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Re: 4 inch chuck question

 

4 jaw scroll chucks are of limited use. They can hold round,
square & octagonal stock; the 3 jaw can hold round & hexagonal
stock. Since most common threaded fasteners are hexagonal or have
hex heads, the 3 jaw scroll is handiest.
For the occasional square piece, dead-accurate round work, offset
(camshaft/crankshaft looking stuff) & any other odd pieces, the 4-jaw
independent is the way to go. 4-jaw scroll chucks are usually only
used by shops that turn lots of round sections on square pieces; why
HF is offering them is a mystery to me!

Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "kraken_03" <kraken_03@y...>
wrote:
Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and
read
up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone
sell
a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be
modified
our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...>
wrote:
The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...> wrote:
I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.




Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for
my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF
has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already
bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to
put on it.


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Re: stupid question from a beginner

Jerry Smith
 

Roy,
I knew of the Army one, it's not just for reserves(USAR), but the
MSU site is great.

Jerry

At 12:12 AM 6/27/2003, you wrote:
Jerry,
Here's a direct link to the USAR manual:


Here's the University of Michigan digital collection; "Modern
Machine Shop Practice" vols 1&2 & "The Advanced Machinist" are in
here:


And a link to the USN manual (I could have sworn there was a link
on the 7x10 group):


Roy


Re: stupid question from a beginner

 

Jerry,
Here's a direct link to the USAR manual:


Here's the University of Michigan digital collection; "Modern
Machine Shop Practice" vols 1&2 & "The Advanced Machinist" are in
here:


And a link to the USN manual (I could have sworn there was a link
on the 7x10 group):


Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...>
wrote:
Roy,
Could you point the way to those government publications?
It may
help us all.

Jerry

At 11:58 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:
The round bits are nice in shop-made boring bars; easier to
make a
round hole than a square hole (ease of manufacture is offset by
difficulty of aligning tool.)
On the 7x10 group, there are links to downloadable USN & USAR
training manuals and older, public domain texts.

Roy


Re: 4 inch chuck question

collectric
 

I don't think hexagons will work to well in the 4 jaw. Maybe octagons.

Tom



why not get a 4 jaw self centring chuck,? you can then hold round,
square
and hexagonal all in one chuck

DAVID WILLIAMS
BOLTON
ENGLAND
www.smartgroups.com/groups/fliers


Re: 4 inch chuck question

david
 

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.>>>>>>>>>


why not get a 4 jaw self centring chuck,? you can then hold round, square
and hexagonal all in one chuck

DAVID WILLIAMS
BOLTON
ENGLAND
www.smartgroups.com/groups/fliers


Re: 4 inch chuck question

Jerry Smith
 

I took the face plate that I bought from HF, laid the chuck on it,
and found where I had to mill new slots. So half and hour later, I was up
and running with the 5 inch chuck.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

At 10:48 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and read
up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone sell
a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be modified
our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig


Re: 4 inch chuck question

Robert Streimikes
 

A couple of notes:

1. this chuck will not give you the versatility of an independent 4 jaw which imnsho is much more valuable than having a somewhat larger self-centering chuck (be it 3 jaw, 4 jaw or 6 jaw.)

2. Hf's web site lists accuracy as .005 mm which is an obvious error. probably more like .005 inches.

3. Can anyone recommend an inexpensive 4" 4 jaw INDEPENDENT chuck for the mini lathe?
Regards
Bob


kraken_03 wrote:

Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and read up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone sell a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be modified our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig


Re: 4 inch chuck question

kraken_03
 

Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and read
up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone sell
a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be modified
our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...> wrote:
The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...> wrote:
I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.




Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for
my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF
has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already
bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to
put on it.


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Re: 4 inch chuck question

 

The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@...> wrote:
I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.




Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for
my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF
has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already
bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to
put on it.


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Re: 4 inch chuck question

Jerry Smith
 

I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF 7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me. I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.




Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:
I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to put on it.


4 inch chuck question

kraken_03
 

I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to put on it.


