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to oil or not to oil, that is the question


 

i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw
i use paraffin
the swarf doesn't stick and a vacuum makes quick work of the bits


 

Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin?


 

I like the idea of using a wax on gliding surfaces just not sure about the type of wax that you are using.? A liquid teflon based wax might work better than paraffin wax but I don¡¯t know.

Have A Great Day??
Tracy Ranson


On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 5:15?PM fxkl47BF via <fxkl47BF=[email protected]> wrote:
i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw
i use paraffin
the swarf doesn't stick and a vacuum makes quick work of the bits







 

You could probably even just use a wax (some do that on their woodworking tools).? But a very THIN film of oil, which is all you need, is not really much of a chip magnet.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:35:14 PM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:


Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin?


 

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, OldToolmaker via groups.io wrote:

Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin? _._,_._,_


 

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, T wrote:

I like the idea of using a wax on gliding surfaces just not sure about the type of wax that you are using.? A liquid teflon based wax might work better than paraffin wax
but I don¡¯t know.
in my area the summers are 90+ degreeF and 85 percent humidity
an oily surface turns nasty real quick


 

I regularly use mineral oil as tapping fluid. Seems to work great and very low odor as well.?


 

OldToolmaker 5:35pm? ?
Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin
Candle wax?

Dave?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=paraffin&setmkt=en-US&PC=EMMX01&form=EPIT2E&scope=web


 

fxkl47BF
5:15pm? ?
i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw

I use way lub it made for bed ways and lead screws.?


 

Here is pint size will along time.
I have 1 gal size I purchased in 2001.?

Dave?

https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=6385&category=


 

The generic for paraffin available locally in all Walmart stores. It is ordinary mineral oil. Used by wood turners and fine woodworkers. I use it on wood knife handles.
Also wood carvings.
Dries once absorbed. Easy to apply with cloth rag.
Dick


 

Paraffin is found in canning.
Mineral oil is found in pharmacy?
I have both on my bench with other oils.

20w and 68w oil is automobile section
Cutting oil at hardware store

The only oil I can not found at local store is Way Lub.? I use on lathes since 1976?

Dave?

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More should be said about lubrication on lathes and mills.?
Lubrication make the lathe and mill last for every.?

Dave?


 

For these small lathes, just about anything used for lubrication will suffice.? For example, some buy expensive way oil, but they could use just about anything.? The reason is that the forces, and in most cases the frequency of use, are rather trivial on a machine this size, and even more so for the average hobbyist who may seldom use it.? The goal of rust prevention is typically a larger issue.

On a larger lathe in an industrial 24-7 machining situation at high speeds, high forces, and trying to get every last bit of performance out of a machine, using proper products at proper intervals becomes very important.? But not really for these little machines.? Just to anything to keep the moving parts from getting bone dry, and keep the surfaces coated with something to prevent rust, and you'll be fine.

Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer

On Tuesday, January 9, 2024 at 09:47:13 AM PST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:


More should be said about lubrication on lathes and mills.?
Lubrication make the lathe and mill last for every.?

Dave?


 

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024, davesmith1800 wrote:

More should be said about lubrication on lathes and mills.?
Lubrication make the lathe and mill last for every.?
here here
i was a factory maintenence mechanic for 20 years
the other thing i do for my lathe is keep a small fan over it
it runs 24/7 365
my "shop" has no environmental controls
bare steel will rust while i'm cutting
oil will mix with the humidity and turn gummy


 

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??? ??? Dick , are ya sealing the wooden handles with the paraffin ??

thanks

animal

On 1/9/24 5:29 AM, OldToolmaker via groups.io wrote:

The generic for paraffin available locally in all Walmart stores. It is ordinary mineral oil. Used by wood turners and fine woodworkers. I use it on wood knife handles.
Also wood carvings.
Dries once absorbed. Easy to apply with cloth rag.
Dick


 

here
i was a factory maintenence mechanic for 20 years
the other thing i do for my lathe is keep a small fan over it
it runs 24/7 365
my "shop" has no environmental controls
bare steel will rust while i'm cutting
oil will mix with the humidity and turn gummy
Sounds great if your in Hawaii.?

Where I live heat is problem we get up to 114¡ãF .? Oil will run off even 180wt.?
I know most just think oil as a rust protection but it to keep from no metal to metal contact with film.??

Dave


 

I don't know where you guys live, but in my basement shop the temperature is constant within +/- 10 degree or so. My only environmental problem is humidity in the warmer months, which I keep at bay with a dehumidifier.

I have a mini-lathe, a mini-mill, an 11" Logan lathe, and a South Bend shaper. The shaper has a built-in oiling system (which was a pain to get right when I was restoring the shaper, but is nice to have now).?

On all of them I used to use cheaper stuff,? but now I use Mobil Vactra #2. It's about $50 a gallon, but a gallon will last you for years, so why not use the best?

Mike Taglieri?

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 4:22 PM davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
here
i was a factory maintenence mechanic for 20 years
the other thing i do for my lathe is keep a small fan over it
it runs 24/7 365
my "shop" has no environmental controls
bare steel will rust while i'm cutting
oil will mix with the humidity and turn gummy
Sounds great if your in Hawaii.?

Where I live heat is problem we get up to 114¡ãF .? Oil will run off even 180wt.?
I know most just think oil as a rust protection but it to keep from no metal to metal contact with film.??

Dave


 

Miket_NYC
2:10pm? ?
I don't know where you guys live, but in my basement shop the temperature is constant within +/- 10 degree or so. My only environmental problem is humidity in the warmer months, which I keep at bay with a dehumidifier.
I have a mini-lathe, a mini-mill, an 11" Logan lathe, and a South Bend shaper. The shaper has a built-in oiling system (which was a pain to get right when I was restoring the shaper, but is nice to have now).?
On all of them I used to use cheaper stuff, but now I use Mobil Vactra #2. It's about $50 a gallon, but a gallon will last you for years, so why not use the best?
Mike Taglieri?

California where it is hot ?.?

I use the same oil since 1976?

Dave?


 

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??? ??? Calif where its only warm? 28 degrees F . What I have to watch out for is coming in with a bunchof snow on my boots & than going in the machine room & lettin it melt there . I haven't had any issues yet , hope not to .

animal

On 1/9/24 7:10 PM, davesmith1800 wrote:

Miket_NYC
2:10pm? ?
I don't know where you guys live, but in my basement shop the temperature is constant within +/- 10 degree or so. My only environmental problem is humidity in the warmer months, which I keep at bay with a dehumidifier.
I have a mini-lathe, a mini-mill, an 11" Logan lathe, and a South Bend shaper. The shaper has a built-in oiling system (which was a pain to get right when I was restoring the shaper, but is nice to have now).?
On all of them I used to use cheaper stuff, but now I use Mobil Vactra #2. It's about $50 a gallon, but a gallon will last you for years, so why not use the best?
Mike Taglieri?

California where it is hot ?.?

I use the same oil since 1976?

Dave?