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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
开云体育??? ??? ya may think bout swapin that motor with a single
direction motor & put the directional motor on a piece of
equipment that could take advantage of the reverse option ??? ??? animal On 12/30/2018 11:29 AM, Darren McCarley
darren.mccarley@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection [1 Attachment]
Bill/Ralph, Yeah, more idler adjustment. Fun times. Main problem is that I think I'm out of adjustment on the idler. Need to play with it a lot more. The table should be easy enough to fan up. I have some old bed rails that are nearly worthless steel. (Very hard, multiple holes, etc) However, they were dumpster dives so I'll take em! :) Some cutting, a bit of welding, and then MAYBE I'll get lucky and find an old saw table to use as a miter table/guide. Or, perhaps some 16 guage aluminum and some rivets. (Would rather not use anything protruding from the table top.) Biggest down side I can see so far.... I have to straddle the saw. Not the worst thing and I'd rather not have to buy a dedicated vertical saw. Thanks Darren
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
开云体育The wheels are handy. I’d keep ‘em. Nice to be able to move the saw around, if for nothing else, to sweep under it, or when you rearrange the shop, or bring in new toys. ? Only makes sense for me to buy metals in full length pieces or sheets. I can buy steel from the local supplier, cheap, and the freight is literally pennies. Have to buy full pieces however, and pick it up a couple miles down the road since 18-wheelers won’t fit in here. No big deal. A 20’ piece costs less than buying a 6’ piece from online places when you add in the UPS costs. And….they deliver twice a week. Freight on the steel in the pic was $1.75. It’s actually a ‘fuel surcharge’ they divide up to all the customers on the drivers route. And besides….sometimes it’s just nice to work outdoors! ? Sounds like you need to adjust the angle of the idler wheel, to keep the blade on track. Minor tweak. I like that big table. I built a little one for my 5” x 6”….only 12” x 12”. Don’t use it often, so I haven’t thought about making a larger one. ? Bill ? From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 11:29 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection ? ? I thought about those, as well as using something like flex seal as just a rubber coating. (Multiple coats, as necessary.) However, as you've probably come to realize, I don't do the easy stuff. :) my wife says I'm hard headed. I prefer to think of myself as always looking for a challenge. Honestly, at this point, I'm just looking forward to using the saw and chuck the wheels, if I have too. My stock will be quite small, compared to 20" steel.? One big down side that I've come to realize is that the blade runs away from the drive wheel. Therefore not conducive for vertical use. However, the motor is reversible. I've tried it in reverse and the blade immediately runs off the drive wheel. Time to start tweaking it again so I can have a vertical saw. I believe this can be accomplished as I've found this homemade stand with the same model.? At what point do o consider the turd sufficiently polished? Thanks for the conversation, you help my thinking process and stir my imagination. Happy New Year! Darren On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 9:32 AM Bill Armstrong bill_1955@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@... wrote:
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
Ralph Hulslander
I like that table, a lot better than the one I have for my 7x12! Ralph On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM Darren McCarley darren.mccarley@... [4x6bandsaw] <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote:
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
Shoot, forgot the image of the saw in vertical mode. Darren
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
I thought about those, as well as using something like flex seal as just a rubber coating. (Multiple coats, as necessary.) However, as you've probably come to realize, I don't do the easy stuff. :) my wife says I'm hard headed. I prefer to think of myself as always looking for a challenge. Honestly, at this point, I'm just looking forward to using the saw and chuck the wheels, if I have too. My stock will be quite small, compared to 20" steel.? One big down side that I've come to realize is that the blade runs away from the drive wheel. Therefore not conducive for vertical use. However, the motor is reversible. I've tried it in reverse and the blade immediately runs off the drive wheel. Time to start tweaking it again so I can have a vertical saw. I believe this can be accomplished as I've found this homemade stand with the same model.? At what point do o consider the turd sufficiently polished? Thanks for the conversation, you help my thinking process and stir my imagination. Happy New Year! Darren
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
开云体育A couple of rubber feet work well, which is what my saw came with.
It has a slide out handle, so it can be moved around like a wheel barrow.
I use it out in front of my shop on the concrete often, as 20’ pieces of steel are difficult to maneuver inside.
Being level....is not at all required.
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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 7:19 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection ?
Thanks K. I was concerned about that as well. However, that's how I got it so I assumed it was factory installed. If it is a problem I'll either buy some locking casters, fab up some screw jacks, or just take off the left side wheels.
