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Ron,

I don't see Joseph Yates in your attachment. I found him by browsing
the full one-name tree, but stopped there.

I saw the SAR application there. I had run into it earlier today in
working on Joseph's tree. The information is sketchy, and one cannot
depend on accuracy. Many SAR lineages have notes attached that they
have to be proven to be accepted, even though they did accept them
at one time. I just went to sar.org and looked. Well, I was a registrar
for a local chapter for 2 years, and they keep hiding things under
secret shells, and then moving the shells around constantly. I couldn't
even see where to type in the patriot number any more. Perhaps they
took it completely off line. They want to be as unhelpful as they
can. I actually stopped paying dues and have nothing to do with them
any more over a submission I made for a friend, which was REJECTED,
(my 15th after 14 successful!) after another chapter member was granted
a supplemental to that patriot only months before! My friend was
out $150 for what was a "sure thing" only months earlier. Very
poor judgment!

Anyway, I just went over to DAR.org, which is much better, was much more
accurate, at least in the past, and reliably the same so you can
find things easily. I found our Joseph Yates immediately.

A trick I learned is that when you get to a list of apps that you
can purchase, just click on one as if you are going to purchase it,
and then a link will appear "lineage". Click on it and you will
see the lineage. They do that so you aren't surprised should you
purchase it. And then you can back out and not continue with the
purchase.

Attached are some results I just got for Joseph Yates. It has his DAR
number A129441. Clicking on his number gives a list of lineages
accepted for him. And then I clicked on one of the lineages and
screen captured the lineage given for it. I see there is a NARA
roll number which proves his service. I'll have a look in Fold3
if I remember.

John

On 4/16/23 5:12 PM, Ron Yates wrote:

Leigh will we along shortly to help us get on the right track, her
records seem to maintain that there was a marriage but understand the
conflict.? We need to confirm that Leigh was able to acquire the records
created by “Joseph Yates And Some Of His Descendants” By A. S. Salley,
Jr. ??They were in the Adlai Robin Yates collection at Clemson.? If she
did not get them, I will to determine if we can harvest any details.

For now, as a guidepost, we know there is a DNA connection between the
Yates lines:


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Seven of Leigh’s Yates DNA matches appear to descend from
Tattersall-Wells-Warfield-Guiney-Tapp in this list just below:

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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
*On Behalf Of *John H. Yates
*Sent:* Sunday, April 16, 2023 4:28 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* john.yates@...
*Subject:* Re: [yates-one-name-study] Joseph Yates, a ship’s carpenter,
b. 1750, who married Sarah Atmar

Ron,

Joseph Yates' lineage from hints seems to stop at a possible father
also a Joseph Yates. And attached is a note from just a few days ago
that John Rogers doesn't belong in the picture. (I've put him in and
taken him out a couple of times (just for "completeness"). I think
I'll keep him out, for now anyway!).

I think DNA is our only way forward. Your autosomal results indicate
the line is related to us (if I understand your messages correctly).
If the Y-DNA can be traced down to living males, I wonder if their
Y-DNA will match ours? (Not sure if that has been done, but I think
not). Does Leigh know of any living Yates males who could Y-DNA test?

John

On 4/16/23 3:01 PM, Ron Yates wrote:

Leigh, John Yates and I are very interested in this person's older
lineage.? Any suggestions would be appreciated...? Ron