Re: stupid question from a beginner

Robert Streimikes
 

lecompte126 wrote:

What is the small 1/8" bit used for, some small delicate work?
Some small boring bars use 1/8" bits. I got one from Grizzly that required them.
Regards
Bob


Re: stupid question from a beginner

Jerry Smith
 

Roy,
Could you point the way to those government publications? It may
help us all.

Jerry

At 11:58 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:
The round bits are nice in shop-made boring bars; easier to make a
round hole than a square hole (ease of manufacture is offset by
difficulty of aligning tool.)
On the 7x10 group, there are links to downloadable USN & USAR
training manuals and older, public domain texts.

Roy


Re: stupid question from a beginner

 

The round bits are nice in shop-made boring bars; easier to make a
round hole than a square hole (ease of manufacture is offset by
difficulty of aligning tool.)
On the 7x10 group, there are links to downloadable USN & USAR
training manuals and older, public domain texts.

Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lecompte126"
<lecompte126@h...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have a stupid question. I received my 7x12 mini lathe a couple
weeks ago, I ordered my cutting blades from harbor freight and they
came in today. Guess I was so excited about ordering my hhs
cutting
bits that I realy didn't read the sales advertisement that well. I
thought I would get the same size cutting bits (got the 5 pc set)
I knew i was getting a cut off bit but i thought the other 4 bits
were 1/4" bits.

This is what I got: 1ea) 1/2 x 1/16 x 4 1/2
1ea) 1/8 x 2 1/2
1ea) 3/16 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2 ( round bit )

So I guess what my question is what is the 1/4" round bit used for?

What is the small 1/8" bit used for, some small delicate work?

Thank you for your help in answering these question.

Kelvin


Re: stupid question from a beginner

Jerry Smith
 

Kevin,
I think the best thing I can do is point you to some books:

Machining Fundamentals John R. Walker (Hardcover, 1982)

22nd Edtion Machinery's Handbook 1984


Both can Found on Ebay or Half.ebay.com

These will help you al ot.

Jerry

At 03:28 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:
Hi everyone,

I have a stupid question. I received my 7x12 mini lathe a couple
weeks ago, I ordered my cutting blades from harbor freight and they
came in today. Guess I was so excited about ordering my hhs cutting
bits that I realy didn't read the sales advertisement that well. I
thought I would get the same size cutting bits (got the 5 pc set)
I knew i was getting a cut off bit but i thought the other 4 bits
were 1/4" bits.

This is what I got: 1ea) 1/2 x 1/16 x 4 1/2
1ea) 1/8 x 2 1/2
1ea) 3/16 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2 ( round bit )

So I guess what my question is what is the 1/4" round bit used for?

What is the small 1/8" bit used for, some small delicate work?

Thank you for your help in answering these question.

Kelvin



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stupid question from a beginner

lecompte126
 

Hi everyone,

I have a stupid question. I received my 7x12 mini lathe a couple
weeks ago, I ordered my cutting blades from harbor freight and they
came in today. Guess I was so excited about ordering my hhs cutting
bits that I realy didn't read the sales advertisement that well. I
thought I would get the same size cutting bits (got the 5 pc set)
I knew i was getting a cut off bit but i thought the other 4 bits
were 1/4" bits.

This is what I got: 1ea) 1/2 x 1/16 x 4 1/2
1ea) 1/8 x 2 1/2
1ea) 3/16 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2
1ea) 1/4 x 2 1/2 ( round bit )

So I guess what my question is what is the 1/4" round bit used for?

What is the small 1/8" bit used for, some small delicate work?

Thank you for your help in answering these question.

Kelvin


Re: newbie

jagco1998
 

Well, If being able to get parts real easy is your main concern...Id
go with the Homier 7x12.
Having dealt with both companies in CS issues, Id have to say that
Homier was a little quicker to send them out to me.
Besides, LMS has everything that you would need in parts for either
one of the lathes, and they ship em' out to ya , usually in the same
day that the order was placed.
At $299, the Homier 7x12 was my choice, seeing how its less of a
hassle to order parts from LMS, rather than wait on CS to send them
out where I purchased the lathe from for replacemnt parts. The only
thing that I found wrong with my lathe when I received it, was one of
the 80T gears' keyway was stripped and received a new one from homier
withing 3 days.
When I purchased my mini mill from Grizzly some time back it took
almost 3 weeks to get a gear that I could have gotten from LMS in
about 3 or 4 days tops.

