I'm tempted by the portability and cute appearance of the Ikonta A and its relatives, and from what I've seen on the web they're capable of taking excellent photos. But compared with the 6 x 6 format, and given the larger number of photos to a roll, I'm wondering if it would not work out fairly expensive in the long run. I would want to make digital scans of the photos. I have a 3-in-one scanner, but that can't scan negatives larger than 35mm, so I would need to have physical photos to scan. I'm thinking that the photos on the contact sheet would perhaps be too small scanned that way (at 1800 dpi or 3600 interpolated) and I'd need to get enlargements, which would be far more expensive than the contact sheet - whereas 6 x 6 photos might be large enough for decent scan results?. So I'm wondering what folks who shoot 4.5 x 6 photos and digitize them do.

-Keith

Oops, I see it's actually a Nettar 515/2, this one in fact:

I've given it a quick look over and it seems to be in reasonable working order. Only a couple of issues I can see so far.

The bellows are a bit saggy but I can't find any leaks (in a dark room with a keyfob light). What can I use to restore their stiffness? Is the 'Vintage camera bellows restoring renovating fluid' on ebay any good?

The mechanical link between the shutter button on the body and the release on the lens has disappeared. All that's there is the rod and spring directly connected to the shutter button. Obviously I can just use the lens shutter release, but has anyone found a simple solution to restore the functionality of the shutter button?

-Keith

I'm a freelance translator from England living in the Netherlands and have decided to get back into film photography. Sometimes this digital stuff is just too easy! And I remember how much I used to enjoy the brainwork and 'playing with a mechanical toy' aspect of manual photography. I've become fascinated by the old 120 folding cameras, some of them are so cute, and from what I've seen on the web they can shoot fantastic pictures.

In the pre-digital era I used to take slides and got superb results with a series of 35mm cameras including a Rollei 35B/B35, a Zenit and a Praktica SLR. I used to keep part-exchanging cameras for something 'better'.

My new-to-me Ikonta 520/2 has just arrived and I'm looking forward to shooting small numbers of 6x9 photos. I have a couple of questions about it, so will put those in a separate post.

-Keith

What's that a telescope:)) Really impressive, I would like to see some photos made with that lens.

Thanks, I am afraid that I'm getting addicted to CZJ Sonnar lenses, especially 5cm f1.5:))

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Timur, nice start to a collection.?? I am of the opinion that the 268 lens is probably post-WW2 production.? I have a lens with a close serial number, and it has a mix of brass and aluminum alloy components.? Also my lens had hand-scratched markings on the internal lens barrel that are not typically seen in earlier CZJ lenses.

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Numbers taken from Hartmut Thiele's book

1890641 part of batch of 200 lenses completed June 27, 1936

2253743, part of batch of 428 lenses completed December 21, 1937

2684906, no records available (beleg fehlt)

2394132, part of batch of 2000 lenses completed November 21, 1938

2859561, part of a batch of 5000 lenses completed December 4, 1945

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