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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.4.0
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: The Zeiss Historica Society has disbanded. For any inquiries about this, try contacting: John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA More about the disbanded Zeiss Historica Society: --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE There is no external website for ZICG. Everything is contained within the Yahoo group page (). Many files have been shared (see the "Files" section) and the email archive is fully searchable. An official ZICG web site used to exist at . It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It was a private web page, not a collectively produced one, which disappeared with the end of Geocities. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG - Discussion is for members - Unmoderated - Email attachments are not permitted - Replies go to all members of the group - Subject tag: [ZICG] - Membership approved by list administrator - Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. zicg-owner@... |
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Re: ZEISS IKON Ideal 111: Help
Matt, glad to help. K0MOS DE KM6JE 73
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(We are both ham radio operators.) Thanks Leigh, appreciate all the info... |
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Re: CLA for Super Ikonta B
Jurgen Kreckel at? jurgenk@....? He operates Certo6.com cleaning and selling Zeiss folding cameras.? Don W. King On Friday, July 7, 2017 7:57 PM, "eli_griggs@... [ZICG]" wrote:
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I'm not current on this topic, but who is doing good CLA's on Super Ikontas; I have a 6x6 B, that needs the treatment and the partially disassembled range-finder, put back correctly. |
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Re: ZEISS IKON Ideal 111: Help
Matt, I was wrong about the Zeiss Ideal holders I saw yesterday on eBay:
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they are actually 9x12cm. Pacific Rim Camera has a lot of German plate camera gear, but the only Ideal 6.5x9cm holder listed is for a film pack adapter missing a dark slide. (But cheap at $15.) I've read of others improvising film sheaths, but never have tried myself. My 9x12cm film sheaths are made of light gauge sheet metal and have bent edges that hold the film in place. You might ask on the APUG plate camera forum--there are several people there more knowledgeable than myself. Compur shutters are great, and are often found in usable condition many decades after their manufacture. In my experience, if the slow speeds don't stick open, USUALLY the marked mid-range speeds are accurate enough for B&W film. The B and T settings do not require you to cock the shutter. --Leigh. Leigh, thank you for taking the time to educate me. You are correct about |
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Re: ZEISS IKON Ideal 111: Help
Leigh, thank you for taking the time to educate me. You are correct about the film size (it is 6.5x9) and the "pop off" mechanism. I found 6.5x9cm sheet film online (in Germany). Still have to find the glass plate holders you mentioned on Ebay, can't hurt to get some. Am I correct that the purpose of film sheaths is to 'replace' the glass plate? Filling the space between the film and the back of the holder to support the sheet film? That could be easily manufactured with some sort of plastic sheet? I also have to figure out how accurate the Compur shutter mechanism still is to see whether the camera can still be used. Regarding the glass... yesterday I took the camera outside (bright day) and it was not so bad after all. If I can't figure out how to remove the glass it would not be a show stopper. Thanks again for your insights. Matt |
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Re: ZEISS IKON Ideal 111: Help
Hi, your Zeiss Ideal 111 is actually a 6.5x9cm film size. It uses a
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somewhat uncommon series of holders also used on the Zeiss Juwel--they "pop off" rather than slide off, unlike most other German plate cameras. I do not know if a 120 rollfilm holder was ever made for this camera. eBay currently shows a listing for several glass plate holders for the Ideal 111, but 6.5x9cm sheet film is quite limited, and you will also need film sheaths to hold it in the glass plate holders. I think 6.5x9cm sheet film is still available in Germany, but not the US, as far as I know. (Freestyle used to carry it.) You may also find 6.5x9cm film pack holders on the used market. Film packs are no longer available, but others have repurposed the film pack holders as ground glass holders. (It MIGHT be possible to adapt one of the more common 120 rollfilm holders to a film pack holder; I don't know for sure if this is practical.) Sorry I can't help with the ground glass problem. --Leigh. PS: I like using these old cameras, and most are still fairly inexpensive. I'd suggest instead looking for a 6.5x9cm Kodak/Nagel Recomar, Voigtlander Avus or Ica/Zeiss Maximar they , as all use the same fairly common holders, including for 120 rollfilm. All three were also available in 9x12cm size, and 120 rollfilm holders are also fairly common for the larger size. These older 120 rollfilm holders don't have the best film support, so results may not be quite as good as a more modern rollfilm camera I just got two older cameras from my father in law. One is a ZEISS IKON |
