
And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.
I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.
Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.
Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via groups.io <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:
Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that. ? That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos. ? Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things. ? Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman. ? That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it). ? He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there. ? Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space. ? Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually. ? Tony ? ? ?
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Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT ? ??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned theres several tubes with other folks ideas animal On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote: Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue . good luck , keep us posted animal On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote: Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? Tony ? ? ? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ] I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.? I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.? - ?No political?
- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.
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ralphie
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I’ll have to look it up, because I think it’s on my computer at home, but I”ve seen a system that put’s the tools on a plywood base that fits into rack shelves in your shop, and as you need them you slide them out of the rack and insert them into a slot on the workbench or onto your B&D workmate to use.?
I also have seen a variety of mobile workbench plans with similar systems to hold a table saw and planer on either side, stuff like that. Mostly woodworkeing but might be good for some machine tools as well. ? On Jan 30, 2025, at 11:01?AM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io <ckinzer@...> wrote:
I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life.
I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.)
And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw.
I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready.
Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you.
Carles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via ??< ajsmith1968@...> wrote:
Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that. ? That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos. ? Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things. ? Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman. ? That video recommended this one:?, which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it). ? He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there. ? Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space. ? Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually. ? Tony ? ? ? ? ??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned? theres several tubes with other folks ideas? animal On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote: Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .? good luck , keep us posted? animal On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via??wrote: Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? Tony ? ? ? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say?OFF TOPIC?and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators?have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put?OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ] I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.? I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.? - ?No political?
- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE?HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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Bruce Johnson
The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.
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I believe the tool rack you are referring to was in a 2007 issue of Wood Magazine.? It is now available as a downloadable plan for $15.? You can find it by Googling Wood Magazine bench-tool system plans.
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There is a good picture and dimensions on the website that gives you an idea of what it is like.? A woodworker should be able to build one from that picture, but the $15 plan should save you a lot of time.
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I built a modified version of it and it works very well for a chop saw, spindle sander, and grinding/polishing setup.
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Mike Schoeppner
Wichita KS
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If you search for "flip top workbench images" you will see quite a few examples but have to scroll down for some.
Like this:
Or this double ended one:
Or this approach:
And regarding the Sears Craftsman "Rotary Tool Bench", I don't think anybody posted photos.? Here are a couple.? You might think that the drill press can't be rotated up expecting it to hit some cross bar across the end.
But there is no cross bar.? You just remove pieces of the workbench top to rotate.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Monday, February 3, 2025 at 09:12:56 AM PST, Mike Schoeppner <ms-ss@...> wrote:
I believe the tool rack you are referring to was in a 2007 issue of Wood Magazine.? It is now available as a downloadable plan for $15.? You can find it by Googling Wood Magazine bench-tool system plans.
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There is a good picture and dimensions on the website that gives you an idea of what it is like.? A woodworker should be able to build one from that picture, but the $15 plan should save you a lot of time.
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I built a modified version of it and it works very well for a chop saw, spindle sander, and grinding/polishing setup.
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Mike Schoeppner
Wichita KS
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That Craftsman table is a bit bigger than it needs to as it has three tools, you could do two stands with two tools each for not that much more floor space. ? I was planning on making some for the sander, planer, grinder and all that.? ? Not too keen on a turntable, being round they’d tend to waste a bit of space. ? Tony ? ?
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Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT? I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life. I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.) And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw. I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready. Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you. On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via groups.io <ajsmith1968@...> wrote: Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that. ? That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos. ? Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things. ? Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman. ? That video recommended this one: , which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it). ? He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there. ? Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space. ? Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually. ? Tony ? ? ? ? ??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned
theres several tubes with other folks ideas animal On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote: Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue . good luck , keep us posted animal On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via groups.io wrote: Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? Tony ? ? ? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ??????????????? Ellis ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say OFF TOPIC and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? Tony ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? Tony ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? Tony ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Sorry used html code and change ] I this some type limit off topic it best for and some one complain and others will anything under sun.? I am on some sites that OT is ok and no one goes overboard. They respect the few little rules.? - ?No political?
- No ads
- ?It ok with Any one's Wife / Girl?
- It is ok for any one's grandchildren see it too.?
