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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Stefan Arnold
This lens will be a great addition to someones outfit then based on your experience with uncoated jena sonnar will. ?I was given a contax 2 camera by my Dad at the same time as this lens. ?It seems it was manufactured in the same year as this lens 1939. ?I have decided to sell this lens to pay for the repair of the jammed shutter on the contax.?
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Regards? Stefan?
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThiele's book gives 2188102 as part of a batch of 3000 lenses
completed 13 December 1937.? I love the rendering of the old
uncoated sonnars on my Sony A7 On 8/5/2016 12:41 PM, Will Panich
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Will Panich
Dropped a digit looks like 1938. Nevertheless wonderful optic. Wil On Friday, August 5, 2016 12:41 PM, "Will Panich wilpanich@... [ZICG]" wrote:
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Greetings to All! I have a very similar 1.5 Jena Sonnar with a earlier serial number 2188102. I came upon it a few years ago on Ebay. Mine is definitely not "T" coated but it renders very beautifully wide open(i.e. dreamy) but quickly becomes very sharp but with a character that is quite unique at f2 and beyond. Wouldn't be without it. It has stops to F11. Am I to understand this lens was manufactured in 1913 based on the serial # chart? If so, truly remarkable lens. Best regards,Wil On Friday, August 5, 2016 5:39 AM, "Mark Matusiak mmatusiak@... [ZICG]"
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This lens is included in a batch of 3000 lenses completed 3 June
1939.? It does not appear to be coated, as judged from the photos,
lacking any sort of amber or other color highlights.? No "T"
markings either, but that alone is not dispositive.?
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Will Panich
Greetings to All! I have a very similar 1.5 Jena Sonnar with a earlier serial number 2188102. I came upon it a few years ago on Ebay. Mine is definitely not "T" coated but it renders very beautifully wide open(i.e. dreamy) but quickly becomes very sharp but with a character that is quite unique at f2 and beyond. Wouldn't be without it. It has stops to F11. Am I to understand this lens was manufactured in 1913 based on the serial # chart? If so, truly remarkable lens. Best regards,Wil On Friday, August 5, 2016 5:39 AM, "Mark Matusiak mmatusiak@... [ZICG]" wrote:
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This lens is included in a batch of 3000 lenses completed 3 June
1939.? It does not appear to be coated, as judged from the photos,
lacking any sort of amber or other color highlights.? No "T"
markings either, but that alone is not dispositive.?
On 8/4/2016 6:45 PM, Stefan Arnold
stefanfelixarnold@... [ZICG] wrote:
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe date comes from a publication called Frabikationsbuch
PhotooptikII, Carl Zeiss Jena by Hartmut Thiele.? Mr. Thiele
complied the data in the book from Zeiss factory records.? The
lens in question appears to be in standard Contax mount.? The rear
portion of the lens mount is probably black so as to minimize
reflective surfaces that could adversely affect lens performance-
this is standard feature on CZJ lenses of the period. On 8/5/2016 8:18 AM, Stefan Arnold
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Contaflex TLR: how to remove the Sucher/Finder lens?
The seller in the (old) auction shown below displays a Contaflex TLR from which the Sucher lens seems to have been easily removed. (see the last image) How is this achieved?
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Contaflex TLR: remove the finder (sucher) lens
The seller of the Contaflex TLR in the auction below seems to have removed the Sucher lens without problems (see last image). How is this done?
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Stefan Arnold
Wow.. That's amazing, to be able to be that specific with a date... 3 months before Ww2....is it a standard mount? What is the black metal??
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
According to the Carl Zeiss Jena serial number, the lens was made in 1939. ?Jena lenses usually were not coated until after WW2, but some were coated just before and during WW2. ?I have a Super Ikonta 533-16 BX with lens number 2623007 which would indicate it also was made in 1939, but the camera was assembled postwar as it has an asterisk after the body number although the lens IS coated. ?The lens you are inquiring about might have been factory coated or sent to the factory to be coated postwar. ? From: "Stefan Arnold stefanfelixarnold@... [ZICG]" <ZICG@...> To: yahoogroups Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 6:45 PM Subject: [ZICG] Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
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Hi... Could somebody help me date this lens correctly please. ?It's on eBay right now.? I found a link with dates but I'm not sure they are correct.?
