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What Should We Do About Group Storage? #poll-notice


 

I have been missing this thread which is now more than 3 months old. I voted and found I am not a member of the majority. That's OK, I can chip in.
What I hear Mr. Downs saying is he needs people to contribute to the main A-C group also. ,I can chip in there, too. What I need is the PayPal account(s) to where I should send money.

RE: FB groups: I participate in several FB groups, (listed below) and yes it s sometimes difficult to search past postings but not impossible. It is surprising how popular the FB groups are as a platform for focused discussions.

There are other machinist related forums available, not just FB groups. Hobby-Machinist dot com is popular. H-M has a tiered contributor structure but permits non-paying registration. H-M has a hard line on snarky comments so one must be careful of what they say, and if you are active and/or download a lot of documents without being a paid subscriber you can get kicked off. Other groups of note include bbs.homeshopmachinist.net with more than 1 million posts in the General Discussion group, There is manual-machinist.proboards.com with all of 70 registered members, practicalmachinist.com is by far and above the largest, but tends to cater to those who are employed professionals and the members are sometimes impatient with hobbyists. Homemachinist (chaski.org/homemachinist) has more than 15,000 members and has a structured format with multiple categories for discussion. There is a host of others that can be found with a google search for "machinist forums." And there is machinistweb.com which I administer. It has a categorized format with specific lathe and milling machine brands, a Sawing Shop, a Welding Shop, Off-Topic Lounge, documentation library and a place to buy and sell parts and machinery. Registration is required to view and download images and documents but registration is free. The site is supported by members' voluntary contributions.

The bottom line is I will support this 4x6 bandsaw forum as well as the Atlas/Craftsman Metal Working Machines forum, but there are other places on the Internet where we can all gain help and share our experiences.

Raymond

Subscribed Forums:
/g/atlas-craftsman
/g/4x6bandsaw
(administrator)


Atlas And Craftsman lathes
Home hobby machinist buy sell trade
Band sawmill talk
The Manual Machinist
And a few others unrelated to machinery of any kind.

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Back when it became obvious to most that Yahoo Groups was going to shut down, and the 开云体育 rates got published, and so on, I had just become co-owner of the Atlas-Craftsman main group. After several weeks of discussion of what to do by way of funding the new Group, I set up a (second) PayPal account and set the 开云体育 account to bill it monthly. After looking at the PayPal details I concluded that about $10.00 donation made more sense than $5.00 because it cost about the same amount so the yield was better. However, beyond mentioning that fact, no firm amount was actually specified. As best I recall, most of the existing members gave $10.00, a few gave $5.00 and a few gave $15.00 or $20.00. I think that all took place in about 2018 so it would be about time to ring the bell again for the A-C group. :-)

Robert Downs

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Terry Coombs
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 19:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

On 12/18/2020 5:35 PM, Tom Angell via groups.io wrote:
I think it would help everyone if you listed a suggested amount for the
donation.
Tom Angell
Falls Church, VA
Five bucks has been suggested by more than one ...

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I am a lurker, but have gotten valuable info and ideas here when needed. I would pay $5 for year just to maintain access.

As has already been mentioned, requiring members to sign up manually would automatically cull the list. I am sure there are very many on the list who no longer have any interest.
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Regards,

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New Jersey, USA

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Well, I finally found the poll and took it.? And then had a look at the results.? Considering the relatively small number of posts that I have made, I decided I must be a lurker but if necessary, I would contribute, so voted for that.

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I recognize several of the names or User ID’s from other Groups, Lists or Sites that I’m on as Member, Moderator, Co-Owner or Owner and presume that most of those will recognize my User ID.

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To bring the poll results up to date, 53 members have now voted.? Of those, 9 voted for keeping the group free or said that they wouldn’t contribute, and 44 said that they would contribute.?

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Before going any further, the member count doesn’t seem to figure in to whether the Group can be Free or Premium.? So I wouldn’t suggest spending any time right away anyway at pruning the Group.? However, later it probably wouldn’t hurt anything or at least unsubscribe the confirmed bouncers.? And then maybe those who haven’t posted since say January of 2018.? But they should not be banned unless they are a known troublemaker.