Sorry forgot No html codes On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 02:47 AM, Tony Smith wrote: When people can’t be arsed to even use OT, they sure ain’t gunna use those either. ? This thread is off topic, look at all the people who could be bothered to mark it OT. ? Tony ? ? ? ? May have few for one for not like OFF TOPIC.? AH? ?for AROUND THE HOME? For I am OK with or without tags. I enjoy read like good old fashione Magazines?
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I’ve thought of doing a slide-out rack for my laser engravers (got 3 of them).? The “blue boxes’ as they’re known. ? They’re not too heavy (20-25kg?) but I’d still need some reasonably hefty slides. ? You’d only slide them out to load/unload, and slid back into the rack when running, a bit different to most tools.? ? Too many toys, not enough space. ? Tony ?
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Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT? I’ll have to look it up, because I think it’s on my computer at home, but I”ve seen a system that put’s the tools on a plywood base that fits into rack shelves in your shop, and as you need them you slide them out of the rack and insert them into a slot on the workbench or onto your B&D workmate to use.? I also have seen a variety of mobile workbench plans with similar systems to hold a table saw and planer on either side, stuff like that. Mostly woodworkeing but might be good for some machine tools as well. ?
On Jan 30, 2025, at 11:01?AM, Charles Kinzer via groups.io <ckinzer@...> wrote: ? I don't think that Craftsman flipping table was made for very long.? It might be one of those things that looks better in the than how it works in real life. I was thinking about other schemes an if there is enough depth, perhaps a turntable scheme could hold a back-to-back lathe and mill.? (Or more items, I suppose, but just the two items would be the most compact.) And perhaps another with a grinder, one of the smaller belt strip disk sanders (like 6 inch disk and 1 inch belt) and a small bench top cut-off style band saw. I think there is value in not having to turn things upside down.? Or having difficulty accessing a machine you might need just briefly when you want to also keep your current one at the ready. Recently at the optometrist I was being shuttled from room to room for different tests with different equipment.? I suggested it might be nice if the patient could just stay seated and brought to the equipment like in some Disney ride. I was told some offices have everything on essentially a big turntable and rotate each piece of equipment to you. On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 09:42:56 AM PST, Tony Smith via??<ajsmith1968@...> wrote: Thanks for that video, I’ve seen photos of that Craftsman table but never seen it in action.? I don’t think I’ve even seen how the wings come on & off, but that makes sense.? The scroll saw looks like it would be a bit awkward to use orientated like that. ? That’s about the size I’d make mine, dictated by the width of the lathe.? Not sure if I use wood or metal, I’ve got a couple of solid doors I was planning on using.? They might be fire rated, need to check for metal.? Or asbestos. ? Appropriate castors might slow me a bit, I like the ones that can be flipped out of the way so the things rest on the legs rather than rubber wheels.? I have seen wheels get squished be the weight of things. ? Flip top table are pretty popular amongst the woodworking crowd, probably inspired by that Craftsman. ? That video recommended this one:?, which is what I had in mind.? The table has stops to prevent the table “spinning” and would also make things a bit secure which I thought was an obvious thing to do (especially with 100kg of stuff bolted to it). ? He didn’t do it but it also means the “back” to that table can have a panel added for more rigidity since nothing would be passing thru there. ? Need to make a couple for the other tools, I’ve run out of space. ? Another project to add to the list.? I’ll get there eventually. ? ? ? ? ? ??? here's a tube on the Craftsman I mentioned?