?The serial number is 2552394 The link is? Look at this on eBay ? Hope someone could give me a bit more information. Is this lens coated?? Many thanks? S Arnold? |
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Maurice Greeson
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFrom the pictures it looks to be uncoated. Some lenses from that period were uncoated. ?The coated one were marked with a T.Maurice On Aug 4, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Stefan Arnold stefanfelixarnold@... [ZICG] <ZICG@...> wrote:
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Re: Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThis lens is included in a batch of 3000 lenses completed 3 June
1939.? It does not appear to be coated, as judged from the photos,
lacking any sort of amber or other color highlights.? No "T"
markings either, but that alone is not dispositive.? On 8/4/2016 6:45 PM, Stefan Arnold
stefanfelixarnold@... [ZICG] wrote:
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Zeiss jena sonnar nr2552394 contax fit.
Stefan Arnold
Hi... Could somebody help me date this lens correctly please. ?It's on eBay right now.?
I found a link with dates but I'm not sure they are correct.? ?The serial number is 2552394 The link is? Look at this on eBay ? Hope someone could give me a bit more information. Is this lens coated?? Many thanks? S Arnold? |
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.3.7
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes * = section updated --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: Zeiss Historica Society c/o Larry Gubas (President and Acting Secretary) 8240 Bradley Road Las Vegas NV 89131 USA John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA North American dues are $US 40 per year and include two issues of Zeiss Historica, the Society's journal, and an annual bonus, generally a reprint of a Zeiss publication. Dues for members outside North America are $US 50 per year. Credit card payments are welcome. For more information, see the three websites listed under MEMBER WEB PAGES. Either of the above two people can handle enquiries from interested parties. --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE The official ZICG web site is: It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It is a private web page, not a collectively produced one. Passwords are: CONTAPROX for the archives. PROXAR for the classifieds. Both in uppercase letters. WARNING: Thomas's web page has out of date subscription details, it still refers to the Coollist mailing list. That mailing list no longer exists. Please only ever refer to the Yahoo! web page for subscription information. Sometime in the future it would be great to develop a website made up of contributions from all members of ZICG. This may be something that could be developed through Yahoo's service or via a member with web space to donate. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG Discussion is for members Unmoderated Email attachments are not permitted Replies go to all members of the group Subject tag: [ZICG] Membership approved by list administrator Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Zeiss Historica Society Information (but not just about the ZHS): Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. |
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Re: Super Ikona A (531) serial numbers
Maurice Greeson
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Hans, ? Yes, there is an asterisk after the body number. (A 5 point star). ?So I believe it is one assembled from existing parts as you said. Thank you for the conformation. ?Cheers¡ MauriceOn Jul 31, 2016, at 4:07 AM, Hans de Groot hanszeiss@... [ZICG] <ZICG@...> wrote:
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Re: Super Ikona A (531) serial numbers
Hi Maurice, I suppose the bodynumber is O 97306. Question: is it followed by an * (asterisk)?? If so, one of the major assumptions here, at the ZICG, the camera is assembled using (also) parts from the existing inventory (being pre-war or wartime). ciao, Hans de Groot On Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:22 AM, "mckay3d@... [ZICG]" wrote:
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I recently acquired a nice Super Ikonta A.
Body Nr. 097306? Lens: Carl Zeiss Jena 7.5cm Tessar Nr. 3073288. The lens is coated and has a red T. From reading Charles Barringer's 2006 article in Zeiss Historica, I think this camera may be a post WWII camera made using some pre-war parts. Any comments will be appreciated. Maurice |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lensJena.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lensbn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lens.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/camerabn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/bodybn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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