For me it was a no brainer decision to make in which one to buy.

Hi folks,

I am ready to purchase a 7x12 mini lathe and see a whoppin price
difference between grizzly and homier. I know the grizzly comes
with
2 extra tools (steady rest and 6 1/4" faceplate). Are there any
differences in the actual parts of the machines? are some parts
more
rugged on the grizzly (plasctic on homeier? vs. metal on grizzly?)

$299 sure sounds like a real good buy. I wanna get a little lathe
and
then build an upscaled gingery (with around 40" workspace between
centers)

Choice is important to me since I live only half hour drive from
grizzly tools and get get parts real easy.

-Hawk-


Help in determining screw pitch?

jagco1998
 

I posted this over at 7x10 also, in hopes of reaching some extra
experienced small shop machinists advice in the matter..

I have a collet set that needs a new collet closer and Id like to be
able to determine what size thread to cut on my 7X12 when making a
new one(its more than likely metric..its a chinese set...no specs on
it anywhere to be found??Might be imperial DOUBT IT THOUGH)...I dont
have a thread gage ATM, and was wondering if anyone knows of a way to
figure it out without a thread gage and if you could expalin it to me
please?

If it helps any...its the quick change MT3 set that micromark and
littlemachineshop, ect. sells.

Thanks in advance


Re: newbie

 

The Grizzly 7x12 and Homier 7x12 are the same lathe, made in the same
factory - I have both. The Grizzly comes with a face plate and steady
rest but these can be purchased separately from several vendors. The
Grizzly is a great machine, but the Homier is a better deal. Since
you live near Grizzly, that might make it a better choice for you.

For more information, see these links:






Frank Hoose


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "lifes_jeep" <swsmt@a...> wrote:
Hi folks,

I am ready to purchase a 7x12 mini lathe and see a whoppin price
difference between grizzly and homier. I know the grizzly comes
with
2 extra tools (steady rest and 6 1/4" faceplate). Are there any
differences in the actual parts of the machines? are some parts
more
rugged on the grizzly (plasctic on homeier? vs. metal on grizzly?)

$299 sure sounds like a real good buy. I wanna get a little lathe
and
then build an upscaled gingery (with around 40" workspace between
centers)

Choice is important to me since I live only half hour drive from
grizzly tools and get get parts real easy.

-Hawk-


Re: Delrin

Jerry Smith
 

I haven't tried the new replacement for Freon. What I have done is used CO2 for my spray coolant for larger projects. It works well for my things. I have a 10 pound ( I think) and a 80 pounder in the hot shop. I use CO2 for carbon steel with MIG welding, so I do have it on hand.

Jerry

At 06:03 PM 6/20/2003, you wrote:
I am a newbie to the group. I know that many plastics
become brittle at (very) low temperatures. Some of
them need to be treated with liquid nitrogen to make
them brittle.

One experiment someone can try is to keep the piece in
a freezer for a couple of hours and then try to
machine it.

Liquid nitrogen is dangerous in some ways (don't try
to dip your body parts in it - they will break off
too) but something else that can be sprayed to cool
the work piece (The newer Freon?) may do the job.
Don't know how it will affect the cutting tool though.

I don't have a lathe yet. I joined the group to hang
around & read various discussions to get a feel of
what I should buy. May be in a few months ...

Chip_User
----------------------------------------------
--- Richard Albers <rralbers@...> wrote:
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We just live with it. I don't think it is
possible to break such
a soft material into smaller chips. It *may* be
possible to grab the
string with pliers and break it (or just hold it
away from the cut),
but I do not recommend this for most HSMs - it would
be too easy to
get into trouble. Like watching the chip,and
forgetting to stop the
cut before the bit hits the chuck (lots of us have
done that :-o).
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