theres several tubes with other folks ideas? animal On 1/29/25 10:13 PM, mike allen wrote: Craftsman used to sell a bench that held 3 separate bench top power tools? with one always on the bench top . maybe finding that could give ya ideas what/whatnot to do . I think the height of the mill is gonna be the issue .? good luck , keep us posted? animal On 1/29/25 8:48 PM, Tony Smith via??wrote: Dave’s real hobby is beating dead horses.?? ? Glad to see you added “OT”, I guess Dave couldn’t figure out how to do that (despite telling us how).? Lol. ? I’m pondering making a flip-top bench with my 7x12 on one side and the mini-mill on the other.? Wish me luck, I think I might need it.? (Probably should measure the mini-mill before going too far.) ? ? ? ? Hi guys. Sorry to come to this a bit late, I have 2 points though. ? * I’m not sure what the problem is, as anyone can add OT to the title, as I have done. So why the continuing debate ??? ? * I am amazed at some of the replies, not only to this but others as well. Where part of the reply is in understandable English and the rest is gobbledygook !!!? I can understand and forgive ?differences where clearly English is a second or third language. But where part of the message shows the writer understands English, I despair. Doesn’t anyone read through and correct any more ? ? ? ? If rotary table goes a mill it is OT. But if goes Mini lathe it is $&#^$ I guess it depends on if you interested read a about putting on a mini lathe if on topic or off. If do not like what they wrote then? write moderators and say?OFF TOPIC?and ask to have it delete post so no has anything thing to read.?? The bottom for group to be interesting is have something to read about and better to comment on too. In November of 2023 I finally purchased a mini after reading about mini lathes since 2005. The resoan thinking a mini lathe in 2005 changed by time purchased.? I chose to write about here and gave everyone here some read and write about.? No one goes out buys a lathe every month. My first was a garulatoin present it only down payment on a $10,000 today same lathe cost $80,000 had for over 30 years. My next had for 20 years. The point is most do not go out and buy new lathe very often. So hard for very here to say a lot? .? So we all here need more than jest the mini lathes to talk about or this would a very slow group On Fri, Jan 24, 2025 at 01:10 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Rotary table is fine.? Way better than whatever this (or your lack of understanding of how motor temperature ratings work). ? ? ? ? What is next thd chuck on the mini lathe is ot On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 03:22 PM, Tony Smith wrote: All that blah blah blah, and you still didn’t flag this thread as being off topic. ? Two keystrokes is still two too many for you, I guess. ? ? (Seriously, no-one cares, not even you.) ? ? The first that only want to see mini lathes only. I seen on some? groups it has to what title is only. Second group?arsed or not wanting to make the effort to add OT to help the first group.? Now the owner and moderators are trying to keep group fun and interesting for all. Then dealing with the first group and second group not helping.? A owner and moderators?have hard job at times. How mush? can you talk the subject. Some think you only talk about a mini lathes and the drill chuck is off subject.?? So soon or later you will have to go little or more off for slow times? Last year this had a long topic on bikes. It was a interesting topic to read I had nothing to say. The important part it made group interesting for slow time. If look at a few OFF topic I have post here in Tilte I put?OFF SUBJECT .? I Like OT Simple hit two keys at beginning? On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 04:55 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Nobody cares so long as it’s not too stupid. ?The moderators will be tired of seeing this stupid crap shortly and tell us to knock it off. ? Lists die because of no traffic or too much stupid crap.? And this thread has definitely hit the latter. ? And you still can’t be arsed to add OT to the subject. ? ? ? ? [Edited Message Follows]
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The lathe & mill are roughly the same weight (45kg & 55kg?) and the centre of gravity would be roughly at the pivot point (biased towards the mill as it’s heavier & taller) so flipping wouldn’t involve too much effort. ? Most of these set-ups let you go in both directions, mine would only go one way so less chance of it getting away from me. ? I’ve got a CAD model of the lathe, if I had one for the mill I could model the whole thing and see how it balances. ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ralph Lehotsky via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2025 5:08 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT? Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.
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You have to consider that the Craftsmen "rotary triple" gizmo for three tools also provides a little flat workbench space on each side of the tool.? That is probably useful.? It is true that you could probably fit two doubles in the same space, but you would have next to zero flat working space.? Of course, that may not matter to somebody if they have some flat space elsewhere.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Friday, February 7, 2025 at 04:02:05 PM PST, Tony Smith via groups.io <ajsmith1968@...> wrote:
The lathe & mill are roughly the same weight (45kg & 55kg?) and the centre of gravity would be roughly at the pivot point (biased towards the mill as it’s heavier & taller) so flipping wouldn’t involve too much effort. ? Most of these set-ups let you go in both directions, mine would only go one way so less chance of it getting away from me. ? I’ve got a CAD model of the lathe, if I had one for the mill I could model the whole thing and see how it balances. ? Tony ? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ralph Lehotsky via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2025 5:08 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [7x12MiniLathe] ANSWER TO GUIDE RULE - OT ? Unless it would have an assisting motor, I don't think that I would be able to flip a mini-lathe or a mini-mill.? I can barely lift one, and usually have to disassemble parts of them when considering a location move.? Otherwise, for lighter bench tools, I think it's a great idea.
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