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What I suggest doing about supporting the Group if/when groups.io says we have to go Paid is to have one of the Owners or Moderators who already has a fairly active PayPal account to set up another business account on PayPal for the 4x6Bandsaw Group and set it up to receive the donations and then set it up so that groups.io bills it monthly for the $20.00.? Although it is old enough that our monthly bill is only $10.00 (and so far they haven’t said anything about raising it), that is exactly what I did for the main Atlas-Craftsman Group.? Should PayPal; ever complain about the lack of activity in that account, I would point to the other account as being active enough for both.? Which would probably satisfy them.

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On the subject of how much to suggest for a donation, I have never tried to sound out anyone at PayPal on it but strongly suggest that any call for donations includes a request NOT to send it as what they used to call Friends & Family.? That would be another plus if they were ever to complain about relative inactivity in the account.? That being said, I would ask for no less than $10.00, and judging from the number of replies to Bill’s Poll, it might be safer to start off at $20.00.? PayPal’s fees for receiving funds consist of a flat per-transaction charge plus a percentage.? So anything less than $10.00 just net’s too little to fool with.

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I have some thoughts or suggestions about organizing/pruning Files and Photos but I need to get to bed so will leave that for a later day.

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 21:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

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Well, we've had 32 people including myself take the poll. Less than 1% of the group. I thank those of you who took the time to vote, even if you don't want to contribute. I've looked at the photos, and I'm not seeing much of anything I think should not be preserved. IIRC, we have over 4300 members. If you lurk, or participate, but have not yet taken the poll, would you please do so??

I cannot do this by myself. Joe cannot do it by himself. We need some help here, folks! And if you have photos in an album that you don't think we need on the group anymore, would you please remove them? If you cannot get them to go, tell me about in a private email and I'll try to do it for you. You can email me at wmrmeyers (at) sbcglobal (dot) net or (at) yahoo (dot) com

Bill in OKC


 

On 12/18/2020 5:35 PM, Tom Angell via groups.io wrote:
I think it would help everyone if you listed a suggested amount for the donation.
Tom Angell
Falls Church, VA
Five bucks has been suggested by more than one ...

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Count me in for a few bucks.


On Sat, 19 Dec. 2020, 07:25 Clem Wixted, <cwixted@...> wrote:
Count me in. I’ve gotten much help years ago from the helpful people on here who have provided great ideas that I have incorporated. I’m mostly a lurker now but it’s still of value to me.?
Count me in.?
Clem

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:09 PM Joe Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

I am looking into setting up a way to donate via PayPal. Neither myself nor Bill in Ok are in a position to front the payment to make the change. Hopefully I’ll have something in place in the next few days and I’ll keep the list informed. Right now we have about forty souls willing to donate, hopefully that number will increase.

Regards,

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ? 85629

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Once the group is upgraded, you can setup a donation request on the group. IO has a system in place for that. But it is not available to the free groups.?


 

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I think it would help everyone if you listed a suggested amount for the donation.
Tom Angell
Falls Church, VA

On Dec 18, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Clem Wixted <cwixted@...> wrote:

Count me in. I’ve gotten much help years ago from the helpful people on here who have provided great ideas that I have incorporated. I’m mostly a lurker now but it’s still of value to me.?
Count me in.?
Clem

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:09 PM Joe Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

I am looking into setting up a way to donate via PayPal. Neither myself nor Bill in Ok are in a position to front the payment to make the change. Hopefully I’ll have something in place in the next few days and I’ll keep the list informed. Right now we have about forty souls willing to donate, hopefully that number will increase.

Regards,

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ? 85629

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Count me in. I’ve gotten much help years ago from the helpful people on here who have provided great ideas that I have incorporated. I’m mostly a lurker now but it’s still of value to me.?
Count me in.?
Clem

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:09 PM Joe Melhorn <toyman@...> wrote:

I am looking into setting up a way to donate via PayPal. Neither myself nor Bill in Ok are in a position to front the payment to make the change. Hopefully I’ll have something in place in the next few days and I’ll keep the list informed. Right now we have about forty souls willing to donate, hopefully that number will increase.

Regards,

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ? 85629

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Agreed, it is real or near real time chat.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Loyd
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

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Well said animal!

On 12/18/2020 9:54 AM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? friends don't let friends use Facebook

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On 12/18/2020 6:43 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:

I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.

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Bill in OKC

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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)

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On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:

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How about starting the group in Facebook??

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-------- Original message --------

From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...>

Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

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Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?

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I am looking into setting up a way to donate via PayPal. Neither myself nor Bill in Ok are in a position to front the payment to make the change. Hopefully I’ll have something in place in the next few days and I’ll keep the list informed. Right now we have about forty souls willing to donate, hopefully that number will increase.

Regards,

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ? 85629

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Ralph Hulslander
 

One problem with keeping the free group is it is going to take someone spending unreimbursed time to go through the files and photos.

Going to a paid group avoids the hassle.

Of course going through all of the members and cancelling them will take some effort also. But that is a good idea.

Ralph



On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 3:57 PM steve nicholson <steve@...> wrote:
I realise storage space is the core concern here, however I would like
to point out another issue that should also be addressed at the same time.

If the new payment structure of is moving to a pay per member
for large groups may I suggest the membership is thinned to those active
in the group, this may help solve some of the other issues as well.

Currently there are 4,379 Members in this group, Using 204 MB for files
storage, 1.0 MB for attachments storage, 924 MB for photos storage. Over
the last 18 years there has been on average 820 posts per year, and this
drops to average of 368 over the last 5 years. That makes this a very
low usage group yet a lot of storage.

In comparison, the Boxford lathe group I'm also on, has only 286
Members, Using 196 MB for files storage, 185 MB for attachments storage,
520 MB for photos storage. Over the last 12 months there has been 1821
posts. The big difference is they culled a lot of un-needed stuff when
they transitioned from Yahoo-Groups and aren't having a storage issue.

I can't remember but I think they made everyone sign up for a new
account on rather than just transfer them over.

My recommendations are as follows:

1. Force all members to rejoin the group, this will get rid of 80-90% of
people that no longer have an interest here, they can always rejoin
later if they need to access information.

2. As recommended in another post, aggressively purge/re-size the files
and photos areas. Having a quick look, there are photos in there that
are 3.5 MB in size that would be fine at 150-200kb to understand the
detail being presented. I downloaded the files and photos sections at
the change over to from yahoo groups so if you accidentally
delete something you feel should be up there I probably still have it
and can add it back.

The group is a great resource of information, I'm happy to chip in $ to
keep access to it, I would rather we cut back the additional fluff so
the group can operate at the lowest cost though. May I also suggest
consider getting a company to sponsor the costs, Henry from
Rong Fu Industrial may be interested in helping with this. Having a
sponsor is no different than being blasted by advertising in "free"
Facebook groups (which I advise against as they aren't suitable for the
function of this group).

Thanks.
Steve (NZ)







 

I realise storage space is the core concern here, however I would like to point out another issue that should also be addressed at the same time.

If the new payment structure of groups.io is moving to a pay per member for large groups may I suggest the membership is thinned to those active in the group, this may help solve some of the other issues as well.

Currently there are 4,379 Members in this group, Using 204 MB for files storage, 1.0 MB for attachments storage, 924 MB for photos storage. Over the last 18 years there has been on average 820 posts per year, and this drops to average of 368 over the last 5 years. That makes this a very low usage group yet a lot of storage.

In comparison, the Boxford lathe group I'm also on, has only 286 Members, Using 196 MB for files storage, 185 MB for attachments storage, 520 MB for photos storage. Over the last 12 months there has been 1821 posts. The big difference is they culled a lot of un-needed stuff when they transitioned from Yahoo-Groups and aren't having a storage issue.

