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Jaya,? I'm just trying to catch up with the trajectory of this situation.? I'm up to speed about the roll out, thanks to everyone's posts.?
There are some things that I don't understand b/c I know so little about the design and function of websites like these.?
How are the designers impacted?? Why are they interested in building their own sites so they will no longer have to rely on Rav?? Is there something about the Rav's configuration that is not compatible with the designers uploading and delivering their patterns?
A few years ago, KnitCompanion decided that in order to build the capacity necessary to make big improvements to the app (voice controls and an host of other wonderful changes), they would need to build a subscription based platform.? Their roll out was well and patiently handled, yet there was a huge uproar among knitters who simply did-not-want-change and we all know how hysterical they can get. So many of them were in sack cloth and ashes, writing hysterical posts before they took the time to learn the facts. Sally and her team were endlessly patient, answered endless angry questions with restraint, explaining why the change was inevitable and necessary, and let Legacy owners continue to use the old app as long as possible (it still works, but the new one is also so much better) to quell the anger.? The KC team eventually prevailed and KnitCompanion now has a much more stable and brighter future for the company and the knitters who use it.? It's an example of managing a big platform change well.
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Diane, They are monitoring how many use the old vs new and I've gone back to the old despite having only dislike for the new because there are so many people having issues with the new. I feel it is something I can do to support them.
btw, designers are trying to find ways to get off Ravelry for these reasons. Romi is looking to build her own site and there have been posts on IG asking for people who can build websites. Many designers seem to have seen a drop off in their sales. I can't comment on those because I am not a follower of them except for Romi.
I was curious, too, so thanks from me, too.? I thought it might be something like that.? I initially didn't like the "new" Rav, but with the tweaks they've made, it's growing on me.? Sounds like they're trying to be accomodating (now) - hope it all settles down.?
Diane
Thanks Amy, that helps. Yes, I read Jess's letter, that's why I asked. Haven't seen Rosemary's posts on IG, I'll go look...I guess.?
Surely people had problems with the old design as well? I have no idea how you could do a redesign without offending somebody. Which is not to say they handled it well.
--Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Amy Brotslaw Schweiger < brotslaw@...> wrote: The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out.? After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
Amy
Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Just wondering. --Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
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The issues people had were not minor, if you believe them. I believe there were some who had serious issues and many people?who had eyestrain. The issues were severe migraines and potentially seizures (I heard of one) from the blinding whiteness due to expanse of white space and heavy black contrast,
The entire redesign was mishandled as a software project, with insufficient beta testing, and a very small invested focus group to approve it. The rollout was mishandled, coming during a pandemic when people were already stressed. The staff was invested in the new design and has and continues to respond badly. Not rolling back the new design till problems were fixed, locking and archiving threads where people expressed their issues and problems, and posting a very upbeat intro post that was planned ahead fo time and tone-deaf coming after the issues surfaved.
Cassidy having mental health problems sounds like a good reason for all this to happen. She was calling the shots and was probably the most invested in the new design, except for the UX designer (who I don't think actually has the qualifications to do UX design because the process followed was not how UX design is meant to work. I think she worked on UX design projects based my reading between the lines on her website).
Thanks Amy, that helps. Yes, I read Jess's letter, that's why I asked. Haven't seen Rosemary's posts on IG, I'll go look...I guess.?
Surely people had problems with the old design as well? I have no idea how you could do a redesign without offending somebody. Which is not to say they handled it well.
--Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Amy Brotslaw Schweiger < brotslaw@...> wrote: The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out.? After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
Amy
Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Just wondering. --Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
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I'm planning to make it tomorrow!? (Should have enough blueberries by then!)
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:12 PM, Connie@... <connie@...> wrote: I was just thinking about making that blueberry cobbler! ? On Jul 31, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Amy Brotslaw Schweiger <brotslaw@...> wrote:
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Alas I think all of what Melisande said is true - as we keep saying at work, it’s a “yes, and” situation. Which makes it even harder to fix. ?
On a happier note, Therese, I just made your mom’s cobbler for the umpty-millionth time. This time I had it all put together before the oven had finished heating up!
Amy On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Melisande R. Wolf via groups.io <melisanderwolf@...> wrote:
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As far as I can tell from my sporadic wading into the fray, the new site design violated a lot of accessibility guidelines that are pretty well accepted for web design, including some that things that have been documented based on how the human eye and brain process information.? ? A lot of the unhappiness I’ve been reading and hearing about isn’t so much that there were problems with the new site (though the fact that it was not adequately tested and the one person I know of who was a beta tester raised some of the same issues that have since been raised and was ignored, though that’s a sample size of 1) but with the initial responses and subsequent attitude about the problems people have reported having.? Telling people that they’re lying or making things up is not a good way to handle it.? ? I expect that there is an element of mass hysteria.? On the other hand, even the Classic Rav (which is a skin of some kind) is not as friendly to my eyes and migraine problems as the old site.? Every design is likely to cause problems from some people, but the sheer number of people I personally know on Rav expressing the same kinds of concerns make it feel to me as though the problem is a lot more widespread than one might expect or find workable.? ? The letter posted by Jess felt like a non-apology apology to me, and either blaming or excusing Cassidy’s behavior as mental health issues is not the same as apologizing for what has happened. ? I don’t see a good replacement for the communities of people that I belong to on Rav, but I’m pretty unhappy with the current situation. ? Melisande ? ? The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out. ?After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.? My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it. Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place. Amy
? Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
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I was just thinking about making that blueberry cobbler! ?
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Amy Brotslaw Schweiger <brotslaw@...> wrote:
? Alas I think all of what Melisande said is true - as we keep saying at work, it’s a “yes, and” situation. Which makes it even harder to fix. ?
On a happier note, Therese, I just made your mom’s cobbler for the umpty-millionth time. This time I had it all put together before the oven had finished heating up!
Amy On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Melisande R. Wolf via groups.io <melisanderwolf@...> wrote:
? As far as I can tell from my sporadic wading into the fray, the new site design violated a lot of accessibility guidelines that are pretty well accepted for web design, including some that things that have been documented based on how the human eye and brain process information.? ? A lot of the unhappiness I’ve been reading and hearing about isn’t so much that there were problems with the new site (though the fact that it was not adequately tested and the one person I know of who was a beta tester raised some of the same issues that have since been raised and was ignored, though that’s a sample size of 1) but with the initial responses and subsequent attitude about the problems people have reported having.? Telling people that they’re lying or making things up is not a good way to handle it.? ? I expect that there is an element of mass hysteria.? On the other hand, even the Classic Rav (which is a skin of some kind) is not as friendly to my eyes and migraine problems as the old site.? Every design is likely to cause problems from some people, but the sheer number of people I personally know on Rav expressing the same kinds of concerns make it feel to me as though the problem is a lot more widespread than one might expect or find workable.? ? The letter posted by Jess felt like a non-apology apology to me, and either blaming or excusing Cassidy’s behavior as mental health issues is not the same as apologizing for what has happened. ? I don’t see a good replacement for the communities of people that I belong to on Rav, but I’m pretty unhappy with the current situation. ? Melisande ? ? The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out. ?After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.? My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it. Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place. Amy
? Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
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??? Good Lord
I honestly don’t see Ravelry lasting much longer—unless it’s sold. ?
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Therese Shere <therese.shere@...> wrote:
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Alas I think all of what Melisande said is true - as we keep saying at work, it’s a “yes, and” situation. Which makes it even harder to fix. ?
On a happier note, Therese, I just made your mom’s cobbler for the umpty-millionth time. This time I had it all put together before the oven had finished heating up!
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Melisande R. Wolf via groups.io <melisanderwolf@...> wrote:
? As far as I can tell from my sporadic wading into the fray, the new site design violated a lot of accessibility guidelines that are pretty well accepted for web design, including some that things that have been documented based on how the human eye and brain process information.? ? A lot of the unhappiness I’ve been reading and hearing about isn’t so much that there were problems with the new site (though the fact that it was not adequately tested and the one person I know of who was a beta tester raised some of the same issues that have since been raised and was ignored, though that’s a sample size of 1) but with the initial responses and subsequent attitude about the problems people have reported having.? Telling people that they’re lying or making things up is not a good way to handle it.? ? I expect that there is an element of mass hysteria.? On the other hand, even the Classic Rav (which is a skin of some kind) is not as friendly to my eyes and migraine problems as the old site.? Every design is likely to cause problems from some people, but the sheer number of people I personally know on Rav expressing the same kinds of concerns make it feel to me as though the problem is a lot more widespread than one might expect or find workable.? ? The letter posted by Jess felt like a non-apology apology to me, and either blaming or excusing Cassidy’s behavior as mental health issues is not the same as apologizing for what has happened. ? I don’t see a good replacement for the communities of people that I belong to on Rav, but I’m pretty unhappy with the current situation. ? Melisande ? ? The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out. ?After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.? My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it. Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place. Amy
? Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Thérèse Shere
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As far as I can tell from my sporadic wading into the fray, the new site design violated a lot of accessibility guidelines that are pretty well accepted for web design, including some that things that have been documented based on how the human eye and brain process information.? ? A lot of the unhappiness I’ve been reading and hearing about isn’t so much that there were problems with the new site (though the fact that it was not adequately tested and the one person I know of who was a beta tester raised some of the same issues that have since been raised and was ignored, though that’s a sample size of 1) but with the initial responses and subsequent attitude about the problems people have reported having.? Telling people that they’re lying or making things up is not a good way to handle it.? ? I expect that there is an element of mass hysteria.? On the other hand, even the Classic Rav (which is a skin of some kind) is not as friendly to my eyes and migraine problems as the old site.? Every design is likely to cause problems from some people, but the sheer number of people I personally know on Rav expressing the same kinds of concerns make it feel to me as though the problem is a lot more widespread than one might expect or find workable.? ? The letter posted by Jess felt like a non-apology apology to me, and either blaming or excusing Cassidy’s behavior as mental health issues is not the same as apologizing for what has happened. ? I don’t see a good replacement for the communities of people that I belong to on Rav, but I’m pretty unhappy with the current situation. ? Melisande ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Amy Brotslaw Schweiger Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 5:56 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yarnmongers] Latest Ravelry kerfuffle ? The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out. ?After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.? My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it. Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place. Amy
? Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
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Amy’s synopsis sounds about right from my arm chair.?
Ravelry definitely did not do the redesign with accessibility as a key priority. My work just went through a big web project and we need to follow provincial requirements and meant we needed to hire a firm that knew the design rules. Most aren’t complicated but you have to start from the beginning. It’s very difficult to retrofit.?
My impression is that Ravelry messed up and then didn’t know how to fix it but also didn’t really want to. That lead to the bad stuff in their responses to criticism, ?which is disappointing given their ?commitments to equity.?
I suspect the old site had issues and they certainly don’t enforce accessibility standards for pattern PDFs. But these new issues seem to baked into the design including the font and background.?
That letter was something. It’s rough to screw up something and then not know how to fix it. I can’t say if it’s a mental health issue. It is a PR mess though.?
I can use the site and don’t want to wade into it...
Steph?
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Therese Shere <therese.shere@...> wrote:
? Thanks Amy, that helps. Yes, I read Jess's letter, that's why I asked. Haven't seen Rosemary's posts on IG, I'll go look...I guess.?
Surely people had problems with the old design as well? I have no idea how you could do a redesign without offending somebody. Which is not to say they handled it well.
--Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Amy Brotslaw Schweiger < brotslaw@...> wrote: The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out.? After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
Amy
Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Just wondering. --Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
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I was curious, too, so thanks from me, too.? I thought it might be something like that.? I initially didn't like the "new" Rav, but with the tweaks they've made, it's growing on me.? Sounds like they're trying to be accomodating (now) - hope it all settles down.?
Diane
On Friday, July 31, 2020, 3:08:40 PM PDT, Therese Shere <therese.shere@...> wrote:
Thanks Amy, that helps. Yes, I read Jess's letter, that's why I asked. Haven't seen Rosemary's posts on IG, I'll go look...I guess.?
Surely people had problems with the old design as well? I have no idea how you could do a redesign without offending somebody. Which is not to say they handled it well.
--Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Amy Brotslaw Schweiger < brotslaw@...> wrote: The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out.? After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
Amy
Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Just wondering. --Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
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Thanks Amy, that helps. Yes, I read Jess's letter, that's why I asked. Haven't seen Rosemary's posts on IG, I'll go look...I guess.?
Surely people had problems with the old design as well? I have no idea how you could do a redesign without offending somebody. Which is not to say they handled it well.
--Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM Amy Brotslaw Schweiger < brotslaw@...> wrote: The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out.? After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
Amy
Is any of you following this latest Ravelry mess closely? So that you can explain it to me in a sentence or two??
Just wondering. --Therese Thérèse Shere
Freelance indexing & digital information design
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The redesign - which, as I recall, none of us really cared for - has caused issues for some users - reports are of seizures, migraines, eye strain. Cassidy did not respond in a way that in inspired confidence in those having problems - indeed, she responded in a way that made disability activists feel that they had an ableist bias and were highly insensitive. It turns out the site was not properly beta tested, and concerns were dismissed. Cassidy sent some highly inflammatory emails to people calling her out. ?After weeks of radio silence, Jessica responded with an apology and the news that Cassidy would no longer be in touch with Ravellers.?
My take: there are people having issues, and probably a bit of mass hysteria. Cassidy mishandled the redesign. Reading between the lines, it sure sounds like she’s having mental health issues. I can’t imagine writing the kind of letter Jess wrote - about your spouse. It’s on the front page of Revelry, if you haven’t seen it.
Our old friend Romi has many posts about this on her instagram account. There’s lots of social media chatter all over the place.
Clear as mud??
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So thankful we found a good guy this year. We have a challenging property to mow. ?45° hillside for our front yard. ? He’s willing to do whatever we want. ?Did all of our landscape cleanup and mulching, too.? With Darryls bad knees and him breaking a couple toes this spring, he’s been a god-send. ?
Hope your fellow doesnt go down with heat!
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We told our guy not to come every week when it is so hot and dry. The grass needs to be longer to not burn up. He now comes every other week. But yes. Our guy also comes late morning in the heat.? On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ann McManus < mcmanusab@...> wrote: So, it’s probably being recorded as the hottest day so far in 2020. ? Our lawn guy (who is close to our age) showed up at 11 this morning. Okay, nothing out of the ordinary. Depending on weather we get mowed Fri, Sat, Sun, most weeks. He started weed whacking. And he whacked everything to within an inch of its life, including the 2 bank/slope areas that he usually mows. Then he moved next door (he does hers also, usually on the same schedule). Finally, he ran the mower on both lawns. Hottest. Day. This Year. He just left (2:45). Mark and I figure that his wife (who usually splits the jobs with him) refused to go out in this heat. (Like we care. If he gets to it eventually and we don’t have to do it ourselves. . .) ? So, to spite her, and nearly kill himself. I have no words. ? Was going to check with the lawyer son, but felt he’d probably just say “drag the body into the neighbor’s yard and call 911.” ? Ann in PA ?
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On Jul 19, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Jaya Srikrishnan <ermabom@...> wrote:
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We told our guy not to come every week when it is so hot and dry. The grass needs to be longer to not burn up. He now comes every other week. But yes. Our guy also comes late morning in the heat.? On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ann McManus < mcmanusab@...> wrote: So, it’s probably being recorded as the hottest day so far in 2020. ? Our lawn guy (who is close to our age) showed up at 11 this morning. Okay, nothing out of the ordinary. Depending on weather we get mowed Fri, Sat, Sun, most weeks. He started weed whacking. And he whacked everything to within an inch of its life, including the 2 bank/slope areas that he usually mows. Then he moved next door (he does hers also, usually on the same schedule). Finally, he ran the mower on both lawns. Hottest. Day. This Year. He just left (2:45). Mark and I figure that his wife (who usually splits the jobs with him) refused to go out in this heat. (Like we care. If he gets to it eventually and we don’t have to do it ourselves. . .) ? So, to spite her, and nearly kill himself. I have no words. ? Was going to check with the lawyer son, but felt he’d probably just say “drag the body into the neighbor’s yard and call 911.” ? Ann in PA ?
-- Jaya
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Don't even bother dragging the body ... especially in this heat!
As an independent?contractor, it really doesn't matter where he hits the ground ...
erica the Lazy Realist?
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 11:48 AM Ann McManus < mcmanusab@...> wrote: So, it’s probably being recorded as the hottest day so far in 2020. ? Our lawn guy (who is close to our age) showed up at 11 this morning. Okay, nothing out of the ordinary. Depending on weather we get mowed Fri, Sat, Sun, most weeks. He started weed whacking. And he whacked everything to within an inch of its life, including the 2 bank/slope areas that he usually mows. Then he moved next door (he does hers also, usually on the same schedule). Finally, he ran the mower on both lawns. Hottest. Day. This Year. He just left (2:45). Mark and I figure that his wife (who usually splits the jobs with him) refused to go out in this heat. (Like we care. If he gets to it eventually and we don’t have to do it ourselves. . .) ? So, to spite her, and nearly kill himself. I have no words. ? Was going to check with the lawyer son, but felt he’d probably just say “drag the body into the neighbor’s yard and call 911.” ? Ann in PA ?
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We told our guy not to come every week when it is so hot and dry. The grass needs to be longer to not burn up. He now comes every other week. But yes. Our guy also comes late morning in the heat.?
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ann McManus < mcmanusab@...> wrote: So, it’s probably being recorded as the hottest day so far in 2020. ? Our lawn guy (who is close to our age) showed up at 11 this morning. Okay, nothing out of the ordinary. Depending on weather we get mowed Fri, Sat, Sun, most weeks. He started weed whacking. And he whacked everything to within an inch of its life, including the 2 bank/slope areas that he usually mows. Then he moved next door (he does hers also, usually on the same schedule). Finally, he ran the mower on both lawns. Hottest. Day. This Year. He just left (2:45). Mark and I figure that his wife (who usually splits the jobs with him) refused to go out in this heat. (Like we care. If he gets to it eventually and we don’t have to do it ourselves. . .) ? So, to spite her, and nearly kill himself. I have no words. ? Was going to check with the lawyer son, but felt he’d probably just say “drag the body into the neighbor’s yard and call 911.” ? Ann in PA ?
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So, it’s probably being recorded as the hottest day so far in 2020. ? Our lawn guy (who is close to our age) showed up at 11 this morning. Okay, nothing out of the ordinary. Depending on weather we get mowed Fri, Sat, Sun, most weeks. He started weed whacking. And he whacked everything to within an inch of its life, including the 2 bank/slope areas that he usually mows. Then he moved next door (he does hers also, usually on the same schedule). Finally, he ran the mower on both lawns. Hottest. Day. This Year. He just left (2:45). Mark and I figure that his wife (who usually splits the jobs with him) refused to go out in this heat. (Like we care. If he gets to it eventually and we don’t have to do it ourselves. . .) ? So, to spite her, and nearly kill himself. I have no words. ? Was going to check with the lawyer son, but felt he’d probably just say “drag the body into the neighbor’s yard and call 911.” ? Ann in PA ?
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A wealth of books flowing from the Monger Literary Well.
Thank you so much for all of the input and recommendations.?
Mary.
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erica