On Dec 30, 2018 3:55 AM, "khintegration@... [4x6bandsaw]" <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote:
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
Thanks K. I was concerned about that as well. However, that's how I got it so I assumed it was factory installed. If it is a problem I'll either buy some locking casters, fab up some screw jacks, or just take off the left side wheels. On Dec 30, 2018 3:55 AM, "khintegration@... [4x6bandsaw]" <4x6bandsaw@...> wrote:
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
That looks great, I am wondering how you will get on with it having two sets of wheels in contact with the ground whilst it is in use, I would be concerned that it would try making off across the garage if not in use but when loading stock. Let us all know how you find it after giving it a bit of use. |
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
Thanks J and Bill! ?Sorry if there were duplicate emails. I had to cut the pics down to just 2 because I kept getting a "too big" error.? Darren
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Re: OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection [2 Attachments]
开云体育Nice work Darren! That’s now a good looking saw, and it’s a US built tool. It will no doubt serve you well! Of all the tools in my shop, my band saw is used more than any. It’s almost always the place I have to start, to cut pieces of stock to build things. When you get your lathe, here’s a good project: A power down hydraulic cylinder for your saw. They make life easier when you cut small parts & pieces, and thin-wall tubing….you don’t have to control the down speed manually with one, which saves on not only terrorizing parts, but blades as well. ? Very Nice! Bill ? From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 4:12 PM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: [4x6bandsaw] OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection [2 Attachments] ? ? [Attachment(s) from Darren McCarley included below] ? Well, it's finally finished. Tha is to all of your help but special thanks to JV and Bill. With all of y'all's help it looks great, functions smoothly, and was a fun refurb. Time to find a new project. I will be getting an old Wade 8a lathe soon. Time to put the saw to work cutting some stock to use in the lathe. :) Note: I'll be finishing up a doc on the parts, pieces, and sources. Once completed,? I'll upload it here. Hopefully it helps someone in the future.? Cheers! Darren
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OT: Bainbridge 712 resurrection
Well, it's finally finished. Tha is to all of your help but special thanks to JV and Bill. With all of y'all's help it looks great, functions smoothly, and was a fun refurb. Time to find a new project. I will be getting an old Wade 8a lathe soon. Time to put the saw to work cutting some stock to use in the lathe. :)
Note: I'll be finishing up a doc on the parts, pieces, and sources. Once completed,? I'll upload it here. Hopefully it helps someone in the future.? Cheers! Darren |
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Re: Bainbridge blade guides
开云体育I’ve seen Tempilaq on Brownell’s, but I have never used any.
I do have some temp sticks, which work the same way. Smear on a dab or a line, and it will melt when you are up to temp. Great for preheating for welding, annealing, or heat treating. I assume the Tempilaq would work as well or
better. Lot more expensive, so I wuld hope it’s better! ;)
I’ve been using an infrared gun instead, for quite a few years.
It is true that different materials will read different temps when at the same temp. How shiny it is makes a big difference. So does paint. A polished stainless steel surface will read much lower than a piece of AR plate.
So....in some cases, the old contact thermocouple is best for accuracy.
Bill
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:59 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: Re: [4x6bandsaw] Re: Bainbridge blade guides ?
With regards,
Fred
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Re: Bainbridge blade guides
With regards, Fred |
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Re: Bainbridge blade guides
开云体育Charlie, ? I really don’t see you having any issue with the bearings you installed. Six years shows that to be true! I don’t see how 350F would alter a bearing metallurgy of a bearing. I’m just pointing out what the bearing nerds recommend, and that radical high temps are not necessary. Correct bearing fits, aside from plain bearings, are measured in tenths, (.0001”), so it doesn’t take much. ? ? Bill ? From: 4x6bandsaw@... [mailto:4x6bandsaw@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:21 AM To: 4x6bandsaw@... Subject: [4x6bandsaw] Re: Bainbridge blade guides ? ? Hello, Bill, ? I am certainly no bearing expert, so I defer to your expertise and experience. ? My goal was only to relate what I had done and what worked well for me.? As tapered roller bearings do not have shields, seals or internal lubrication, (at least, the ones I installed didn't), any overheating issues would manifest in a metallurgical issue.? Fortunately, this has not happened in the six or so years since their installation. ? Thanks, Charlie
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Re: Bainbridge blade guides
Hello, Bill,
I am certainly no bearing expert, so I defer to your expertise and experience. My goal was only to relate what I had done and what worked well for me.? As tapered roller bearings do not have shields, seals or internal lubrication, (at least, the ones I installed didn't), any overheating issues would manifest in a metallurgical issue.? Fortunately, this has not happened in the six or so years since their installation. Thanks, Charlie |
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Re: Sawblade.com
ken
开云体育Don't feel bad.? One time I had my chainsaw serviced by the dealer.? When I took it out to do some trimming, it was cutting horribly.? So bad that I commented to myself that it was bad enough that it might as well be cutting backward.? Yep!? Sure enough, the shop had installed the chain backward! If you rotate your bandsaw blade 180 degrees into the loop and
install it, it will be cutting backward.? Ken On 12/19/18 4:39 PM,
krs62@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:
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Re: Sawblade.com
开云体育?The cutting teeth need
to "lean forward into" the direction they are going in order to
cut properly. ?If the bandsaw blade
was flipped inside out and installed that way, the teeth will
end up leaning back / pointing away from direction of travel -
the opposite of the image above, pointing up instead of down -
and not cut worth a damn, as you found out the hard way.
On 12/19/2018 4:39 PM,
krs62@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:
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Re: Sawblade.com
开云体育On 12/19/2018 3:39 PM,
krs62@... [4x6bandsaw] wrote:
? ? Look at like the teeth are on the wrong side/edge of the
blade . Before you flipped it , the teeth would have to be on
the "top" of the blade to go the correct direction . You just
turned it over so they're on the bottom now . ? -- ? Snag |