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ZEISS IKON Ideal 111: Help
I just got two older cameras from my father in law. One is a?ZEISS IKON Ideal 111 (6x9) and the other one I still have to figure out. The Zeiss is in pretty good shape and looks like it was hardly used... the other one not so much :( I would like to get the Zeiss into a state where I can go out and take some pictures.? Looking at the ground-glass it has some residue and/or artifacts (see link with picture below). I am considering cleaning or replacing it. It seems that by taking off the little screws (on the right side of the picture) the glass should slide out... but it doesn't. I am looking for any help/advice on how to proceed. Also looking for advice on obtaining a 120 Roll Film Back for this camera (what make/model will fit, good sources (except EBay etc.) Thanks in advance Matt ? Picture:? ? |
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.4.0
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: The Zeiss Historica Society has disbanded. For any inquiries about this, try contacting: John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA More about the disbanded Zeiss Historica Society: --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE There is no external website for ZICG. Everything is contained within the Yahoo group page (). Many files have been shared (see the "Files" section) and the email archive is fully searchable. An official ZICG web site used to exist at . It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It was a private web page, not a collectively produced one, which disappeared with the end of Geocities. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG - Discussion is for members - Unmoderated - Email attachments are not permitted - Replies go to all members of the group - Subject tag: [ZICG] - Membership approved by list administrator - Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. zicg-owner@... |
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Contax I outfit
I recently joined this group hoping to get some feedback on the Contax I outfit i just acquired.
It includes a 1934 Contax I body, 28mm Tessar, f1.5 and f2 50mm Sonnar lenses, 85mm Sonnar, 135 Sonnar and 300mm Tele Tessar K, plus all appropriate viewfinders, lens shades, filters, and film cannisters in plastic cases. In addition it includes a ground glass back with numerous plate holders and Contameter close up set. All in a fitted case of the period. Is this a unique set or are there more known? I believe the only missing piece is the diopter holder. This fits onto the accessory shoe and holds tiny corrective lenses in front of the viewfinder. Please help me find this!! Any feedback or comments are welcome. Lee Laney |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lensJena.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lensbn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/lens.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/camerabn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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New file uploaded to ZICG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ZICG group. File : /holoceen/bodybn.pdf Uploaded by : hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> Description : You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, hanszeiss <hanszeiss@...> |
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Re: File - zicg-info.txt
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe information about Zeiss Historica Society is outdated. ?The Society is in process of disbanding. ?There was a very recent communication that there will be no further Society activities or publications.Contact Treasurer John Scott (listed herein) for further info. ?President Gubas is ill. Ed Christiansen ??
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File - zicg-info.txt
Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). List Information, version 2.3.7
Kia ora ZICG members, This message will be posted every month to keep you informed about the Zeiss Ikon Collectors Group (ZICG). It will also be available anytime on the YahooGroups website . It contains important details about the mailing list and is sent to new subscribers. --- CONTENTS: - About Yahoogroups - Posting to ZICG - (Un)Subscribing - Points of Reference - Official ZICG Web Page - Mail settings for ZICG - Member Web Pages - Other Mailing Lists - End Notes * = section updated --- ABOUT Yahoogroups Yahoogroups is a free mailing list service. You can set your own email distribution list by going to or see information about the ZICG mailing list at If you are a member of Yahoo AND you are a member of ZICG, you can view the archive of emails online as well as change your personal settings (such as digest mode etc). You may also view the subscription list. ZICG used to be listed with Coollist. Poor reliability and even poorer customer service saw ZICG move in May 2000 to eGroups. William Lurie organised with nine other members to keep ZICG ad-free and paid eGroups a fee to drop all advertisements from emails. ZICG became ad-free from November 5, 2000. EGroups became a possession of Yahoo in December, 2000. Hence ZICG became a Yahoo group. --- POSTING TO ZICG The ZICG