Ultimate Vice?

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Once I replace the gears on my Buffalo 4x6 bandsaw I need to build a Vice. For Horizontal cutting. I have a Clausing 8520 vertical mill, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe and a 7x12 mini Lathe so I "should" be

Ultimate Vice?

[email protected] #14380 Once I replace the gears on my Buffalo 4x6 bandsaw I need to build a Vice. For Horizontal cutting. I have a Clausing 8520 vertical mill, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe and a 7x12 mini Lathe so I "should" be able to make up any part needed. So what will it look like? I would love to see pictures of your vice, especially if you really like it. What do I need to avoid? Ralph
[email protected] #14383 Doesn't anyone have a vice they love?
David Frantz #14385 开云体育 Ice cream and Coke Zero. ? ?I need to get those under control.? Oh if you mean the 4X6 vise well that is a different story. ?So far? ive used only the supplied vise. ?However ive had plenty of occasion where a vise insert would have been ideal.? By vise insert i mean a block of steel with plenty of tapped holes for holding stock via toe clamps. ?The reality is few vise options solve the basic problem of thin stock and odd angles. ?You really want your clamping just millimeters from the blade. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Jan 12, 2018, at 11:45 AM, "rhulslander@... [4x6bandsaw]" <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote: ? Doesn't anyone have a vice they love?
Patrick Hayes All Messages By This Member #14386 I just finished fabricating a duplicate of Rick Sparber's vise jaws. See here: He has lots of other tips and suggestions for home/hobby shop work. Patrick Hayes Fremont CA
Larry Hoelscher All Messages By This Member #14387 A vice can be made from 4x4 1/4" angle iron will do for the vice parts.? If you go to youtube under 4x6 bandsaw modifications you find ideas for the bandsaw.? I did the one where you add a threaded rod on the left side of the jaws so that you could put stress on small parts.? Easy to do and adds great versatility to the saw's vice.? DBQ49er toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 9:36 PM, Patrick Hayes pehayes@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote: ? I just finished fabricating a duplicate of Rick Sparber's vise jaws. See here: He has lots of other tips and suggestions for home/hobby shop work. Patrick Hayes Fremont CA
Nobody Knows All Messages By This Member #14388 Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14389 开云体育 I make fixtures and things as I build things. For cutting angles, I built a fixture to hold the tubing. Be creative! ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14390 开云体育 Other things, are just temporary. 2” schd 40 pipe I needed to cut in half. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14391 开云体育 Combination cutting/milling/weld fixture for some nozzles I build often. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14392 开云体育 Fence wasn’t long enough. Trip to the hardware store for a piece of ?” 1018. Added a bolt to keep it from flexing so much. ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14393 开云体育 Small parts, I just clamp a small drill press vise in the saw vise. Not elegant, but quite functional. ? Just a few ideas…… ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won’t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw:
Alan Muller All Messages By This Member #14394 At 02:16 PM 1/13/2018 +0000, you wrote: ? Small parts, I just clamp a small drill press vise in the saw vise. What a sensible idea! BTW, I keep thinking that "ultimate vice" means something quite different than "ultimate vise." am Not elegant, but quite functional. ? Just a few ideas…… ? ? From: 4x6bandsaw@... [ mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 3:31 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Here are links to three work-holding and position modifications related to the vise.? The vise itself has not modified because it has never presented a problem to me.? I also have a bolt shortening jig made from a piece of thick angle with various sized threaded holes that can be clamped between the vise jaws (sorry, no picture right now).? ? 1.????? Fixture plate with threaded holes for parts that won?€?t fit well between the vise jaws.??????????? ? 2.????? 90 Degree stop for quick repeatable resets after angle cuts: ? 3.????? Parallels with a jack screw: Posted by: Bill Armstrong ? Reply to sender ? Reply to group ? ? (14) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage.
Nobody Knows All Messages By This Member #14395 Mr. Armstrong, I'm not able to see your pictures.? Are these in photobucket or some other 3rd party hosting website that requires a membership? I always like to see what other people are doing with these saws to improve accuracy and productivity. Thanks, J
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14396 开云体育 They are just attached to the email. I forwarded an email to your address, rather than the group. Let me know if that works. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:48 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: RE: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Mr. Armstrong, I'm not able to see your pictures.? Are these in photobucket or some other 3rd party hosting website that requires a membership? I always like to see what other people are doing with these saws to improve accuracy and productivity. Thanks, J
Nobody Knows All Messages By This Member #14397 Got it! Thank you!
Bill Armstrong All Messages By This Member #14398 开云体育 You’re welcome! ? I forwarded the others as well! ? Bill ? ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:04 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: RE: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? ? ? Got it! Thank you!
[email protected] #14399 Thanks everyone, got some good ideas. Ralph
dar1095 All Messages By This Member #14400 Ralph I have used a drillpress clamp to hold both small and large parts to be cut. see picts Doug -------------------------------------------- toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Sat, 1/13/18, rhulslander@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote: Subject: RE: [4x6bandsaw] Ultimate Vice? To: 4x6bandsaw@... Date: Saturday, January 13, 2018, 11:53 AM Thanks everyone, got some good ideas. Ralph
Larry Rudd All Messages By This Member #14401 The vice above by Mike Cox is just fantastic. Larry
[email protected] #14402 Bill?sent me his photos as I couldn't see them either. His ingenious jigs just reinforces the fact that if you can hold it - you can cut it! I don't believe there is an 'ultimate vice', just a vice set up well for the cut you want to make. Sure every vice needs some extender jaws, and a fixed jaw on the out-feed table helps,?but they don't need to be fancy to work. Here's a pic of a standard vice cutting an 1/8" (3mm) slit to make a slotted clamp, something most people use a milling machine with a slitting saw to do - there are?2 cuts less than?0.040" (1mm) apart. The extender jaws?are just 2"x3/8" black MS bar and extend right across the gap, something that Mike Cox's?beautifully designed and made ones can't do. Horses for courses.? - jv?

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