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Introduction
Hello everybody, thank you so much to accept my request to be part of this very special and exclusive club. First of all, I'm a ZI collector, but not only, whatever is part of the Zeiss universe is part of my interests, speaking about all the trademarks before the merging and a little bit of what happen after the IIWW. Yes, I have to confess that there are 3 pets who share their lives whit my family: 2 cats, Pegasus and Min¨´, and 1 dog, Kira, so I would be happy to share with you my experience about them also. Told that, since my very first camera in 1976, a nice present by a family friend, a Polaroid, then I had the chance to choose my first 35mm camera which was a Yashica FR I, fantastic, affordable and well built camera, while the first camera which reached? my shelf was a Contina I, belonged to a relative, followed by a Bencini Comet III, belonged to my grandfather. At the time, Believe me or not, I never thought about starting a camera collection, but wow, 280 cameras after, i could say that finally I've got it!?? |
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Re: Different models of Ikonta 521?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI have a very early 521, SN F54327. Both VF and bellows are deployed by the single button on top. ? ? From:
ZICG@... [mailto:ZICG@...] ? ? I have two Ikonta 521s There are subtle differences between them: Serial # *90991N - The bellows/lens assembly extends with one button on top of the camera and the viewfinder pops up with a separate button on the side of the base of the viewfinder. Serial # N21239 - Both the bellows/lens assembly and the viewfinder are deployed with the same button on top of the camera. Can someone point me in the right direction to research this? I find it both odd and interesting. I assume (and we know how that can play out) that the second camera I listyed was manufactured later than the first, with that small efficiency added. |
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Re: User manuals
I¡¯d be very pleased to have both the Maximar and Trona manuals, either the originals, (I¡¯m in the UK) or scans, which you could send to me as email attachments at drbalfour1181@... <mailto:drbalfour1181@...> .
Regards, David Balfour From: ZICG@... <ZICG@...> Sent: 09 August 2019 22:26 To: ZICG@... Subject: [ZICG] Re: User manuals #2 should be, of course, Contaflex Super. Pardon my fat fingering. I have two instruction manuals for the Maximar and Trona cameras. If another member would like one of them, just reach out to me so we can figure out how to get it to you. |
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Re: Different models of Ikonta 521?
Hello there, B2 (or BII) is the old German designation for 120 type film. That is just a notice which film type to use in the camera. See also : Best regards, Hans
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User manuals
I have a couple of instruction manuals - all in English - that I would be willing to scan and post if there is any interest... 1 - The PRO-TESSARS for the CONTAFLEX III, IV, rapid and super 2 - Contyaflex Super 3- Maximar and Trona Cameras I also have a little booklet : Contaflex Pocket Companion by Joseph D. Cooper. Somewhere I have manuals for the Ikoblitz 4 and the Ikophot. They're playing hide and seek right now, and winning. |
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Different models of Ikonta 521?
I have two Ikonta 521s There are subtle differences between them: Serial # *90991N - The bellows/lens assembly extends with one button on top of the camera and the viewfinder pops up with a separate button on the side of the base of the viewfinder. Serial # N21239 - Both the bellows/lens assembly and the viewfinder are deployed with the same button on top of the camera. Can someone point me in the right direction to research this? I find it both odd and interesting. I assume (and we know how that can play out) that the second camera I listyed was manufactured later than the first, with that small efficiency added. |
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.4.0
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: The Zeiss Historica Society has disbanded. For any inquiries about this, try contacting: John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA More about the disbanded Zeiss Historica Society: --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE There is no external website for ZICG. Everything is contained within the Yahoo group page (). Many files have been shared (see the "Files" section) and the email archive is fully searchable. An official ZICG web site used to exist at . It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It was a private web page, not a collectively produced one, which disappeared with the end of Geocities. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG - Discussion is for members - Unmoderated - Email attachments are not permitted - Replies go to all members of the group - Subject tag: [ZICG] - Membership approved by list administrator - Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. zicg-owner@... |
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Re: 533/16 shutter operation
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks ¨C at least one of them is working now¡Ted ? From: ZICG@... [mailto:ZICG@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 8:01 AM To: ZICG@... Subject: Re: [ZICG] 533/16 shutter operation ? ? Ted, ? ? ? It seems I remember there is a trick to get the shutter on a 533/16 to work properly using the release ¡®button¡¯ on the body. I have 2 old ones that I am putting on EBAY and both can be tripped by flipping the release lever on the lens housing, but the release buttons on the body are not working. Anyone know the trick? (or do I have 2 cameras with bad linkages?) ? |
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Re: 533/16 shutter operation
Ted, You need to use the camera as though it had a film in it. Open the back and nclosemit. Then advance the "film" and set the counter to "!". Cock the shutter and release with the body release. Continue by advancing the "film", cocking the shutter and firing the body release until you reach the end of "exposure" 11 where you have to change "films". Bill On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 7:57:31 PM EDT, 'Ted and Melody' ted@... [ZICG] wrote: ? It seems I remember there is a trick to get the shutter on a 533/16 to work properly using the release ¡®button¡¯ on the body. I have 2 old ones that I am putting on EBAY and both can be tripped by flipping the release lever on the lens housing, but the release buttons on the body are not working. Anyone know the trick? (or do I have 2 cameras with bad linkages?) ? |
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533/16 shutter operation
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt seems I remember there is a trick to get the shutter on a 533/16 to work properly using the release ¡®button¡¯ on the body. I have 2 old ones that I am putting on EBAY and both can be tripped by flipping the release lever on the lens housing, but the release buttons on the body are not working. Anyone know the trick? (or do I have 2 cameras with bad linkages?) ? |
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.4.0
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: The Zeiss Historica Society has disbanded. For any inquiries about this, try contacting: John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA More about the disbanded Zeiss Historica Society: --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE There is no external website for ZICG. Everything is contained within the Yahoo group page (). Many files have been shared (see the "Files" section) and the email archive is fully searchable. An official ZICG web site used to exist at . It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It was a private web page, not a collectively produced one, which disappeared with the end of Geocities. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG - Discussion is for members - Unmoderated - Email attachments are not permitted - Replies go to all members of the group - Subject tag: [ZICG] - Membership approved by list administrator - Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. zicg-owner@... |
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Re: IKOFLEX with 5 digit serial number
At 05:23 PM 6/3/2019, you wrote:
? Serial numbers early in a run often have shorter serial numbers that do the later ones. Marc |
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IKOFLEX with 5 digit serial number
I am interested in purchasing an IKOFLEX. The seller did not post a model number. It has a 75mm 3.5 OPTON/TESSAR T. What is puzzling is that the lens serial number has only 5 digits 21499. Does anyone know what the model number is and what year produced? Also is the OPTON T appreciably better than my un coated TESSAR 75mm 3.5 on? IKOFLEX ll/lll? |
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.4.0
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: The Zeiss Historica Society has disbanded. For any inquiries about this, try contacting: John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA More about the disbanded Zeiss Historica Society: --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE There is no external website for ZICG. Everything is contained within the Yahoo group page (). Many files have been shared (see the "Files" section) and the email archive is fully searchable. An official ZICG web site used to exist at . It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It was a private web page, not a collectively produced one, which disappeared with the end of Geocities. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG - Discussion is for members - Unmoderated - Email attachments are not permitted - Replies go to all members of the group - Subject tag: [ZICG] - Membership approved by list administrator - Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. zicg-owner@... |
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