list was set up for people who want to discuss anything Zeiss. ZICG is a collection of Zeiss authorities and enthusiasts brought together through the medium of email to share knowledge as friends. Anybody can be a member and nobody has ever been banned. You cannot send attachments. If you want to share a file, put it on a website and post the URL to the list. Remember that .vcf files (vcards) are classified as attachments. As a member, you can upload photos and files to the ZICG archives with Yahoo and then send notification to the list. Please do not post HTML or specially formatted messages to the list. If you can, turn off these options on your email program. Some ZICG members cannot read your message if you send it in those formats. Sale or Wanted adverts are acceptable on ZICG. All adverts must be about Zeiss equipment. You can post them at any time as a dealer or collector. Please do not abuse this policy, regulations will be set if members become dissatisfied with excessive sale/wanted adverts from the same individuals. It is acceptable to send an auction URL as long as it maintains a relevance to discussion on ZICG. --- (UN)SUBSCRIBING To subscribe, visit or email ZICG-subscribe@.... Once you have done this you will be emailed a message to the address you subscribed with. Follow the instructions in the email and your end of the enrolment process will be completed. To unsubscribe send a blank message to: ZICG-unsubscribe@... or visit or (if you have difficulty) email <ZICG-owner@...>. To post to ZICG, email your message to <zicg@...> There are other commands available on this listserver. You must register with Yahoo before you can make use of them and then visit . When you register, you must use the email address that you are subscribed to ZICG with. --- POINTS OF REFERENCE Marc James Small has made available to ZICG List members an extremely detailed and up-to-date bibliography of Zeiss, Leica and Rollei literature. It is available by visiting: Zeiss Historica Society c/o Larry Gubas (President and Acting Secretary) 8240 Bradley Road Las Vegas NV 89131 USA John Scott (Treasurer, Editor) <john.t.scott@...> 4507 Mountain Path Drive Austin TX 78759 USA North American dues are $US 40 per year and include two issues of Zeiss Historica, the Society's journal, and an annual bonus, generally a reprint of a Zeiss publication. Dues for members outside North America are $US 50 per year. Credit card payments are welcome. For more information, see the three websites listed under MEMBER WEB PAGES. Either of the above two people can handle enquiries from interested parties. --- OFFICIAL ZICG WEB PAGE The official ZICG web site is: It was created by Thomas Myro. It is well out of date but has some archives from 1997 on it. Nobody has used the classified section for some time now. It is a private web page, not a collectively produced one. Passwords are: CONTAPROX for the archives. PROXAR for the classifieds. Both in uppercase letters. WARNING: Thomas's web page has out of date subscription details, it still refers to the Coollist mailing list. That mailing list no longer exists. Please only ever refer to the Yahoo! web page for subscription information. Sometime in the future it would be great to develop a website made up of contributions from all members of ZICG. This may be something that could be developed through Yahoo's service or via a member with web space to donate. --- MAIL SETTINGS FOR ZICG Discussion is for members Unmoderated Email attachments are not permitted Replies go to all members of the group Subject tag: [ZICG] Membership approved by list administrator Language of automated messages: English --- MEMBER WEB PAGES The following is a list of web pages on Zeiss Ikon as created by ZICG members. If you would like your site to appear here please email me and I will add it. John A. Lind: There is a large variety of information here including Zeiss Ikon Contax, Rollei-35, Mamiya M645 and Olympus OM: Stephen Gandy's CameraQuest: Zeiss Historica Society Information (but not just about the ZHS): Do you have a website about Zeiss? Send me the address! --- OTHER RELATED MAILING LISTS To subscribe to the Rollei List: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe rollei or: subscribe rollei-digest To subscribe to the Leica Users Group: send to: <majordomo@...> no subject in the body of the message, type: subscribe leica-users or, subscribe leica-users-digest For information about the Internet Directory of Camera Collectors (IDCC) then email <idcc-request@...> with the word "help" in the subject line. To subscribe to the Subminiature Photography Mailing List email <listserv@...> and type SUBSCRIBE SUBMINI-L followed by your real name - the "subject" is ignored --- END NOTES Any questions, do not hesitate to ask. Help build this FAQ by giving me feedback over this edition, or items to add to it. Hei konei ra, Michael Moffatt. |
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quote sought for book
This message is for Simon Worsley
Dear Simon: My book on the Tenax is almost ready to go to the printer. Since you have read the manuscript, would it be possible to grant me a one line quote on the book that I might use on the back cover? Anything positive that you might write would be appreciated. Thank you. Sorry, I lost your personal e-mail address in a computer crash. Sincerely, WES LODER Please reply to my university address: MWL2@... |