Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
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On 1/8/24 11:12 AM, davesmith1800
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FYI.?
I was diagnosed with stage 4 colan cancer in 2009 I retired in
2018.?
Today I enjoying setting up a new shop with mini lathe some day I
will replace the mill with mini mill too. Still doing welding and
fab work and working with wood too.
Dave?
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1st a thanks to those who suggested my Speedway 7x12 speed control issue was most likely a bad pot.? I replaced it with some major surgery and it¡¯s fully recovered and working like new.
Next problem is the unwanted taper I get machining stock longer than a few inches.? This happens whether I¡¯m turning between tailstock and 3 jaw chuck or between centers.? I¡¯m not a machinist an have no idea how to solve this issue.
For measurement I have a magnetic stand and plunger dial indicator.? But how to use them to solve my taper issue is a mystery.
Is the an easy way to achieve?this?
Tom
P.S.? I use my lathe in building bamboo fly fishing rod hardware.
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
What I'm trying to visualize is where on the lathe you installed the oilers.? On the ways - like drilling through the ways?
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 09:49:16 AM PST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Arthur Coe
9:01am? ?
I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of the installed oilers.??
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:54:27 AM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
Not must to look at install. The ball is to keep out chips .? My lathe has ball oilers on bedways too but I also have can with waylub that use on ways and feed screws.? The best way a lathe and other tools wear in lack of oil.? Installing simple 4mm size use a 4mm drill. If drill over size use epoxy to fill gap.? The type I ordered needs a bottom. Other types have rim so stops.? Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
FYI.?
I was diagnosed with stage 4 colan cancer in 2009 I retired in 2018.?
Today I enjoying setting up a new shop with mini lathe some day I will replace the mill with mini mill too. Still doing welding and fab work and working with wood too.
Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Try to remember to prof read.
I think as hit send?
Any knows me call Chemp brain only had over 100 treatments of chemp since 2009.?
I will try do better.
I also moderator on other sites and make mistakes too.
Sorry
Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Dave,
Have you ever thought about proof reading your messages before sending, instead of sending us your first draft, then an edited one?
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Brian
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On 01/08/2024 12:55 PM EST davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
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[Edited Message Follows] Arthur Coe
9:01am? ?
I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of the installed oilers.??
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:54:27 AM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
Not must to look at install.
The ball is to keep out chips .?
My lathe has ball oilers on bedways too but I also have can with waylub that use on ways and feed screws.? The lathe and other tools wear in lack of oil. It need a oil film so have not metal to metal. This also turn on all screws and nuts. A haft nut will last for ever if has oil. No oil very short life.
Installing simple 4mm size use a 4mm drill. If drill over size use epoxy to fill gap.?
The type I ordered needs a bottom.
Other types have rim so stops.?
Dave
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Arthur Coe
9:01am? ?
I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of the installed oilers.??
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:54:27 AM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
Not must to look at install. The ball is to keep out chips .? My lathe has ball oilers on bedways too but I also have can with waylub that use on ways and feed screws.? The lathe and other tools wear in lack of oil. It need a oil film so have not metal to metal. This also turn on all screws and nuts. A haft nut will last for ever if has oil. No oil very short life. Installing simple 4mm size use a 4mm drill. If drill over size use epoxy to fill gap.? The type I ordered needs a bottom. Other types have rim so stops.? Dave
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of the installed oilers.??
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:54:27 AM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
I think I have some of these lying around that I never put in.
Is there a recommendation on the appropriate hole size to get a good fit?
On Monday, January 8th, 2024 at 11:43 AM, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
This whatI am waiting for.?
Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
This whatI am waiting for.? Dave? 
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
OldToolmaker 5:54am? ?
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
I agree I have some on order.? Dave? https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ball+oilers&adgrpid=1339206841080920&hvadid=83700699417457&hvbmt=bp&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=44303&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=p&hvtargid=kwd-83701452862213%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=17566_13472009&tag=hydusmmsn-20&ref=pd_sl_2mukp3v7of_po&hvqmt=p&hvtargid=kwd-83701452862213%3Aloc-190&hydadcr=17566_13472009&tag=hydusmmsn-20&ref=pd_sl_2mukp3v7of_p
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Most do not know most machinist do like oiling the equipment. The machine shop will have the guy cleaning the chips out tool do the lub too.?
The only way my tools got oil if I used oil can. Since piad for tool it got a lot of oil too.
Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
OldToolmaker 4:40pm? ?
Dave,
While I agree taper roller bearings are not expressly needed on the minilathe they do fit and work well in this application. I have used both in my minilathes.
The ball bearings are quieter. I don¡¯t agree that a zirk is required
The Zirk in the correct location will push out the old grease.? But flip side almost no one use the zirk after first week.? I have install thousands of zerks knowing the odds of them use was low. But there are seal not {shield or open} and pack with grease before shipping.?? I like seal ball bearings just install and no worries for 30 or 40 years.? Dave
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Dave,
While I agree taper roller bearings are not expressly needed on the minilathe they do fit and work well in this application. I have used both in my minilathes.
The ball bearings are quieter. I don¡¯t agree that a zirk is required. The taper roller bears will run for years with just a pack. Occasionally I would open the headstock and give the taper roller bearings a shot of spray grease with a straw tube. Easy to maintain and not messy.
Dick
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
The tapered roller bearings have great load capability at lower speeds.? It is over kill for this size lathe .
There are down side from a tapered roller bearings over a seal ball bearing.
Lubrication most just just pack . It need a zerk? for grease?
Installing needs in very clean room and may need more parts to seal the tapered roller bearings most skep this part.?
Other than that is great bear for a oil bath head stock.?
The capacity of a 6206 is 2,500 pounds?
https://www.mcmaster.com/5972K342/
Dave?
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
The best way to go is angular contact bearings.? ? But installing is more difficult - as per bearing manufacturers directions and requirements.? ?That is why I went with tapered roller bearings.
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Lone Tree, Colorado? ?USA
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Re: Morse tapper in tail stock
I got a MT2- JT2 adapter like this (might have even been this one from Grizzly )?
I had to cut off the tang and enough of the shaft to get it to fit the tailstock; it wasn¡¯t hardened so it was easy.
I even have a genuine Jacobs chuck, but it¡¯s one of their low end cheap ones made for the big box stores.
Start with the Jacobs site to identify your chuck & see how to mount it.
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Then, you can decide what to do; either buy or make a suitable mounting for it, keeping in mind that genuine Jacobs goodies are pricier than generic stuff.
Roy
--? Bruce Johnson
"Wherever you go, there you are." B. Banzai, PhD
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Here is a video on making a single crank on a lathe
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Re: Morse tapper in tail stock
Start with the Jacobs site to identify your chuck & see how to mount it.
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Then, you can decide what to do; either buy or make a suitable mounting for it, keeping in mind that genuine Jacobs goodies are pricier than generic stuff.
Roy
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