I can't remember but I think they made everyone sign up for a new account on groups.io rather than just transfer them over.

My recommendations are as follows:

1. Force all members to rejoin the group, this will get rid of 80-90% of people that no longer have an interest here, they can always rejoin later if they need to access information.

2. As recommended in another post, aggressively purge/re-size the files and photos areas. Having a quick look, there are photos in there that are 3.5 MB in size that would be fine at 150-200kb to understand the detail being presented. I downloaded the files and photos sections at the change over to groups.io from yahoo groups so if you accidentally delete something you feel should be up there I probably still have it and can add it back.

The group is a great resource of information, I'm happy to chip in $ to keep access to it, I would rather we cut back the additional fluff so the group can operate at the lowest cost though. May I also suggest consider getting a company to sponsor the group.io costs, Henry from Rong Fu Industrial may be interested in helping with this. Having a sponsor is no different than being blasted by advertising in "free" Facebook groups (which I advise against as they aren't suitable for the function of this group).

Thanks.
Steve (NZ)


 

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I’m happy to pay. I will leave the group if it moves to facebook.


 

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Well said animal!

On 12/18/2020 9:54 AM, mike allen wrote:

??? ??? friends don't let friends use Facebook

??? ??? animal

On 12/18/2020 6:43 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:


How about starting the group in Facebook??



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...>
Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?


 

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Bill
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X2 on the no Facebook idea. I don’t know enough about the computerie stuff to help, but I do enjoy the suggestions and technical advice and as stated before am more than willing to kick in if we decide to go to a paid group.
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Carl H SMSgt USAF (Ret)
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From: Bill in OKC too via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
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I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.
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Bill in OKC
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William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)


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On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:
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How about starting the group in Facebook?
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-------- Original message --------
From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@hotmailcom>
Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?
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Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?


 

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??? ??? friends don't let friends use Facebook

??? ??? animal

On 12/18/2020 6:43 AM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:

I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:


How about starting the group in Facebook??



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...>
Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?


 

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Some one said….“NO to Facebook. They're in the censoring business.“

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They are not in the “censoring business”, and nothing that would BELONG in this group is ever likely to be censored even if they were.

But I would also say no to “FB”, but because they are essentially useless, unless you are using their “APP”. {And perhaps if you are using it too.}

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I agree ?with Bill my wife bitches constantly about not finding something that she saw the day before on Facebook.?


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Bill in OKC too via groups.io" <wmrmeyers@...>
Date: 12/18/2020 8:43 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?


I do not and will not use Facebook.? Someone else will have to do that if it's how the group decides to go. I have been told by several people that the Facebook format is not good for a group like ours. It works better for current events and idle chitchat, but is difficult to find older info in. I don't know that from personal experience, however.

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)


A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)





On Friday, December 18, 2020, 08:21:24 AM CST, WHEELER GREEN <sparco505@...> wrote:


How about starting the group in Facebook??



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Zachary McAtee <zmmcatee@...>
Date: 12/18/20 8:59 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] What Should We Do About Group Storage?

Maybe google drive for photos and docs would be an option... linked, stickied, granted authority for anyone to alter/add/remove. 15g free I believe. I appreciate everyone here who is contributing and managing this group, it’s an excellent resource albeit for a very cheap machine that is owned generally by people who can’t afford a better one that wouldn’t need mods and alterations, myself included. If I have to pay on this group I likely won’t stay, it’s antithetical to the whole reason I joined to start. I needed a meta cutting bandsaw and couldn’t afford a more quality piece so I bought the hf version and immediately needed to make some mods which were all essentially time and labor. The way I see it, if you have the saw you’re likely able to fabricate on some level and almost certainly have the skills to figure out anything on this machine, it’s a very simple setup. All due respect of course, there is certainly a time saving aspect of following someone’s advise or mimicking a design but IMO it’s just simply not worth paying for. Thanks for everything you guys do and I hope everything works out in the best possible way for everyone.?


 

?No to Facebook as well. I’m on it and it’s definitely not a good platform.?