Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
Here is pint size will along time.
I have 1 gal size I purchased in 2001.?
Dave?
https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=6385&category=
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
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5:15pm? ?
i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw
I use way lub it made for bed ways and lead screws.? 
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
OldToolmaker 5:35pm? ?
Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin
Candle wax?
Dave?
https://www.bing.com/search?q=paraffin&setmkt=en-US&PC=EMMX01&form=EPIT2E&scope=web
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??? ??? If it's out side to side ya move the tailstock in the
direction that gets it on point? ( no pun intended )?
??? ??? If it's out top to bottom ya need to shim? the tailstock
.
??? ??? That last pic looks to me like it was taken at a angle so
in that case ya may have to do both . Have ya checked to see id
teh headstock is on the bed straight & not tipped up , down or
sideways ? The mention of rods from a printer is a good one
??? animal
On 1/8/24 7:29 PM, Thomas Key wrote:
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animal¡here are 3 photos.?
Not sure?if they help you see my issue.? It
definitely?appears?the tailstock needs to be
adjusted?which I do know how to do but have not tried. Let
me know what you recommend.? Thanks.
?
Tom
#1 from directly above
#2 from side
#3 .017¡± gap with feeler gauge
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at
11:36 AM mike allen < animal@...>
wrote:
??? ??? put a center in the headstock & a nother
in the tailstock , now bring the tailstocl up to the
headstocl . How far off are the 2 center points from
meeting each other ?
animal
On 1/8/24 11:21 AM, Thomas Key wrote:
1st a thanks to those who
suggested my Speedway 7x12 speed control issue was
most likely a bad pot.? I replaced it with some major
surgery and it¡¯s fully recovered and working like new.
Next problem is the unwanted taper I
get machining stock longer than a few inches.? This
happens whether I¡¯m turning between tailstock and 3
jaw chuck or between centers.? I¡¯m not a machinist
an have no idea how to solve this issue.
For measurement I have a magnetic
stand and plunger dial indicator.? But how to use
them to solve my taper issue is a mystery.
Is the an easy way to achieve?this?
Tom
P.S.? I use my lathe in building
bamboo fly fishing rod hardware.
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animal¡here are 3 photos.? Not sure?if they help you see my issue.? It definitely?appears?the tailstock needs to be adjusted?which I do know how to do but have not tried. Let me know what you recommend.? Thanks.
? Tom
#1 from directly above
#2 from side #3 .017¡± gap with feeler gauge
On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 11:36 AM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? put a center in the headstock & a nother in the
tailstock , now bring the tailstocl up to the headstocl . How far
off are the 2 center points from meeting each other ?
animal
On 1/8/24 11:21 AM, Thomas Key wrote:
1st a thanks to those who suggested my Speedway 7x12 speed control
issue was most likely a bad pot.? I replaced it with some major
surgery and it¡¯s fully recovered and working like new.
Next problem is the unwanted taper I get machining
stock longer than a few inches.? This happens whether I¡¯m
turning between tailstock and 3 jaw chuck or between centers.?
I¡¯m not a machinist an have no idea how to solve this issue.
For measurement I have a magnetic stand and
plunger dial indicator.? But how to use them to solve my taper
issue is a mystery.
Is the an easy way to achieve?this?
Tom
P.S.? I use my lathe in building bamboo fly
fishing rod hardware.
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Between this and the video - got it!? Thanks.
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 04:53:34 PM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Arthur,
The spring ball oil fitting is installed only in the saddle casting , never in the ways. A small pilot hole for the oil port is drilled through the casting and then tapped the appropriate size. The ways get oiled when the pump oil can is seated squarely on the fitting and a squirt of oil is shot into the fitting.
The fittings can also be on bushings that require oiling.
Indispensable on many applications.
Dick
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
I regularly use mineral oil as tapping fluid. Seems to work great and very low odor as well.?
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On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, T wrote: I like the idea of using a wax on gliding surfaces just not sure about the type of wax that you are using.? A liquid teflon based wax might work better than paraffin wax
but I don¡¯t know. in my area the summers are 90+ degreeF and 85 percent humidity an oily surface turns nasty real quick
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024, OldToolmaker via groups.io wrote: Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin? _._,_._,_
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
You could probably even just use a wax (some do that on their woodworking tools).? But a very THIN film of oil, which is all you need, is not really much of a chip magnet.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:35:14 PM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin?
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You actually have to check both the HS and the TS alignment.
The HS spindle should be parallel to the bed, both horizontally & vertically. A 3MT test bar is the ideal tool, lacking one of those, a straight rod held in the chuck & tested at 90¡ã intervals will work. Don't be surprised if you have to remove the HS to clean & de-burr the mounting surfaces. Worst case is having to install shims to get the spindle axis parallel to the bed, horizontally & vertically.
To align the TS, mount a straight rod between centers & use an indicator to get the TS aligned with the HS. Don't be surprised if the TS needs some work to get it vertically aligned. Salvaged guide rods from a discarded printer are nice, straight pieces of mild steel.
I made an adjustable mounting? plate for my 3 jaw to get the chuck axis concentric with the spindle axis; once set, it stays that way over the chuck's grip range.
Roy
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
I like the idea of using a wax on gliding surfaces just not sure about the type of wax that you are using.? A liquid teflon based wax might work better than paraffin wax but I don¡¯t know. Have A Great Day?? Tracy Ranson
i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw
i use paraffin
the swarf doesn't stick and a vacuum makes quick work of the bits
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Re: to oil or not to oil, that is the question
Nothing wrong with that.
Where do you get your paraffin?
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to oil or not to oil, that is the question
i'll surely get severely chastised for this blasphemy
my lathe has ball oiler at various locations
and i regularly oil the bearings and gear bushings
but not the ways and lead screw
i use paraffin
the swarf doesn't stick and a vacuum makes quick work of the bits
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Arthur,
The spring ball oil fitting is installed only in the saddle casting , never in the ways. A small pilot hole for the oil port is drilled through the casting and then tapped the appropriate size. The ways get oiled when the pump oil can is seated squarely on the fitting and a squirt of oil is shot into the fitting.
The fittings can also be on bushings that require oiling.
Indispensable on many applications.
Dick
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All lathe test never did head stock off.?
But there the first time.?
Back 1980 there was Chinese lathe where bed wrap by ?" . The machinery dealer was try sell the lathe Great price too.?
I found the tail stock off a lot.?
Most time a easy fix.?
I get very close and use morse tapper reamer.? Just lightly lock the quill and keep the close to reamer and tail stick close so quill has a very short stick out.?
Dave?
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On Jan 8, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Thomas Key <takey89@...> wrote:
1st a thanks to those who suggested my Speedway 7x12 speed control issue was most likely a bad pot.? I replaced it with some major surgery and it¡¯s fully recovered and working like new.
Next problem is the unwanted taper I get machining stock longer than a few inches.? This happens whether I¡¯m turning between tailstock and 3 jaw chuck or between centers.? I¡¯m not a machinist an have no idea how to solve this issue.
For measurement I have a magnetic stand and plunger dial indicator.? But how to use them to solve my taper issue is a mystery.
Is the an easy way to achieve?this?
Tom
P.S.? I use my lathe in building bamboo fly fishing rod hardware.
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Here¡¯s a lathe alignment guide:??
(Pretty sure gadgetbuilder¡¯s on the list)
There¡¯s a couple chapters on doing this in the complete mini-lathe workshop book as well?
I am guessing it is your tailstock, since you said it¡¯s between centers or the chuck and tailstock.
If you find any junked inkjet or laser printers they have several accurate rods in them, usually pretty small in diameter but they¡¯re useful for checking stuff like this. Worn out hatchback lifts are also great sources for straight hardened rods. I¡¯ve had to replace them in a couple of mu cars and salvaged the worn out ones.
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Bruce Johnson
The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism.
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
Here #4 better on larger lathes a screws
https://www.bing.com/shop/productpage?q=way+oil+substitute&filters=scenario%3a%2217%22+gType%3a%2212%22+gId%3a%2278343626361%22+gIdHash%3a%220%22+gGlobalOfferIds%3a%2278343626361%22+AucContextGuid%3a%220%22+GroupEntityId%3a%2278343626361%22+NonSponsoredOffer%3a%22True%22&productpage=true&FORM=SHPPDP&browse=true&cvid=5D1DDC6D027A4CA3BCA4FDC9F7F454A2
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
This oil I use? I had gal for 20 years Dave? 
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Re: A Great Bit of Craftsman Machining
There are several places.? Things are kinda busy at work now or I'd look for more.
This video has two places:?? Start at 6:28
I've also seen them on the carriage to oil the ways, on the saddle to oil the gears on on the cross-slide/compound.
On Monday, January 8th, 2024 at 2:15 PM, Arthur Coe <acoe@...> wrote:
What I'm trying to visualize is where on the lathe you installed the oilers.? On the ways - like drilling through the ways?
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 09:49:16 AM PST, davesmith1800 <davesmith1@...> wrote:
Arthur Coe
9:01am? ?
I'd be interested in seeing some pictures of the installed oilers.??
On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 05:54:27 AM PST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
I have a ball oilers installed for use with an oil can with a tip to match. Very neat and not oil all over everything. That is how my minilathe gets its oil. Including the ways.
Dick
Not must to look at install. The ball is to keep out chips .? My lathe has ball oilers on bedways too but I also have can with waylub that use on ways and feed screws.? The best way a lathe and other tools wear in lack of oil.? Installing simple 4mm size use a 4mm drill. If drill over size use epoxy to fill gap.? The type I ordered needs a bottom. Other types have rim so stops.? Dave?
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