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Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

OldToolmaker Jan 20? ?
Avoid using any oil or grease on any chuck. Keep them clean inside and out and you won¡¯t have any issues. Oil and grease attract and hold chips. Frequent cleaning is the key. One product that could be useful is WD40 dry silicone in an aerosol spray. Although I have not tried it with chucks. It works great on hinges and such so it might work

I alway lub chucks?
Some took oil others use grease.?

I do use WD-40 because of tight tolerances on small chucks.?

After lubrication of chuck I put shield down on the chuch and turn lathe on high speed for minute to remove any extra lubrication so does not get on me.?

You never want metal to metal on a new or old lathe. The lub has film between the metals keep the lathe new for long time.

Dave?


Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

mike allen
Jan 20? ?
? ? ? ? Just about anything is cleaner that antiseize unless ya like the tin man look
I can only think one thing worst is open gear lubrication.??

My 2 cans antiseize is happy on shelf and may age like a fine wine ??

Dave?


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

I do single point threading because I do not have a tap or die.?
I use HHS because I can adjust the cutter for type steel .
Carbide is great for production work. They be quickly charged and has a nice form but have buy the carbon you need to buy for metal and thread.

The fun of single point after 15 year was gone too.?

Dave?


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

I do single point threading because it produces a very clean and nice looking thread. That is if it is done with a nice sharp tool. I particularly like nice sharp HSS tools. Carbide is never as sharp as HSS. Carbide tools do not have an edge as sharp asHSS and also take more horsepower.
Dick


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

For Mr animal

This is essentially what I have:



Mine may have come from Bangood, but like much from china, the same thing.? ?Bangood currently being blocked by my malwarebytes for potential evil doing.
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Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

Avoid using any oil or grease on any chuck. Keep them clean inside and out and you won¡¯t have any issues. Oil and grease attract and hold chips. Frequent cleaning is the key. One product that could be useful is WD40 dry silicone in an aerosol spray. Although I have not tried it with chucks. It works great on hinges and such so it might work.


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Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

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??? ??? Just about anything is cleaner that antiseize unless ya like the tin man look

On 1/20/24 7:33 AM, davesmith1800 wrote:

?I first started using oil and grease later antiseize.?
I want to try white lead to see how work and found EEZ lead substitute. It work great.?
It is cleaner than antiseize too.?

Dave?

Paul Fox
6:08am? ?
It's a grease substitute?


Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

Having messed around with molybdenum disulfide I agree that it stains the skin and is inherently very dark colored.? If that grease doesn't look very dark It may have a different kind of dry lubricant in it.? One that comes to mind is hexagonal boron nitride.? Like carbon, boron nitride can have different crystalline forms.? Diamond is hard but graphite isn't.? Cubic boron ntride (CBN) is very hard but hexagonal BN is soft enough that it's used as a dry lubricant:??,? It's white in color.


Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

?I first started using oil and grease later antiseize.?
I want to try white lead to see how work and found EEZ lead substitute. It work great.?
It is cleaner than antiseize too.?

Dave?

Paul Fox
6:08am? ?
It's a grease substitute?


Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

It's a grease substitute?


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Re: White lead for centers and chucks

 

FYI.?
When used it only a coating do not pack chuck. Just use a soldering brush on the geat teeth. I little is all you need.

Dave?


White lead for centers and chucks

 

Here a white lead sub for dead centers and bevel gears in scroll chucks. (Do use on scroll side of chuck 5w or 10w)
I used since the 1970's


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Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

This a trick works some times
Engaging the haft nuts?
If lead screw is 16 tpi then can Engage with 16 toi , 32 tpi and 48 tpi without the thread dial.
A 1.5tpm lead screw? you can engage without a thread dial 1.5 and .75
A 2 TPM lead screw can be engage without a dial 2, 1 and .5.

This works great on lathes with 4TPI lead screw. 4, 8, 12, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 36 and 40 tpi.? Lathe I used for 30 years had a 4TPI. Almost never had to use a thread dial.??

Dave?


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

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??? ??? Thank you sir

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On 1/19/24 1:37 PM, Craig Hopewell via groups.io wrote:

I've had the bars, 10mm internal and 10mm external and their inserts for a few (or several) years, and had to look around a bit.? ?Nothing on the packaging.

Found the chart below on amazon.? ?I have the 11ER-A60 and 11ir-A60 inserts - 16 to 48 tpi.
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Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 
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I've had the bars, 10mm internal and 10mm external and their inserts for a few (or several) years, and had to look around a bit.? ?Nothing on the packaging.

Found the chart below on amazon.? ?I have the 11ER-A60 and 11IR-A60 inserts - 16 to 48 tpi.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

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??? For me it's much easier to see whats going on when running out of the hole with the cutter on the back side of the hole upside down . SO what is the insert yer using ? What is the range of threads it can cut ?

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On 1/19/24 10:34 AM, Craig Hopewell via groups.io wrote:

Yes, running out the the hole is an excellent technique.? ?Useful to an external thread to a shoulder also, but the blind hole under power .... really necessary.
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Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

Chris Albertson
 

On Jan 19, 2024, at 5:30?AM, Craig Hopewell via groups.io <cch80124@...> wrote:

I think I do more single-point threading than tap or die threading. Certainly in larger thread sizes (1/2" and up), and certainly not in small thread sizes (less than 1/4"). Projects I do with large fine threads generally require single-point threading, especially if fine fitting is desired. I have a project to do with 7/8"x32tpi threads.

If you are working on parts for antique machines, then yes they used all kinds of add threads and you¡¯d never be able to find taps and dies for them all. But any new parts are likely to be metric and there are so few standard metric sizes you could own every die.


Re: Why I Do Single-Point Threading

 

Yes, running out the the hole is an excellent technique.? ?Useful to an external thread to a shoulder also, but the blind hole under power .... really necessary.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA