I'm guilty of not paying attention to the issue of running YAAC on a M1 Mac. Can it be done? If so, what do I download and how do I install it?

It should be doable. Any build of YAAC since #169 (#175 is current) has a version of the JSSE library that includes both Intel and ARM CPU versions of the Mac OS X native code. So, as long as you have a suitable Java runtime installed on your Mac M1, you should be able to download the YAAC.zip file, unzip it in a suitable folder, and click on the YAAC.jar file within the installation folder and have YAAC up and running with serial port support for your TNCs.

Let us know if you have any difficulties.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Keith Kaiser <wa0tjt@...>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 12:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] New M1 Mac and not paying attention

I'm guilty of not paying attention to the issue of running YAAC on a M1 Mac. Can it be done? If so, what do I download and how do I install it?

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I apparently have a “suitable Java runtime” installed because downloading and installing the latest version worked perfectly. I have YAAC 1.0-beta175 on both my older intel Mac and now on my M1 Mac, the menu system looks different. But I'm going to push that off as my imagination.

Andrew,

thank you for showing how to install YAAC on an M1MAC. ?I have it running and showing data from my FTM-400. I also have a USB GPS plugged into my Mac but there its putting me in the wrong location. ?I check the GPS data and its correct but there seems to be an offset. ?I am running?Version 1.0 (1.8.0_341) on the Mac and I hope I can find a way to debug why there is an offset on my position. ?

Thank you,
Tim KM4ESU

Andrew,

I did check the GPS from the FTM-400 that shows the correct location and the GPS data YAAC is showing they basically match. I do not know why it shows my shack in a different location. ?

Also in the Yaesu data can you get GPS location and I will remove the other GPS. ?

thank you,
Tim KM4ESU

Well,

1. What is the fixed station location configured in your beacon? Per chance, is it where your station is displayed?
2. Is your beacon configured to actually _use_ the GPS information to override the fixed location in the beacon configuration? If not, the GPS data will be ignored when generating your station's location. It doesn't matter that you can't _send_ a YAAC beacon through a Yaesu APRS-capable radio; it still controls how your location is determined by YAAC.

Re: eliminating the 2nd GPS: Sorry. Unlike the Kenwood radios, the Yaesu radio does not feed its connected GPS data through interleaved with received APRS traffic. So YAAC has no way of knowing what GPS information is fed directly into the Yaesu radio. If you are using an RS232/DB9 connected GPS, might I suggest an RS232 splitter, so one GPS can feed both the radio and the computer? Something like this, perhaps?



Alternatively, I can look into adding a port for _exporting_ GPS from YAAC in NMEA-0183 serial format, so you wouldn't need a clunky hookup like that (but would need to have a second USB-to-RS232 adapter on your computer to feed the GPS data out to the radio). Not sure if that is a useful enough configuration option (especially with the cost of either a second RS232-USB adapter or getting a dual one in the first place), but let me know.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 12:03 PM

Andrew,

I did check the GPS from the FTM-400 that shows the correct location and the GPS data YAAC is showing they basically match. I do not know why it shows my shack in a different location.

Also in the Yaesu data can you get GPS location and I will remove the other GPS.

thank you,
Tim KM4ESU

Hi Andrew,

I have a USB GPS plugged into the Mac and YAAC sees the GPS and shows basically the same coordinates as the FTM-400 shows. When I beacon from the FTM-400 it puts out the correct location. ?I see the GPS running and look at its data its correct but my location is still off. This is what is confusing me. ?If the radio show a similar location as the USB GPS so why is the station so far off?

I do what to debug this so any suggestion would help. Note the GPS is a serial GPS from the USB port.?

Tim KM4ESU

Hi James,

I am using two different GPS. ?1 is the GPS location of my station and yes its KM4ESU-10. ?my second GPS 2 is a USB GPS input to my Mac and it is on a different USB to Serial line. ?Yes the GPS is having locking issue due to the monitor next to it and the GPS for the Mac has a clear view of the sky.?

Tim?
KM4ESU

Andrew,

Interesting development. I went back to the configure by wizard and the GPS. ?I turned off the GPS and used the exact coordinates showing in GPS and now it showing the correct location. I wonder why I get such a different with the same data. ?

If you can point to something to resolve this please let me know. ?

Tim?
KM4ESU

Hi James,

I am sorry but I think I confused you on what is going on. ?The radio is a Yaesu FTM-400 that has a built in GPS. ?So it know its position and does not know YAAC is running. ?It also does not share its position with YAAC only APRS objects etc it receives.?

YAAC wants to know were your station is located so I have a USB GPS plugging into my M1 Mac and in the /dev list I can see the gps USB to serial listed. When I run the wizard I added the GPS and then the FTM-400 USB to serial data for the radio. ?All were working but the GPS showed me about 40mi from ware I am located. ?I am in Huntsville and it showed my station close to Ft Payne. ?This was the offset. ?To get the station location to the correct location I turn off the GPS and inputted the GPS coordinates that the GPS showed from the GPS status drop down. Now my station is in the correct location. ?

The problem is why with the exact same location for the station I get two drastically different results. ?One used the GPS and the second uses the same GPS the data. ?

Tim
KM4ESU?

Now that's really strange. Can you privately send me the AX25xmit, AX25rcvd and GPS logs (and the YAAC.out file) from your system for a day when you are using the GPS as an automatic position source? Also export your configuration to XML and send me the XML file, too. I have never seen this before, so if some bug got introduced into the software, I want it fixed ASAP. Note you may have to turn on logging received APRS traffic and the GPS data, as those may not be enabled by default.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] New M1 Mac and not paying attention

Hi James,

I am sorry but I think I confused you on what is going on. The radio is a Yaesu FTM-400 that has a built in GPS. So it know its position and does not know YAAC is running. It also does not share its position with YAAC only APRS objects etc it receives.

YAAC wants to know were your station is located so I have a USB GPS plugging into my M1 Mac and in the /dev list I can see the gps USB to serial listed. When I run the wizard I added the GPS and then the FTM-400 USB to serial data for the radio. All were working but the GPS showed me about 40mi from ware I am located. I am in Huntsville and it showed my station close to Ft Payne. This was the offset. To get the station location to the correct location I turn off the GPS and inputted the GPS coordinates that the GPS showed from the GPS status drop down. Now my station is in the correct location.

The problem is why with the exact same location for the station I get two drastically different results. One used the GPS and the second uses the same GPS the data.

Tim
KM4ESU

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From: James Ewen

A wandering GPS will usually wander around the neighborhood. For a
consistent 40 mile error, something else is probably happening.
There’s something that needs to be fixed. But I still am wondering how
far your house moves on a regular basis.

Reminds me of the early days of consumer GPS in the 1990's, when they still scrambled
the fine resolution of the position. I remember being parked in a friend's driveway,
and seeing my reported position moving in a circle about a mile in radius. Equipment
was a Delorme TripMate (which, alas, doesn't work any more because it couldn't
handle the GPS 1024-week rollover).

Why not just input a fixed location into your equipment?

Maybe he's living the RV lifestyle in a motorhome? :-)

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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HI Andrew,